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Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Oct 3 20:01:32 2014, in response to Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 3 16:50:37 2014. You have just proved you are totally stupid!!!! |
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Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Fri Oct 3 20:30:25 2014, in response to Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 3 16:50:20 2014. Umm, if i may, I have no problem with you. Do you have a problem with me? |
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Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 3 23:40:04 2014, in response to Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Oct 3 15:30:21 2014. He knows..but really doesn't care.He's a special kind of phalarex. |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by snarf368 on Sat Oct 4 11:32:11 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Oct 2 18:57:58 2014. Bill from Maspeth said "He deserves a second chance."NO HE DOES NOT!!! There is no excuse for such aggressive driving especially a huge bus on a busy street. Sure buses cut off stupid drivers here and there but this driver clearly poses a risk to himself and everyone around him. |
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Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 4 11:36:28 2014, in response to Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Cornell Park on Fri Oct 3 20:30:25 2014. Terrapin Station has a problem with everyone. |
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Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 4 11:38:11 2014, in response to Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 3 23:40:04 2014. He has a problem with everyone (Except him of course). |
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Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by snarf368 on Sat Oct 4 11:40:07 2014, in response to Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Oct 1 11:01:20 2014. ChicagoMotorman said "The one who took that video has no respect for public transportation and its riders. "True or not does not excuse the NICE driver for crossing a double yellow just to cut the guy off. |
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Posted by busdude2 on Sat Oct 4 12:06:58 2014, in response to Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by SubwaySurf on Thu Oct 2 02:55:07 2014. IAWTP |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Oct 4 12:46:35 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by snarf368 on Sat Oct 4 11:32:11 2014. As I said to the other guy "Let' s agree to disagree". |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Oct 4 12:50:04 2014, in response to Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by snarf368 on Sat Oct 4 11:40:07 2014. 2 wrongs don't make a right but-------- wasn't the guy taking the video driving at the same time? If so that's just as distracting as texting while driving or holding a cell phone in your hand talking on it. |
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Wait a minute (Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video) |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Sat Oct 4 12:55:00 2014, in response to NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by R40SlantontheB on Tue Sep 30 23:36:18 2014. Look at the video starting at 0:59, when the car filming the video is 'cut off' by the NICE driver. The bus already has the left turn signal on when this guy tries to pass it. Couldn't this be considered a failure to yield to the bus? |
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Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by snarf368 on Sat Oct 4 13:52:43 2014, in response to Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Oct 4 12:50:04 2014. Bill from Maspeth said "2 wrongs don't make a right but-------- wasn't the guy taking the video driving at the same time? If so that's just as distracting as texting while driving or holding a cell phone in your hand talking on it. "It was a dashcam. Yes the video poster is not a very good driver and could use a lesson or 10 but public bus drivers are held to a higher standard. |
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Posted by snarf368 on Sat Oct 4 13:57:00 2014, in response to Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by sloth on Thu Oct 2 17:09:02 2014. sloth said "Compared to what the taxi drivers do around here, this was nothing. "True but imagine the damage a 40 foot bus can do compared to a cab making the same exact moves. Though not a good excuse, cab drivers earnings are based on how many fares they pickup so they drive aggressively. What is the bus driver's excuse? He's behind schedule and will cut into his layover time? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Oct 4 14:18:58 2014, in response to Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by snarf368 on Sat Oct 4 13:52:43 2014. I have a friend who rose thru the ranks at MTA/LIB from b/o to dispatcher which he still is at NICE.New operator training is not nearly as thorough at NICE than when MTA did it. Magnano's ejection of MTA plays into this incident. |
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Posted by snarf368 on Sat Oct 4 17:13:39 2014, in response to Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Oct 4 14:18:58 2014. Bill from Maspeth said "I have a friend who rose thru the ranks at MTA/LIB from b/o to dispatcher which he still is at NICE.New operator training is not nearly as thorough at NICE than when MTA did it. Magnano's ejection of MTA plays into this incident. " If you're going to defend the driver, come up with something better. I'm sure the driver is very skilled. It takes a good skilled driver to make those moves with a bus however he has major road rage and is a danger on the road PERIOD!! I admit to having driven like that in my 20s in my own personal car and now as a mature adult, I realize how stupid it was and to let minor incidents on the road go. Not worth the few seconds I will lose, my job, my life, or someone else's. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Oct 4 17:23:41 2014, in response to Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by snarf368 on Sat Oct 4 17:13:39 2014. I am not defending the driver. You are putting words in my mouth.The b/o's at NICE would have better skills if they were trained properly. That is all I'm saying. Proper training includes DEFENSIVE driving rather than OFFENSIVE driving. A good training program drives these skills into your head. |
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Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Sat Oct 4 17:32:18 2014, in response to Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 4 11:36:28 2014. I don't believe he does with me. He is a big boy, let him speak for himself. |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Sat Oct 4 20:47:17 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by snarf368 on Sat Oct 4 11:32:11 2014. You need to calm down. Clearly you don't drive because you'd know what its like to deal with all the idiots on the road. |
