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E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by Gold_12th on Thu Nov 20 15:41:26 2014

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Nov 20 17:33:30 2014, in response to E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Nov 20 15:41:26 2014.

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PANYNJ tolls are the same for either state right?

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by Joe V on Thu Nov 20 18:29:28 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Nov 20 17:33:30 2014.

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As far as the MTA is concerned, an E-Z Pass tag not administered than from the SI Service Center is no better than cash. That's what we get for disallowing a buck a month service charge.

Mine is registered from the NY Thruway Authority, and still has the Peace Bridge Authority sticker on it. So somebody that also has one from Buffalo or Ontario is granted MTA's discount, but not a poor schmuck from Hudson County, NJ with a NJ Turnpike tag.


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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Nov 21 07:23:51 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by Joe V on Thu Nov 20 18:29:28 2014.

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The poor schmuck can get the correct tag to get the discounts he wants.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by fset on Fri Nov 21 09:59:41 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Nov 21 07:23:51 2014.

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How do we switch tags? And, if I drive I-95, (the NJ Turnpike, Delaware Turnpike, MD, etc) to DC, which tag is best for a New Yorker?

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Nov 21 12:39:05 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by fset on Fri Nov 21 09:59:41 2014.

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How do we switch tags?
Step 1: Cancel your current E-ZPass account. Step 2 depends on which tag you want to get. If you want a tag from the NY Service Center, then you can go to one of their customer service centers and request the exact tag that you want. You can also buy one of the prepackages tags. If you need more info about how to do either of these things, let me know.

And, if I drive I-95, (the NJ Turnpike, Delaware Turnpike, MD, etc) to DC, which tag is best for a New Yorker?
It depends on which discounts you'd benefit the most from. You could also have multiple tags if that is worth the hassle for you.

I'm most familiar with the Off-Peak NJ Turnpike Passenger Discount (available only to NJ E-ZPass Program Customers) and the TBTA/MTA B&T E-ZPass discount (E-ZPass rates apply only to customer tags issued by New York E-ZPass Customer Service Center [This includes: MTA Bridges and Tunnels, Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, New York State Thruway Authority, the Buffalo and Fort Erie Public Bridge Authority {Peace Bridge}, and New York State Bridge Authority]). I'm not familier with any other possible tag-specific discounts.

Since I use TBTA facilities more than the NJTP, I have a TBTA tag.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 21 20:13:37 2014, in response to E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Nov 20 15:41:26 2014.

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The video tells you to buy two EZ passes, but doesn't tell you the NJ one costs $12 a year.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 22 07:29:11 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Nov 21 20:13:37 2014.

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Ridiculous turf battle.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by Joe on Sat Nov 22 14:46:18 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 22 07:29:11 2014.

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Maybe the New York AAA has been the most persistent voice against this crazy situation. The discounts should be earned in all states by all EZ pass owners. All citizens are equal. I cannot stand this preference for one's own locals. We live in a nation, not in pockets of distinction.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Nov 22 14:55:50 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by Joe on Sat Nov 22 14:46:18 2014.

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I don't know. I don't live in Staten Island, but I think Staten Islanders should get a break on the tolls to/from Brooklyn as they do. I also think Rockaway residents should get a break on the tolls for their two bridges, and I don't live there either.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 22 16:43:45 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Nov 22 14:55:50 2014.

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The reason for the EZ Pass discount according to the MTA is traffic mitigation. But they don't regard an EZ-Pass from Illinois-DOT, or anywhere else, as far as that goes.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by pd11604 on Sat Nov 22 19:01:34 2014, in response to E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Nov 20 15:41:26 2014.

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When EZ Pass was first introduced there was a discount when used instead of cash no matter where you lived or where you used it.
Now that they have roped enough people in to the system they change everything around and confuse everyone with in state, out of state, peak time, etc.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 19:04:35 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by pd11604 on Sat Nov 22 19:01:34 2014.

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It's all about "user fees" now that taxes are being eliminated.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by Cornell Park on Sat Nov 22 23:50:16 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Nov 22 14:55:50 2014.

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Crossbay bridge should be free. It is the only bridge that goes to the same county in NYC with a toll. If they eliminated the toll however, they might loose money at the Marine Park bridge. Personally, I would rather ride through Rockaway then take the Belt Parkway.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 23 09:04:52 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by Cornell Park on Sat Nov 22 23:50:16 2014.

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You're right. But no way MTA will give up the revenue.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Nov 23 09:38:32 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by Cornell Park on Sat Nov 22 23:50:16 2014.

