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Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Jun 21 12:32:22 2012, in response to MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jun 21 12:29:47 2012. Wow that was fast.I don't quite understand the "camera on driver aspect" if they aren't planning to do just what the union workers are claiming. |
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Posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Thu Jun 21 12:32:25 2012, in response to MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jun 21 12:29:47 2012. MTA wants to follow NICE's lead? Go figure... |
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Posted by mci guy on Thu Jun 21 12:52:28 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Thu Jun 21 12:32:25 2012. this idea is not TOO NICE. |
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Posted by Dan on Thu Jun 21 13:49:46 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by mci guy on Thu Jun 21 12:52:28 2012. But wouldn't it protect driver from attacks by crazy passengers? |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Jun 21 16:10:26 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Dan on Thu Jun 21 13:49:46 2012. BINGO...they want to defend the agency against claims that pummeling the driver was "self-defense". It would also clear up the driver's actions before an accident to determine who caused it. That would keep most cases out of court, lowering operating costs. |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Thu Jun 21 18:21:31 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by JAzumah on Thu Jun 21 16:10:26 2012. Operating costs are not going to be affected. Those assclowns at 2 Broadway will still employ the same amount of lawyers to defend the Authority, (NOT the Operators) regardless of any video. And the shysters will STILL settle instead of going the court route.STILL LOL@ON THE PAYROLL SHYSTERS |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Thu Jun 21 18:58:26 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by BigBusDriver on Thu Jun 21 18:21:31 2012. Funny you mention it -- whenever they tried to find my actions "negligent" or find me "at fault" in such situations (though there weren't many), I always said, "Fine, find me at fault and I'm testifying for the Plaintiff".The reason was, the TA likes things their way, and will find me at fault (internally) simply to raise general fund revenue via suspension penalty and fine, but *still* go ahead and defend my actions in court! Matter of fact, the only time they successfully suspended me (days actually out of work) was when I not only allowed it, but desired it! I can still remember how I turned a violation for having a newspaper in my window from a slap-on-the-hand re-instruct (or potential joint interview) .... to a 25-day August vacation :-) I spent the entire month of August in my pool, and was paid via cashing in some accumulated days. I was the envy of QV for a month. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Thu Jun 21 22:42:28 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Thu Jun 21 18:58:26 2012. You should have had a post card hanging in the dispatchers window with the inscription "Having a wonderful time. Glad your not here!" See how long before somebody from management figures it out. |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Thu Jun 21 23:06:31 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Cornell Park on Thu Jun 21 22:42:28 2012. I did one better. I posted a picture of myself enjoying my pool and taped it to the Supt's door, where it stuck for a few days until he returned =)Fully dedicated and signed =) After my "vacation" was over, another boss came over to me and said, "You ever tape a picture like that to my door, I'll personally come to your house for your pass and badge." I said, "Good, saves me the trip" and walked away. None of those guys intimidated me. They knew they couldn't touch me, and it killed them. I was a walking contract and rule book. |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Thu Jun 21 23:08:34 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Thu Jun 21 23:06:31 2012. Correction.... I meant to say... "I did one better. I posted a picture of myself in full uniform enjoying my pool and taped it to the Supt's door, where it stuck for a few days until he returned =)" |
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Posted by JAzumah on Fri Jun 22 00:30:02 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Thu Jun 21 23:08:34 2012. LOL...now that's terrible. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Jun 22 01:20:37 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Thu Jun 21 23:08:34 2012. SWEET. I knew of a train dispatcher who was getting suspended for an infraction, argued his time up to 30 days, then used the SUPTS phone to book his airline tickets. MAke em pay someone else the full rate to cover those runs. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jun 22 02:30:34 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Thu Jun 21 23:06:31 2012. Niiiiice. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Fri Jun 22 09:10:11 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by JAzumah on Fri Jun 22 00:30:02 2012. No, that's how to handle the ego problem. All actions tend to have a reaction. They don't get it, they will not get a depot named after them. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jun 22 10:34:04 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Thu Jun 21 23:06:31 2012. Awesome! |