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Re: Wait a minute (Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video) |
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Posted by Futurekbarticop on Sat Oct 4 21:55:33 2014, in response to Wait a minute (Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video), posted by RailBus63 on Sat Oct 4 12:55:00 2014. How can I see the video? |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Sun Oct 5 00:00:29 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by busdude2 on Thu Oct 2 18:14:24 2014. +1000By stopping to confront the driver, that's road rage. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Oct 5 00:59:29 2014, in response to NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by R40SlantontheB on Tue Sep 30 23:36:18 2014. The notion of outsourcing operation of formerly public transit authority operated transit services in this area should never have been considered an option. It's something that might be viable in smaller urban areas such as saint louis or omaha. In the new york city area it's ridiculous. Like it or not transit is a utility like sewers or highway departments and has to be run as such. Especially in this region. A very bad decision by powers that be in Nassau County. |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by snarf368 on Sun Oct 5 09:31:58 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by N6 Limited on Sat Oct 4 20:47:17 2014. N6 Limited said "You need to calm down. Clearly you don't drive because you'd know what its like to deal with all the idiots on the road."I am very calm thank you. I've been driving regularly for over 30 years and riding public transportation for over 45. I've felt the pain of bus drivers as they deal with idiots on the road. Many times I've yelled at car drivers or pedestrians on behalf of bus drivers for blocking bus stops or other stupid things that disrupt the bus and flow of traffic. I know what it's like to deal with idiots on the road. I understand B/O and non B/O here defending the driver or trying to give explanations but his actions are just not acceptable. The first cutoff sent a message. The last one of crossing a double yellow was totally uncalled for. |
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Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Oct 5 09:37:21 2014, in response to Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by ntrainride on Sun Oct 5 00:59:29 2014. Powers that be in Nassau was one person: Magnano.The others went along with it because none of them ever ride a bus + future political favors. |
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Re: Wait a minute (Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video) |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Sun Oct 5 09:44:48 2014, in response to Re: Wait a minute (Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video), posted by Futurekbarticop on Sat Oct 4 21:55:33 2014. I'm referring to the video in the original post. |
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Re: Wait a minute (Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 5 11:58:49 2014, in response to Wait a minute (Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video), posted by RailBus63 on Sat Oct 4 12:55:00 2014. No. |
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Re: Wait a minute (Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video) |
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Posted by busdude2 on Sun Oct 5 12:12:00 2014, in response to Wait a minute (Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video), posted by RailBus63 on Sat Oct 4 12:55:00 2014. It does not excuse the bus drivers illegal driving wrong side of the road and the road rage when he stops in front of the guy filming. Fire that ASS. |
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Re: Wait a minute (Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video) |
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Posted by kcram3500 on Sun Oct 5 12:19:04 2014, in response to Wait a minute (Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video), posted by RailBus63 on Sat Oct 4 12:55:00 2014. A turn signal is a legally-required indication of intent, but it does not automatically grant right-of-way. When the bus pulls out in the beginning of the video, that appeared to be returning to traffic from a bus stop, which a number of states have indeed granted automatic right of way (NJT and NJ private buses all have Yield-sign stickers on the bus rear to indicate the NJ state law [39:4-87.1]). But at 0:59, the bus is simply changing lanes to avoid a row of parked cars, and is required to wait for a safe opening before completing the action, turn signal or not. |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Sun Oct 5 19:46:03 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by snarf368 on Sun Oct 5 09:31:58 2014. The B/O was probably just going to the left turn lane when the "victim" decided that he too wanted to cross into the left turn lane. |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Oct 5 20:17:50 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by N6 Limited on Sun Oct 5 19:46:03 2014. and it is a potential accident. |
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Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sun Oct 5 20:50:54 2014, in response to Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by ntrainride on Sun Oct 5 00:59:29 2014. Excellent post! |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by The Silence on Sun Oct 5 21:37:37 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by N6 Limited on Fri Oct 3 12:32:32 2014. Well then there is the problem, because they are headlights moving towards the bus. |
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Posted by Merrick1 on Sun Oct 5 21:53:42 2014, in response to Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by ntrainride on Sun Oct 5 00:59:29 2014. I'm not sure how important bus service is to most Long Islanders. I work in Jamaica and I don't know of anyone in the office who commutes by NICE bus even though it's 3 blocks from the Jamaica bus terminal. Most people from LI drive and some take the LIRR to Jamaica and then take an NYCTA bus to the office. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Oct 6 04:48:37 2014, in response to Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Merrick1 on Sun Oct 5 21:53:42 2014. I mean, i hear you on that, but it's still too important a part of the transportation infrastructure to be operated by a private company. Maybe school buses but that's it. |
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Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 09:08:49 2014, in response to Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 4 11:38:11 2014. WADL!!! Wrong again, Dan Lawrence. Why are you almost always wrong, Dan Lawrence? |