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In terms of aesthetics, I too would occasionally use the two bridges instead of driving from Exits 17 to 11 on the Belt. Of course the tolls and added gas expenditure mean that I would do that extremely rarely.

The Whitestone and the Throgs Neck Bridges have to match their tolls in order to avoid having unequal loads on those bridges. But remember, people still go with the Queens Midtown Tunnel even though it is a major toll while the nearby Queensborough Bridge is free.

On the Rockaway Peninsula, however, traffic is usually not that big a problem (summer weekends perhaps excepted) that as many people will pay tolls to avoid traffic. With a free crossing to Broad Channel, it will definitely take away some traffic from the Marine Parkway Bridge, but it would still get lightly used. The point is, however, that you eliminate income from the Broad Channel crossing and you lose more income on the remaining toll crossing. A "double whammy."

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 23 13:32:06 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Nov 21 12:39:05 2014.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 24 14:51:59 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by Cornell Park on Sat Nov 22 23:50:16 2014.

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The toll that should be eliminated is the Atlantic Beach Bridge. It's also one county (although not in NYC), the agency which operates it exists solely to operate the bridge and much of the tolls are used for the sole purpose of keeping the Nassau County Bridge Authority alive. On top of everything, they do not take E-ZPass, making it annoyingly inconvenient to use. It is the only toll bridge on cultural/political Long Island.

The only people who want it are the people of Atlantic Beach, who can pretend they live in a gated community with it. If I had to use that bridge, I'd pay with a bag full of pennies.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 24 17:22:52 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Nov 22 14:55:50 2014.

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I do not see why someone who lives is Staten Island and works in Brooklyn should get such a hefty break while someone who lives in Brooklyn and works in Staten Island has to pay full price.

I avevheard of commuter discounts, but those are for someone who makes five trips a week. A commuter is not someone who makes three trips a week. Utterly ridiculous why a Staten Island resident making three trips a month pays less than 50% while a regular commuter from Brooklyn making five trips a week pays a full EZ pass price.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 25 08:25:18 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Nov 24 17:22:52 2014.

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I do not see why someone who lives is Staten Island and works in Brooklyn should get such a hefty break while someone who lives in Brooklyn and works in Staten Island has to pay full price.

EZ Pass users who live in Brooklyn (assuming they have a New York EZ Pass) don't pay full price. They just get less of a discount than Staten Island residents.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by pragmatist on Tue Nov 25 08:52:47 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Nov 25 08:25:18 2014.

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It has nothing to do with fairness or equity, it has everything to do with politicians sucking up to SI residents for votes. The tolls collected on the bridges and tunnels are way higher than the monies spent on those facilities for o&m and debt service. The excess goes to help support the buses and subways of which SI has the least.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Nov 25 10:20:52 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by pragmatist on Tue Nov 25 08:52:47 2014.

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Interesting, so while it may not be enough of a justification, there is a faint sound of fairness, as the extra discount for Staten Island residents is made up for in that they benefit less from public transportation services.

But then there is the question: does Staten Island really benefit less from public transit services? In terms of MTA (the operator of the bridge) services alone, probably. But then there is that free Staten Island Ferry (DOT). Hmm.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by pragmatist on Tue Nov 25 10:31:52 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Nov 25 10:20:52 2014.

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2 different buckets, but both replenished at the same trough. (our wallets)


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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 25 12:08:00 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by pragmatist on Tue Nov 25 08:52:47 2014.

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But Brooklyn residents who work on SI have about as bad options for mass transit. With the exception of the Battery and Midtown Tunnels, the bridges that subsidize the MTA are the ones with the least available mass transit alternatives. It would be fairer if they implemented the congestion charge and lowered or abolished tolls on "peripheral" bridges.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Nov 25 14:31:35 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 25 12:08:00 2014.

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I agree. But the congestion charge need not be exuberant. The equivalent of the major tolls of today across all CBD crossings, and the equivalent of the minor tolls of today across the "periphery" would be ideal. I would not be in favor of the 5a.m. to 11a.m. extra-charge idea. The "punishment" of sitting in traffic is enough.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by randyo on Tue Nov 25 19:02:13 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Nov 25 10:20:52 2014.

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AFAIK, about the only reason that the ferry is free is that Metrocard programmers weren’t able to come up with a card that can allow multiple transfers for passengers who have to use the Subway, the ferry and either the SIR or a SI bus. Metrocards only allow one transfer per swipe.

