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MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by kcram3500 on Wed Sep 4 15:39:19 2013 edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Just to ensure accurate information is posted... MCI is the sole bidder for the NJT contract that was due today for CNG coaches, but in an interesting wrinkle, they have bid for all 160 units... a total bid of $107,396,046.21, or $671,225.29 each. That price is relatively comparable to the original DesignLine bid in 2011 of $45,455,516.00 ($598,098.89 each) for the first 76. This would essentially confirm two things - the speculation that MCI may accept the delivered DesignLines as trade-ins, and DesignLine has officially defaulted on their contract. Because MCI was the sole submitter, the bid will likely be reviewed, but since DesignLine is in bankruptcy and a state of closure, and no other supplier can produce the desired configuration, it should be approved by FTA without issue.
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Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by ctrabs74* on Wed Sep 4 21:31:45 2013, in response to MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches, posted by kcram3500 on Wed Sep 4 15:39:19 2013.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I guess it'll just be a matter of how soon the buses can be built and delivered, considering most of the existing 7000-series CNGs are on verge of retirement or already at North Bergen.
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Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by JohnnyMints* on Wed Sep 4 22:13:25 2013, in response to MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches, posted by kcram3500 on Wed Sep 4 15:39:19 2013.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It will be interesting to see if the new MCI's will also have the "bed bug proof" seats... from what I was told the switch in the NABI order from the traditional fabric to the blue fabric was made because of that. Given that the Designlines also have those seats seems to back that up.
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Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by RailBus63* on Thu Sep 5 09:24:37 2013, in response to MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches, posted by kcram3500 on Wed Sep 4 15:39:19 2013.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Interesting, but it only confirms that MCI was smart enough to give NJT an option to ditch the DesignLine order if they so choose. Given that DesignLine is in bankruptcy and NJT is a creditor, I would think that those coaches are in legal limbo right now and MCI would have no right to take possession of them.
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Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by kcram3500* on Thu Sep 5 12:06:57 2013, in response to Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches, posted by RailBus63 on Thu Sep 5 09:24:37 2013.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d If NJT accepted a bid for all 160 units, the DesignLine contract has been defaulted. NJT wouldn't be able to amend the bid request for all 160 unless that had occurred. Such a situation would not have been made public, although it may later appear in the bankruptcy filing. As for NJT being a creditor, they are also a debtor. The $3.6 million DL owes NJT is the late fee for missing deadlines, but NJT owes DL for the buses that were delivered and placed in service. Recall that buses are normally not paid for until the completion of the contract - DL can now request payment or return if DL ends the contract. Once the NJT board signs off on the MCI contract, it's possible that MCI will quickly produce 13 buses to allow NJT to remove the DLs that now have mileage from service. Those DLs can then either be returned to DesignLine, traded to MCI, or sold directly by NJT.
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Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by Q4 on Thu Sep 5 12:54:03 2013, in response to Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches, posted by kcram3500 on Thu Sep 5 12:06:57 2013. edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Anyone know where I can see a picture of the DL NJT buses?
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Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by Gold_12th* on Thu Sep 5 13:33:57 2013, in response to Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches, posted by Q4 on Thu Sep 5 12:54:03 2013.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d
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Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Sep 5 16:17:36 2013, in response to MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches, posted by kcram3500 on Wed Sep 4 15:39:19 2013.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Pay-to-play strikes again?
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Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by Caitsith810.* on Thu Sep 5 19:22:42 2013, in response to Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches, posted by Q4 on Thu Sep 5 12:54:03 2013.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Here ya go.
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Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by Caitsith810.* on Thu Sep 5 19:22:59 2013, in response to Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches, posted by Q4 on Thu Sep 5 12:54:03 2013.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Here ya go.
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Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by 167t* on Thu Sep 5 21:25:09 2013, in response to Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Sep 5 13:33:57 2013.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Please remove that!! My computer is melting!!! LOL
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Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by 167t* on Thu Sep 5 21:28:24 2013, in response to MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches, posted by kcram3500 on Wed Sep 4 15:39:19 2013.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I saw this coming from day one. 1) DesignLine has never built a coach, let alone a CNG coach. 2) Sending a guy with a camera to Howell to take pictures of an MCI for their own design. This was doomed from the start, now we see the results.
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Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by ctrabs74* on Thu Sep 5 23:54:49 2013, in response to Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 5 16:17:36 2013.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I doubt that's the case here. Unless there's another bus builder who can build a CNG cruiser coach that can also comply with Buy America requirements.
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Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches
Posted by Queens Surface 295* on Fri Sep 6 00:01:33 2013, in response to Re: MCI sole bidder for all 160 NJT CNG coaches, posted by 167t on Thu Sep 5 21:25:09 2013.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailB:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d +1 That single leaf door needs to go!
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