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Posted by WayneJay on Fri Jun 22 11:14:46 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Thu Jun 21 23:06:31 2012. Awesome! That's great. What with these guys and their egos? I once heard from a family friend who is a WMATA B/O. He was talking about how some of these lower level white shirts were quick to say/threaten that they "can write you up". I know I was getting this second-hand, but it sounds almost as if those supervisors take their ability/authorization to write up someone as some sort of priviledge/perk. |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Fri Jun 22 11:48:41 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Jun 22 01:20:37 2012. I wouldn't allow them to get to 30 days, because the next infraction can come with suspend and dismiss. With the TA, if you're smart, choose your battles wisely, you can beat them every time. However, if you go to war with the TA, you will lose. Keep 'em battles; keep 'em short and sweet and get on with life =)Funny also you mention someone else covering at full pay -- they were so intimidated by me that they routinely had a report time the same time as my run, just in case "something came up" on my end, or they expected something to come up. Whenever I saw a double report (I always checked the list board before reporting at the window) I made sure to have a great day knowing someone else was being paid to sleep in the back room. |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Fri Jun 22 11:57:56 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by WayneJay on Fri Jun 22 11:14:46 2012. A good number of them do let the promotion or position go to their heads, and they look to make a name for themselves at the expense of the lowly blue shirt. But there are also some great dispatchers and bosses -- a select few who never let the position go to their heads and were gentlemen, just doing their jobs, never looking to hurt anyone. I was fortunate enough to have known quite a few of the "good guys". Problem is, the good guys are usually outnumbered by those looking to climb the ladder of success which in their case(s), includes leaving footprints along your back. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Fri Jun 22 12:27:59 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Fri Jun 22 11:57:56 2012. The same can be said in almost any large organization. In my experience, there are more good people than bad, but it's the troublemakers and backstabbers we tend to focus on more than the hard-worker who is trying to do their best. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jun 22 12:31:07 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by RailBus63 on Fri Jun 22 12:27:59 2012. In my experience, there are more good people than bad, but it's the troublemakers and backstabbers we tend to focus on more than the hard-worker who is trying to do their best.How it should be but the words "Broad Brush" Come to mind down here sadly... All one can do is keep ones nose clean do their Job and go home.. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Fri Jun 22 12:47:46 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jun 22 12:31:07 2012. I hear what Brooklyn67 is saying about those with aspirations of climbing that ladder, but I just can't imagine why someone would seem to get enjoyment out of nailing others (fairly and unfairly). I've never supervised anyone, but I'm thinking that I'd be firm, but definitely fair. This should be a given with those who came up through the trenches. I guess it's a cases of forgetting where you came from. Sure, there's some lazy apples out who simply want to draw a paycheck, but I think in most cases people simply want to do their job, be treated fairly and get home to their families at the end of the day. |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Fri Jun 22 17:53:42 2012, in response to MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jun 21 12:29:47 2012. This would certainly alleviate the problem of customer complaints.Right now its basically a toss of the coin as to a complaints validity. Its the word of the customer versus the operator. |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Fri Jun 22 17:57:12 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by WayneJay on Fri Jun 22 12:47:46 2012. No one can get written up for doing the right thing.When we have various "sweeps" and are looking for certain activities operators get violated. Of course you take into consideration each case, but sometimes its out of supervisions hands. Otherwise you try speaking and re-instructing operators but generally speaking its the same 1% who get written up over and over. