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DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd)
Posted by Gold_12th on Sat Dec 20 14:50:59 2014 edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The latest stop for the two agencies tasked with implementing Bus Rapid Transit in communities across the five boroughs was Borough Hall on Tuesday morning, where city Department of Transportation and New York City Transit Authority officials presented the possible plans for BRT along the Cross Bay Boulevard-Woodhaven Boulevard Corridor. Addressing the Borough Cabinet, Eric Beaton, DOT director of Transit Development, and Robert Thompson, manager of Long-Range Bus Planning at NYCTA, detailed the concept of BRT and how it might work along this specific swath of Queens. Bus Rapid Transit, known in the Big Apple as Select Bus Service, is a cost-effective approach to transit service that cities use to make riding the bus more like a subway. BRT improves speed, reliability, and passenger comfort and convenience. The first SBS route was launched in the city in 2008, and a total of seven routes now serve commuters in Manhattan, Brooklyn, the Bronx and Staten Island. The Cross Bay-Woodhaven line, which would be based on the existing Q52/53 bus routes, would be the first of its kind in Queens. Current conditions reveal the reasons why elected officials, including City Councilmen Eric Ulrich (R-Ozone Park) and Donovan Richards (D-Far Rockaway), and civic leaders have been pushing for DOT and MTA to bring SBS to the congested thoroughfares. Buses travel in mixed traffic, while bus stops lack amenities; there is a long pedestrian crossing distance with no refuge across a wide roadway that encourages speeding; both boulevards feature a varying amount of traffic lanes that lack organization; and complex road design and changing service-road patterns make them difficult to navigate. The agencies have been presenting three proposals or “concepts,” and are asking the civic organizations to vote on them. Concept 1: Offset Bus Lanes would feature bus lanes one lane from the curb; SBS Bus Bulb Station; curbside local bus stops; a median pedestrian refuge; pedestrian neckdowns; three general lanes in each direction; curbside parking and delivery space; and service roads would be for local access and buses only. Concept 2: Main Road Bus Lanes would feature curbside bus lanes in the main road; an SBS station on expanded medians; local bus stops on expanded medians; median refuges; calm service roads; two thru-traffic lanes in each direction; one local traffic lane and parking in each direction; and shorter pedestrian crossings. Concept 3: Median Bus Lanes would feature median bus lanes; passing bus lane at station; median SBS station; median local bus stops; center median at non-stations; pedestrian neckdowns at selected locations; three traffic lanes in each direction; a parking lane; rush-hour parking restrictions at select locations; and left-turn bays at non-stations. For more information, maps and illustrations, visit nyc.gov/brt http://theforumnewsgroup.com/2014/12/06/dot-mta-continue-to-engage-communities-on-bus-rapid-transit-plans/
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Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd)
Posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 20 16:22:25 2014, in response to DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd), posted by Gold_12th on Sat Dec 20 14:50:59 2014. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Death knell for Rockaway Branch rail.
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Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd)
Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Sat Dec 20 19:36:46 2014, in response to DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd), posted by Gold_12th on Sat Dec 20 14:50:59 2014. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Here's a better idea... Instead of discussing "proposals" and "concepts," they should just announce whatever it is that they already decided before the process even began.
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Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd)
Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Dec 20 22:08:54 2014, in response to DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd), posted by Gold_12th on Sat Dec 20 14:50:59 2014. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Notice that you can't vote for Option 4 - No Select Bus Service. That is because they decided before the study began, there would be Select Bus Service. All three options have problems. Option 1 would seriously delay emergency vehicles because buses would have nowhere to move to get out of the way of emergency vehicles and if sidewalks are extended at bus stops, they would not be able to get around stopped buses. Option 2 woud be disastrous for car and truck traffic, cutting capacity by 50% from four lanes to two with a third lane for local traffic which may mean right turns only. Option 3 would result in people running across traffic lanes to catch buses in the center of the roadway increasing the accident potential. Also, where was the publicity for this meeting before it occurred? On the buses only? What if you don 't ridete buses? Doesn't your opinion count also?
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Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd)
Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Dec 21 12:08:13 2014, in response to Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd), posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Dec 20 22:08:54 2014. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Also, where was the publicity for this meeting before it occurred? Where are Borough Service Cabinet meetings normally advertised?
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Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd)
Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Dec 21 12:12:30 2014, in response to Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd), posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 20 16:22:25 2014. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Death knell for Rockaway Branch rail. Not at all. It could even help the case for Rockaway Beach rail by showing there is latent demand for improved north-south service. The difference is that Select Bus Service can be done within a year and for millions of dollars, while rail, even if the project started tomorrow, would be a decade away and cost billions of dollars. The need for improved transit is there now.
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Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd)
Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 21 12:31:54 2014, in response to Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Dec 21 12:12:30 2014. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d pwn3d
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Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd)
Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 21 12:32:33 2014, in response to Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Dec 21 12:12:30 2014. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d But does bus service really improve ? Are the pokey SBS crosstown routes in Manhattan any faster ?
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Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd)
Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Dec 21 14:39:07 2014, in response to Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Dec 21 12:08:13 2014. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Didn't realize at first this was only for civic organizations. Still it makes no sense that you can only vote for oe of the options, not rejection of all. So it really doesn't matter what the community wants. They must accept one. What study decides the conclusions before it begins and why is no data released regarding expected savings and inconveniences so the communities can decide if this is what they want?
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Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd)
Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 22 00:42:39 2014, in response to Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd), posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Dec 21 14:39:07 2014. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Didn't realize at first this was only for civic organizations. LOL!
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Re: DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd)
Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Mon Dec 22 14:03:11 2014, in response to DOT, MTA Continue to Engage Communities on Bus Rapid Transit Plans (Woodhaven Blvd), posted by Gold_12th on Sat Dec 20 14:50:59 2014. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The Cross Bay-Woodhaven line, which would be based on the existing Q52/53 bus routes, would be the first of its kind in Queens. Incorrect - - a portion of the M60SBS+ runs in Queens.
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