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Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 09:10:02 2014, in response to Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Cornell Park on Fri Oct 3 20:30:25 2014. Thanks. No, I don't think I have a problem with you, despite our past disagreements (IIRC). |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 09:11:17 2014, in response to Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Oct 4 11:36:28 2014. WADL!!!! Just because you're almost always wrong Dan Lawrence, and everyone lets you know it, doesn't mean I have a problem with everyone! LOL!! |
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Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 09:11:51 2014, in response to Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Oct 3 20:01:32 2014. No. I proved I'm right and you're wrong. |
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Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 09:12:39 2014, in response to R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Oct 1 08:43:55 2014. Bump. Why is he avoiding this? Was he in jail or something??? |
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Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Mon Oct 6 10:26:23 2014, in response to Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 09:10:02 2014. Don't remember any and it's not that important if we did disagree. That would be considered human nature in my opinion. Not going to take this place personal. |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 10:27:55 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by N6 Limited on Sun Oct 5 19:46:03 2014. Since the video shows that the driver of the car entered the turn lane at the earliest point where it was legal and the fact that the bus pulled into oncoming traffic, no it was no "probably" like that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 10:30:20 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by N6 Limited on Fri Oct 3 12:32:32 2014. No, he crossed the yellow line buffer, thus into the area reserved for vehicles going the other way. Where exactly do you see the operator of the vehicle "doesn't know what he's doing?"Or is it that you'd defend a bus operator no matter what he did, even if he murdered someone in cold blood? |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Oct 6 13:22:14 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by The Silence on Sun Oct 5 21:37:37 2014. There were no headlights moving toward the bus, the signal was red, and he wasn't in the westbound traffic through lanes. it was a hardly used left turn lane. |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Oct 6 14:21:35 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 10:30:20 2014. Actually at that part of Northern blvd the yellow line buffer is one lane wide, therefore its reserved for air.I'm not defending a bus operator "no matter what", however you can see from the footage that the driver could have let the bus pass or simply moved to the left lane, he decides to ignore the movement of the bus and the signal, almost t-bone the bus and honk his horn instead. Then, he's concerned that a bus that is closed door in Queens is passing on the left, who cares, that's an undeveloped part of Northern Blvd, whom/what exactly would the B/O be picking up, frogs? I observe everything when I drive (as you're supposed to) there are people that are in their own bubble, they do not drive concertedly. |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 14:25:56 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by N6 Limited on Mon Oct 6 13:22:14 2014. Still dangerous and illegal. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 15:22:57 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by N6 Limited on Mon Oct 6 14:21:35 2014. I'm not defending a bus operator "no matter what", however you can see from the footage that the driver could have let the bus pass or simply moved to the left lane, he decides to ignore the movement of the bus and the signal, almost t-bone the bus and honk his horn instead.No, the driver would have had to stop entirely, and in any event, he did turn into the left lane. You can also see that he couldn't do so immediately as there was another car in the left lane. You don't know if there wasn't anyone in the left lane who had to stop as well to let the driver in. Then, he's concerned that a bus that is closed door in Queens is passing on the left, who cares, that's an undeveloped part of Northern Blvd, whom/what exactly would the B/O be picking up, frogs? The bus was obviously speeding and changed back into the right lane so close to the filming vehicle that it was obviously meant to antagonize. |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Oct 6 15:43:26 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 14:25:56 2014. It *can* be dangerous, it's really all about context. When you make a U-Turn you're essentially doing the same thing. |
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Re: Wait a minute (Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video) |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Oct 6 15:46:34 2014, in response to Re: Wait a minute (Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video), posted by busdude2 on Sun Oct 5 12:12:00 2014. This is NICE, maybe the bus broke down, lol |
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Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 6 18:48:01 2014, in response to Re: R40SlantontheB is back???? Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by Cornell Park on Mon Oct 6 10:26:23 2014. Very good. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 6 19:17:26 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by N6 Limited on Mon Oct 6 15:43:26 2014. No, you're not. Of course, U-turns are illegal in a number of places. |
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Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video |
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Posted by snarf368 on Mon Oct 6 20:13:00 2014, in response to Re: (NEWS 12 Long Island) Re: NICE Bus dangerous driving video, posted by N6 Limited on Mon Oct 6 13:22:14 2014. N6 Limited, you're either the driver in the video or a shop steward. Fact is every one of the "moves" in the video if by itself can be excusable. Drivers here whether in their personal cars and/or buses have done them whether it's to avoid a bad driver, get around traffic or whatever. But when you put all those incidents together in a short span of time and obviously against a single driver, it shows the B/O had bad road rage and put many people in unnecessary danger. Stop embarrassing yourself by trying to defend those actions. Assuming you're a NICE driver and you think the actions of the video are acceptable, why don't you do the same exact thing on every run tomorrow and see how you can go without getting into an accident and/or losing your job. |
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