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Jun 23 20:05:32 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Fri Jun 22 11:48:41 2012. My dispatcher friend being in the SSSA didn't have the same benefit of union protection that TWU members have in arbitration which comes after the first of three circus hearings where you are guilty until proven innocent. Whenever I saw a double report or an extra board man in RTO, I looked for TSSs in the terminals where they shouldn't be. That random could have been mine :-) |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Sat Jun 23 20:28:05 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Jun 23 20:05:32 2012. Yep. They're not very smart when it comes to posting double-reports. Let's say my Run reports at 1:11 AM -- you think they'd be smart enough to post the report as a 1:00 AM report, or even, a midnight report, right? Wrong. The report is the same time as the run time report which is a dead giveaway! I salivated when I saw those, but I didn't see them very often. They knew I was clean, and I actually helped the depot's numbers, as oddly as it might seem, I usually found myself on a "random" the day after (or of, depending on my run/report) St Patrick's Day. Go figure.But I knew I'd be on a random anyhow -- I was "invisible" on my report. Up to the window, dumped my card and my trip sheet (already pre-filled) and that would be the extent of my stay at the depot. Except on my random days, where I'd see a black car parked at the gate and some SLD standing guard over the parking lot looking for me making sure I was informed to see the Crew. And of course, Kevin would have a huge grin on his face. As far as I know, I still hold the record for time to and back from a random -- 64 minutes. That's round trip from report to Brooklyn and back to QV. Then, about 4 hours home in bed with the bus parked at a bus stop "someplace" :-) Fun times! |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jun 24 09:50:28 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Sat Jun 23 20:28:05 2012. You would see them after vacation too I expect as I did in motors. That happened to me the first vacation week back as a TWU safety rep where they KNOW you joined by virtue of your release time. Those were actually the good days I remember from working there. Randoms popped up at my terminals too after those drinking holidays but I made it my rule to take the time mandated by the DOT so I'd go right before signing in. I didn't want to go before 2 and a half hours, but didn't want to risk filling below the line, constituted as a refusal. I'd guess a 64 minute round trip was followed by split time, good in your case. |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Sun Jun 24 11:13:46 2012, in response to MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jun 21 12:29:47 2012. “We do not agree and will not agree on cameras pointed toward our operators,” Willie Rivera, a bus division chairman with TWU Local 100, said.I don't know that the union has any right to dictate or mandate what the TA can or can't do with their equipment. If they (the TA) want cameras pointing at drivers, what can the union really do, other than institute language into the contract that such footage cannot be used as a disciplinary tool? But even if they manage to win there, management still has "eyes" where they hadn't before, and on a regular, permanent basis. From there, it's only a matter of time until the union negotiates the language out of the contract in favor of something else. That's always been the way of the TA -- give the union what they want right now, knowing they will give it up down the road for something less intrusive or something with monetary value. I never had a problem with Beakies; management has a right (even an obligation) to ensure I'm doing my job correctly, but cameras on drivers all day long creates an environment that's uncomfortable where a driver might feel the need to be "perfect" all the time, which translates into less focus and attention to the road and more on what s/he's doing behind the wheel. In essence, it will create a very distracted driver, in my opinion. And a driver that's constantly distracted by a camera can't possibly be "perfect". Also, if they do succeed with this plan, it will force changes the public might not really desire -- operating by the book. If you've ever been on a really slow, late bus, making stop after stop with dwell times that seem never-ending, you've probably been on a bus driven by a student driver or "Probie". They are working by the book. Just imagine if we all drove that way. Because if management has their way and points a camera at me, and can use it for disciplinary measures, that's exactly how I'd drive from that point on. Be careful what you wish for. You might just get it. |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Sun Jun 24 11:24:12 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by mr mabstoa on Fri Jun 22 17:57:12 2012. No one can get written up for doing the right thing.Well, that's not true. I've "defended" many guys who called in a by-the-book personal only to have a slip to see the boss the next day with a Delay of Service violation waiting in the wings. I've also supported a few guys who refused to pull out a legitimately defective bus, or one that wreaked of interior fumes who were held out of service and sent to see the boss. You can get written up for doing the right thing. And when this happens, it's called intimidation and harassment. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Jun 24 16:30:30 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Sun Jun 24 11:13:46 2012. And the irony is that this could end up costing more money. I mean, if the B/Os operate slowly and "by the book", that means they could have to add more runtime to a lot of routes.But I guess the ability to harass workers is priceless to them. |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Sun Jun 24 17:17:07 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Sun Jun 24 11:13:46 2012. Throw out the anchor. No passing other buses. Waiting til my lane is clear to change lanes. Wait until everyone is seated or not moving and holding on. Pulling over and stopping EVERY time they make an announcement (Don't Talk To Operator While Bus Is In Motion). Pulling out a bus map to make sure I don't give out the wrong directions. Waiting for ALL intending customers. Stopping for all flashing walk signs, so as not to run a red light.Millions of ways to operate 'safely' but not on-time. I'm in. Now give me a cut slip. |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Sun Jun 24 17:21:24 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Sun Jun 24 11:24:12 2012. And the violation gets thrown out and you get paid.STILL LOL@MORON MTA MANAGERS |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jun 25 09:40:15 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by mr mabstoa on Fri Jun 22 17:57:12 2012. No one can get written up for doing the right thing.How about getting written up and you arent even on the Payroll?? Effing scumbag TSS did that(and wrote people up for Doing the right thing) when that loser retired last year they threw a party all over Queens.. He also had a "problem" talking to people like they was 4 year olds... Labor Relations got tired of throwing out his bogus write Ups.. |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Mon Jun 25 13:44:31 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by BigBusDriver on Sun Jun 24 17:17:07 2012. Don't forget to lower your bus when requested or anytime you can't get those doors to the curb! Fully loaded RTS? Cool =)It's really a shame we don't do what they insist we do. It would help all concerned if we did -- more buses, more running time, better maintained equipment, etc. We call it "throwing out the anchor", as you'd stated, but in reality, it's exactly how the TA wants us to operate (officially, on paper, as opposed to "real world" driving). We are our own worst enemy out there. And I don't think that will ever change -- well unless there's a camera in my face. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Mon Jun 25 18:10:15 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Mon Jun 25 13:44:31 2012. You'll have more accidents driving like that. Bringing out the anchor might sink your own ship. |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Mon Jun 25 18:19:16 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by JAzumah on Mon Jun 25 18:10:15 2012. More accidents? How so? There's no safer way to operate a NYCTA bus than exactly how they train us. The training is actually very extensive, and in my opinion, there isn't a safer bus driver than one trained by the TA.I think you may have misunderstood my point (at least I hope you did)! When we say we're "throwing out the anchor", we mean we're operating by the book. If you're saying that operating by the book will cause more accidents, I couldn't disagree with you more. In my opinion, TA trained drivers are the best trained in the industry. The numbers would reflect that if we all followed the letter of the law (rulebook, training, contract and NYSVTL). Now... if you want to talk about incidents, well that's a whole other story. Incidents of having to deal with passengers would increase exponentially if everyone operated by the book! |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Jun 25 18:25:11 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Mon Jun 25 18:19:16 2012. Incidents of having to deal with passengers would increase exponentially if everyone operated by the book!Yup, but think of the cab drivers that would love us!! STILL LOL@BY THE BOOK BUSING |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jun 25 21:28:21 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Mon Jun 25 18:19:16 2012. Well..maybe Greyhound after 2001 would be a close run for your money..but i havent seen too many really stick to the letter..even when I was working there. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Mon Jun 25 23:42:50 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Mon Jun 25 18:19:16 2012. I saw a Probie driving by the rulebook last week on the B46. All I could think was how he was going to get through his shift alive. I compare his driving with the two torrid drivers on the B35 who no one got near because they couldn't (actually very good drivers, but man, those new NFs make those illegal cabs run for cover). My biggest thing about driving is space and I have found you need some velocity to maintain your spacing in front of and behind you. The anchor ensures you get you space invaded all the time. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Mon Jun 25 23:51:10 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jun 25 21:28:21 2012. I hear Academy's program is very good, but I've seen transplanted Academy guys take 3 lanes at a time at other carriers. The difference is that Academy buses tell the bosses how fast you drive and what kind of fuel economy you get, so if you are too fast or burn too much fuel, someone taps you on the shoulder. Enforcement is everything.The best resource happens to be the passengers. I had a contractor last year who was working himself to the point that he could not hold up. A lady was nice enough to tell me that one of my passengers had to take the wheel from this guy (car service). Needless to say, he was done immediately. I didn't even bother to confront him. |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Tue Jun 26 14:24:29 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Railman718 on Mon Jun 25 09:40:15 2012. So Labor Relations threw out his bogus write ups right?So I am right! |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Tue Jun 26 14:25:22 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by BigBusDriver on Sun Jun 24 17:21:24 2012. Exactly my point! |