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Nov 25 21:43:47 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by randyo on Tue Nov 25 19:02:13 2014.

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Double transfers exist elsewhere in the system, and they have even been instituted temporarily (e.g. for the Rockaways after Sandy).

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Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines

Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 26 13:10:27 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Nov 25 21:43:47 2014.

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True, but the problem is a time limitation on the transfers that starts to run don with the first swipe of the card which is 2 hours. Lets ay a late nigh passenger enters the system at T/Sq swipes the cars and just misses a train. 20 min has already been lost in addition to the actual travel time from midtown to So/Fy.. Now that same passenger gets to So/Fy an for whatever reason just misses a boat which coast another hour (or even 30 min since I believe the ferry service has been increased). Take an almost 30 min travel time on the ferry and if that passenger happens to miss a bus connection in SI, the allowed transfer time on the card will have been eaten u[. Of course even with the free ferry the same scenario could exist too which is why overnight the 2 hour window should be increased or as a better alternative, turnstiles should be equipped so that exiting passengers could swipe starting the transfer window from the time of the last EXIT rather than the entry.

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EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by fset on Thu Nov 27 21:31:32 2014, in response to Re: E-ZPass Discounts Don’t Apply Across State Lines, posted by randyo on Tue Nov 25 19:02:13 2014.

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There really should be the concept of a free transfer Metrocard turnstiles.

This idea would be great to allow passengers to swipe exit at Hewes Street on the [J] and the swipe-in as a transfer on the [G] train down below.

In Staten Island, you start your trip on a S.I. bus, then transfer to the ferry, which should just give "OK" but not deduct a fare, so you could continue in Manhattan on a train or bus.

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Nov 27 22:51:01 2014, in response to EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by fset on Thu Nov 27 21:31:32 2014.

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In Staten Island, you start your trip on a S.I. bus, then transfer to the ferry, which should just give "OK" but not deduct a fare, so you could continue in Manhattan on a train or bus.

This is already the case (except there is no swipe on the ferry as the ferry is free). You can transfer from one bus to another for free, with some exceptions, and you can always transfer from any bus to the subway. Doesn't matter if the transfer is used far, far away from the origin. So for example sometimes I would do Queens bus to LIRR to Brooklyn bus, using the free transfer on the Brooklyn bus (of course this requires LIRR fare). Or, one of my favorites -- using one MetroCard for a local bus, a second MetroCard for an express bus, transfer to a second express bus, and then using the first card for another local bus to complete your journey. (This accomplishes a trip in one express fare and one local fare, rather than the two express fares you would have paid with one card. Of course timing is crucial).

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by The silence on Fri Nov 28 00:44:32 2014, in response to EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by fset on Thu Nov 27 21:31:32 2014.

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The ferry is free all day every day. The fare was eliminated before metrocard transfers were created.

Taking the Bus or SIRTOA to the ferry entitles you to a free transfer when you get off the boat.


As for the G, the next stop has a shorter transfer to a line with better connections, more service and a quicker trip. Out of system transfers are only for locations where a transfer has changed. The F lost it's free transfer to the East Side IRT, so we get the transfer between 63rd and Lex and 59th and Lex. The Broadway-Brooklyn Elevated never had a transfer to the Crosstown line.

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Fri Nov 28 04:40:32 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by The silence on Fri Nov 28 00:44:32 2014.

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I thought the ferry fare was eliminated at the same time free transfers were introduced, as part of the One City One Fare program.

Also, I don't think the 7 at Court Square originally had a transfer to the E/G/M (then E/G/V trains).

And with the M going to Midtown, it arguably offers equivalent or better connections than the (L).

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 28 08:27:44 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Fri Nov 28 04:40:32 2014.

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You are correct.

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Fri Nov 28 09:34:38 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Nov 27 22:51:01 2014.

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I have always favored getting rid of transfer privileges in of a fixed-time pass (e.g. 3 hours). Pay one base fare and you'd get unlimited use of the base system (local bus, subway, S.I. Railway) for the fixed period. Maybe even extend it to 4 hours for overnight travel. If you transfer to an express bus, you'd pay the upgrade and get unlimited express bus rides as well.


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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Nov 28 10:55:27 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Fri Nov 28 09:34:38 2014.

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The vast majority of "innocent" trips that can't currently be completed on a single fare only desire/require one more leg. A three-legged transfer, done right, accomplishes what such people need while minimizing unfair abuse of that setup (as would happen with people making six or seven trips to do all different errands on one fare given a 3 hour unlimited time period, which I don't think should be allowed).

