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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by The Orion Kid on Wed Jul 30 01:02:58 2014, in response to Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Jul 30 00:59:09 2014. It's a NJT contract line, NJT's site would have the schedule. I don't know about the number though. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jul 30 19:52:54 2014, in response to Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Jul 30 00:59:09 2014. I used to ride it in the 90's once a year.It is really Suburban Transit, I believe their Route 60. It runs about 2 frequencies to New Brunswick. Don't know if it is gone. The RVL station never had any reference to it. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by 167t on Thu Jul 31 01:11:48 2014, in response to Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by checkmatechamp13 on Wed Jul 30 00:59:09 2014. You'll have to look through the 800 service timetables. The Middlesex lines have all been redone years ago. The line you're asking about used to run all day, then cut back to a couple of trips each way, that's when Suburban Transit had it. It's probably now part of something else. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jul 31 17:50:59 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by 167t on Thu Jul 31 01:11:48 2014. The problem is that when I type in Dunellen as an origin point, it only gives Atlantic City as a destination. Unless it happens to pass through New Brunswick, but is pick-up/drop-off only en route to Atlantic City.It's a shame if it was discontinued, since there's very few routes that connect the areas by the RVL to the areas by the NEC (at least in that portion of NJ). |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by kcram3500 on Thu Jul 31 18:39:52 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by Joe V on Wed Jul 30 19:52:54 2014. The 60 was actually a PS/TNJ route that was dropped in the NJT Middlesex County reorganization. Once Suburban picked it up, I believe it was specifically operated by Suburban's HAML division.
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Fri Aug 1 18:37:07 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by kcram3500 on Thu Jul 31 18:39:52 2014. Interesting... is that the same 135 that morphed into the 115? The one that ran from New Brunswick thru Highland Park, Edison, Colonia, et al through Elizabeth?Are you able to scan the full timetable? Thanks! |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 1 19:52:52 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by JohnnyMints on Fri Aug 1 18:37:07 2014. The 135 as I remember it in the 1990's was a duplicate of the 60 (Somerville terminus, no Raritan), but once in New Brunswick, proceeded on the TPK to PABT like a regular Princeton bus.What is the HAML division ? In the 1960's, I remember seeing orange Suburban Transit Old Look Hydromatics. What route were they on ? |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 1 19:55:22 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by checkmatechamp13 on Thu Jul 31 17:50:59 2014. I used it as a shortcut from Somerville to the NEC and points south, via Edison.Now you are left with a Academy-contracted route between Plainfeild and Metuchen. I do not care to wait around in Plainfield. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by kcram3500 on Fri Aug 1 20:51:58 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by JohnnyMints on Fri Aug 1 18:37:07 2014. There were "two": 135s... the Manville-New Brunswick-New York express from the schedule you saw, and the New Brunswick-Rahway-New York that became the 115. I'll scan the whole 135/60 for you tomorrow. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by kcram3500 on Fri Aug 1 20:52:59 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 1 19:52:52 2014. HAML was a Suburban-owned operation that ran Rutgers buses before the Academy contract, and local routes in Middlesex. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Fri Aug 1 23:00:55 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 1 19:55:22 2014. Funnily enough, if you were making that same trip today, it would be easier, because Somerset County now operates two rush hour routes (the DASH 851/852) that run from Bridgewater Commons, through Somerville, and end in New Brunswick. There's also the CAT 1R, which leaves you at Highland & Hamilton, about a 20 minute walk from the New Brunswick train station. (That bus runs middays).I guess on a side note, I think there should be an 854 route, which would combine the lower part of the 853 with the upper part of the 851/852, providing an all-day connection between the two rail lines. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 2 12:10:59 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by checkmatechamp13 on Fri Aug 1 23:00:55 2014. DASH only went to Finderne via Bopund Brook. What did to start going west and north farther ?I know about the CAT and SCOOT buses. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 2 12:12:30 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by kcram3500 on Fri Aug 1 20:52:59 2014. What does HAML stand for ? |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by kcram3500 on Sat Aug 2 12:20:08 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 2 12:12:30 2014. I knew at one time... it was H-something Area Motor Lines if memory serves, but don't hold me 100% to that. Initializing company names became common when the company wanted to expand or move and the company name was tied to a specific area... similar to PABCO Transit originally being Passaic-Athenia Bus Company. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 2 12:42:21 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by checkmatechamp13 on Fri Aug 1 23:00:55 2014. http://www.co.somerset.nj.us/scootdash.htmlDoesn't look like the DASH run west of Finderne to me. |
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135/60 schedule scan - Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by kcram3500 on Sat Aug 2 13:02:26 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by kcram3500 on Fri Aug 1 20:51:58 2014. 135 service were the runs that went to/from NYC, 60 service only went as far as New Brunswick.For you younger fans who never saw Public Service/Transport of New Jersey schedules before, the garage information was almost always on the printed schedule - garage supervisor's name, garage name, address, and phone number. The New Brunswick garage was closed when the NJT reorganized the Middlesex County routes in the early 80s.  