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Posted by mr mabstoa on Tue Jun 26 14:37:12 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Brooklyn67 on Sun Jun 24 11:24:12 2012. My fault, what I meant to say was charges won't ad up to anything on bullshit violations.I never have written anyone up on a lie, anything I have written up the operator knows what he did. When it comes to road calls I have been called to wheelchair problems on the RTS where the operator failed to but the bus in neutral or pull up the parking brake and I didn't write up the operator even though I was told to, we all make mistakes. I was once ordered by three managers to write up a operator who had a wheelchair problem and she did everything by the numbers, the sensors or something electrical went wrong, and I refused to write her up because it was not her fault. They have operators so scared now to call in anything! I have operators calling me on the phone when I'm in the yard telling me they have brake problems or suspension problems and they are scared to road call the bus. Its the same with operators who run late. THey will put beakies and follow slow operators in unmarked cars to see what they are doing. I personally have written up two operators for running late but everyone knew including the operators around these road draggers that they are doing it deliberately. Its hard to prove but nothing comes of it anyway. The MTA is a place where the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 26 21:48:59 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by mr mabstoa on Tue Jun 26 14:24:29 2012. He still wrote people up though Right?THEN it got thrown out in the House Of Pain... Lets not forget the time you have to spend down there on yer own time... |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Tue Jun 26 22:40:02 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 26 21:48:59 2012. In Queens, we still have four steps; three of which are conveniently located at Queens Village Depot. Step 4, which I'd only been to once, was held at 2 Broadway.It was awesome. I was looking at 20-days until I finished talking, before seeing the arbitrator. After I finished speaking, I accepted a reprimand =) Remember, it's only a house of "pain" if you let them get to you. If you're armed with knowledge and have some amount of speaking skills, it's a house of colossal bullshit; not pain. They could *never* hurt me and they knew it. |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Tue Jun 26 22:47:48 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by mr mabstoa on Tue Jun 26 14:37:12 2012. I'd never insinuate there aren't "problem" operators, but let's be honest -- a good number of them didn't start out that way, but instead were harassed with nonsense to the point of not caring one iota about anything but the paycheck. The TA has a way of turning even the best intended student into a problem employee. I've seen it happen too many times to count. Some might say *I* was among them. Depends who you ask, I suppose.However, there are problem operators who simply enjoy doing as little as possible at the expense of anyone else. Most of the time you'll find these guys on the extra list, where they make a career out of trashing the regular guy's run without care or concern. Anyway, I hear ya. I've seen and experienced most of what you've written up there. Shrug. LOL! |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Tue Jun 26 22:49:25 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by JAzumah on Mon Jun 25 23:42:50 2012. Joel! There's a *world* of difference between a probie learning to drive a bus and me, a seasoned veteran operating by the book! I've forgotten things he hasn't experienced yet! Come on, now =) |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Tue Jun 26 22:53:23 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by Cornell Park on Fri Jun 22 09:10:11 2012. The best part about seeing these guys is telling them, "I'll be here long after you're shipped to the Bronx or Staten Island. Have a wonderful day, boss" while walking out the door. |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Tue Jun 26 22:55:01 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by BigBusDriver on Mon Jun 25 18:25:11 2012. I loved them as well. I had two guys in cabs who routinely sought me for a schedule so they could "leave" 10 minutes before I did.=) |
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Posted by Brooklyn67 on Tue Jun 26 22:55:47 2012, in response to Re: MTA wants to install video cameras to record B/O behind the wheel, but TWU vows to fight the move, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jun 22 02:30:34 2012. Legend. Or so they say. Ask around... someone's bound to remember it! |
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