It's also worth noting that when paper transfers were used, the next available cut off time after midnight was 6a.m. next day. They gave you the whole night to make your transfer I suppose, if you were traveling at night. Of course that was just bus to bus so you can only do so much with that.

I believe LIB, and now NICE, do three-legged transfers all over. That's what we need in NYC. I'd even be willing to accept a slight surcharge for the third leg. So many times I am going from the outer reaches of one borough to the outer reaches of another, and, not carrying an Unlimited, feel ripped off with having to pay another fare. (This is part of what gets me on express buses, however, as it is only $1 extra for what is often a more comfortable ride that gets me from origin to destination with a free transfer in Manhattan).

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Nov 28 11:00:17 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by The silence on Fri Nov 28 00:44:32 2014.

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And I believe you can do Staten Island local bus to SIR to Manhattan bus or select subway station, all on one fare.

What upsets me, however, is that you can do two NICE buses to the subway on one fare (so you can get from the Nassau/Suffolk border to Manhattan, or even the Bronx, in one fare) but you can't go from Northeastern Queens to, say, Marine Park or Gerritsen Beach on one fare.

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 28 14:52:17 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 28 08:27:44 2014.

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So you're saying that The Silence is wrong again?

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by The Silence on Fri Nov 28 15:25:13 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Nov 28 08:27:44 2014.

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he is incorrect, the L is all hours, the M is still weekdays day time only. The M has to cross the bridge, the L uses the tunnel, which is fastrer. the M has no transfer to the 4 or 5

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sat Nov 29 01:09:00 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by The Silence on Fri Nov 28 15:25:13 2014.

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First of all, obviously I was referring to the time periods in which the (M) runs to Forest Hills. Somebody using it during rush hour is basing their trip off the service pattern that runs during rush hour. If that same person needs to make that trip on the weekend or overnight, they'll adjust their itinerary accordingly.

Second of all, the (L) may have more frequent service, but it's also significantly more crowded. If I'm going to 14th & 6th, and I have a few extra minutes to spare, I'll gladly take the slower ride on the (M) instead of packing onto the (L).

Alright, so the (M) doesn't connect to the (4)(5). So what? The (L) doesn't connect to the (B)(D), whereas the (M) offers a nice, easy, cross-platform transfer. So somebody going to Columbus Circle has the choice between packing onto the (L), and then running up and down stairs at 8th Avenue to catch the (A) or the (C), versus taking the (M) and walking across the platform at Broadway/Lafayette or West 4th. (Keeping in mind that they already had the stress of the transfer from the (G), and also keeping in mind how much trains crawl entering 8th Avenue).

Not to mention that the (M) directly serves the CBD, whereas the (L) doesn't. If you're trying to get to Herald Square, it's a lot easier to take the (G) to the (M), rather than taking the (G) to the (L) to the (N)(Q)(R). For that matter, if you need to get to Penn Station or Times Square, it's still easier, even with the extra block of walking (assuming the weather isn't too terrible, but even then, people walk much further distances just to access a subway station in most parts of the outer boroughs).

That's why I said "arguably". Yeah, somebody going up to 86th Street would be better off with the (G) to the (L) to the (4)(5), whereas somebody going up to Herald Square is better off with the (G) to the (M).

The way you phrased it made it sound like the (L) is better for all possible trips (by saying "better connections, more service and a quicker trip", when that is clearly not the case.

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 29 10:15:21 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 28 14:52:17 2014.

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Yup.

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 29 10:16:09 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by The Silence on Fri Nov 28 15:25:13 2014.

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I wasn't responding to that. I was responding to your uninformed assertion about the SI Ferry fare.

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Nov 29 20:27:52 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 29 10:15:21 2014.

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Thanks.

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Nov 29 20:28:44 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 29 10:16:09 2014.

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+1

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by randyo on Sat Nov 29 21:39:12 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sat Nov 29 01:09:00 2014.

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Per the MTA,the CBD is any part of Manhattan below 60 St, therefore the L line does serve it.

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sat Nov 29 23:36:30 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 29 21:39:12 2014.

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There's more jobs up along the 6th Avenue & 53rd Street corridors in Midtown, compared to jobs along the 14th Street corridor. The (M) is more likely to bring somebody directly to their job, compared to the (L).

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Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 30 17:57:19 2014, in response to Re: EXIT TURNSTILE FOR METROCARD TRANSFERS, posted by The Silence on Fri Nov 28 15:25:13 2014.

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No,he isn't.
Avoiding the L during peak is a far better option.

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