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Re: 135/60 schedule scan - Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sat Aug 2 15:00:32 2014, in response to 135/60 schedule scan - Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by kcram3500 on Sat Aug 2 13:02:26 2014. Thank you for posting this. I've never seen a TNJ schedule before, so I can really appreciate the simplicity of the format and accountability (listing the supervisor and garage on the timetable).It's such a shame that this is no longer common practice (in both respects). |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by 167t on Sat Aug 2 17:59:46 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by kcram3500 on Sat Aug 2 12:20:08 2014. They were the first letters of the owners last names. I know the "L" was Lipschitz. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sat Aug 2 18:59:08 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 2 12:42:21 2014. Ah, I was confusing those with the SCOOT R1/R2 (the ones that go through Hillsborough & Manville). Those are the ones that go to Bridgewater Commons. The DASH buses only go to Bridgewater Promenade. Sorry about that. |
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Re: 135/60 schedule scan - Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Sat Aug 2 19:41:02 2014, in response to 135/60 schedule scan - Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by kcram3500 on Sat Aug 2 13:02:26 2014. Thanks for posting this. Looks like it was pretty much a peak hour operation. I have a bunch of TNJ schedules that I've collected and they all pretty much look like this. Some of them have the little line map like today's NJT timetables but others didn't. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by kcram3500 on Sat Aug 2 20:01:18 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by 167t on Sat Aug 2 17:59:46 2014. Thanks for that - I was given that other name about 20 years ago, but nothing else ever came up in research. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 2 20:16:00 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sat Aug 2 18:59:08 2014. When Somerset County started running Easton Av DASH buses in the 1990's, Suburban was still running to Somerville, and made quite a fuss.So Somerset had to make sure no bus ran through between New Brunswick and Bound Brook, but the various frequencies merely overlapped. Of course Suburban made no attempt to run through corporate office parks on Davidson Ave where transit-dependent people had to go, and made it very difficult to obtain a schedule, even to County officials, so they were full of shit. I suspect that same arrogance today is what caused them to first cut to Dunellen "60" bus back from 5 frequencies per rush period to 2, then to 0. I do not think Suburban should have been granted Atlantic City franchises from these areas given the way they treated the locals, pun intended. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Sat Aug 2 22:57:37 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 2 20:16:00 2014. What equipment was Suburban using on those locals? MCI's? |
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Re: 135/60 schedule scan - Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by njbus25 on Sat Aug 2 23:00:23 2014, in response to Re: 135/60 schedule scan - Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by metrolinecoach111 on Sat Aug 2 15:00:32 2014. Thanks so much for for posting this. I have a few vintage TNJ, Maplewood and R&T scheds posted here: http://njbus.blogspot.com/ |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sat Aug 2 23:58:08 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 2 20:16:00 2014. Wow, that was pretty rotten of them to intentionally force Somerset to screw up its local routes like that.Out of curiosity, who was subsidizing the Dunellen bus? (I'm assuming the NY-bound runs were making money). |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by kcram3500 on Sun Aug 3 00:16:13 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by JohnnyMints on Sat Aug 2 22:57:37 2014. Of the ones I remember seeing, the HAML buses were 1976 NJDOT Flxibles. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 3 07:23:37 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by JohnnyMints on Sat Aug 2 22:57:37 2014. In the 1990's, usually a beaten up MC-9 with a stick.One time it was a Flxible Metro or Grumman. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 3 07:28:15 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sat Aug 2 23:58:08 2014. I have no idea, and it was a phantom bus. Getting a schedule was like getting the combination to Fort Knox, no mention of it in the NJT timetables as a connection, even though they could have benefited with feeder passengers.I know a chief transportation planner in Somerset County, and whenever I mentioned Suburban Transit, he would turn red and start huffing and puffing. He was also trying to pull together infor for a booklet of transit infor in the county with everything, even Martz (now gone) and Susquehanna Trailways buses stopping in Somerville. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Sun Aug 3 13:14:01 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 3 07:28:15 2014. That's really a shame. It's like they wanted it to fail - why they would want it to I don't know. |
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Re: 135/60 schedule scan - Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by JohnnyMints on Sun Aug 3 15:21:43 2014, in response to Re: 135/60 schedule scan - Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by JohnnyMints on Sat Aug 2 19:41:02 2014. I also find it interesting that Transit has reverted back to the AM light face/PM bold face format after many years. It does make the schedule easier to read than when they listed am/pm on timetables from the 80's and 90's. |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by hound on Sun Aug 3 22:48:59 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by kcram3500 on Sat Aug 2 20:01:18 2014. Wasn't Tiger Bus Line another offshoot of Suburban? |
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Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA) |
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Posted by 167t on Mon Aug 4 00:46:43 2014, in response to Re: Dunellen Local Bus (Coach USA), posted by hound on Sun Aug 3 22:48:59 2014. Tiger is the Princeton University system. It's contracted out to First Transit. Nothing to do with Suburban |
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