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Re: B74 observations |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sun Sep 4 18:13:39 2011, in response to B74 observations, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Sun Sep 4 18:06:52 2011. I have a relative who's home route is the B74. She complains about unreliability and crowds and walks to the station most of the time now. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Sep 4 19:08:41 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Train2104 on Sun Sep 4 18:13:39 2011. She complains about unreliabilityHow can a route that short be "unreliable"? Unless the riders themselves cause the unreliability with excessive amounts of wheelchair customers or police action on every bus? |
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Posted by caine515 on Sun Sep 4 19:39:44 2011, in response to B74 observations, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Sun Sep 4 18:06:52 2011. The B74 reliability is actually much better than the B36. The B74 is needed even though the jittney cars compete for fares as well on Mermaid Avenue.It's needed because the B36 can't handle the load on it's own. Remember, the B36 starting from Nostrand Avenue and Avenue U. If it winds up being late before getting to Coney Island it winds up being SRO and is filled. B74 was cut in 1978 and reinstated 6 months later. The service is good and there is a dispatcher at Coney Island who keeps the B74 buses moving. There is also on occasion a spare UP bus there that is used if needed. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Sep 4 19:45:57 2011, in response to B74 observations, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Sun Sep 4 18:06:52 2011. Mermaid Avenue residents fight the MTA anytime they indicate that it will get the axe and IINM the B74 is actually one of the few routes that make a profit. You want to eliminate waste? How about the B13 down Gates Avenue or B20 north of the Junction? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Sep 4 19:47:40 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by caine515 on Sun Sep 4 19:39:44 2011. Correct, the spare bus sits right across the street from the McDonald's. |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sun Sep 4 20:09:01 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by caine515 on Sun Sep 4 19:39:44 2011. By unreliability I mean long waits. |
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Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Sun Sep 4 20:22:39 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Sep 4 19:45:57 2011. Um no, the B13 gets plenty of riders for it's slow schedule. Plenty of people ride it to Myrtle/Wyckoff. Most of the Q67 is what I would consider waste. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Sep 4 20:30:18 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Sep 4 19:45:57 2011. It actually doesn't make a profit because most people are transferring to/from the subway.In response to DaRidgewoodBusBuff, if there are heavy crowds west of Stillwell Avenue, what good would splitting the B36 do? You'd still need to have short-turn buses (because of the heavier loads west of Stillwell), so you might as well keep them as B74s. Plus, they help with the unreliability issues on the B36. You could have serious crowding if the B36 is delayed coming from Sheepshead Bay. |
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Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Sun Sep 4 20:39:01 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Sep 4 20:30:18 2011. Thank you for the info, I didn't know the B36 was that unreliable. It can't be as bad as the Q65 though. You're better off walking for that route. :D |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 4 22:40:15 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Sep 4 20:30:18 2011. Then why not extend the B74 to somewhere useful? I would extend it to Coney Island Hospital along the B36 route, using Surf Avenue and Ocean Parkway (but not West 5 Street). |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Sun Sep 4 23:14:46 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Sun Sep 4 20:22:39 2011. The route path of the B13 in Ridgewood makes no sense since the present route of the B13 travels in a northerly direction along Fresh Pond Road than in a southerly direction along Gates Avenue to the Ridgewood Terminal. I would recommend that NYCT extend the B52 route to Fresh Pond Road/67th Avenue via Gates Avenue, Forest Avenue etc.(current B13 Routing)to serve the Gates Avenue corridor presently served by the B13 route. I would also recommend that NYCT reroute the B13 at Cooper Avenue/Cypress Avenue to the Ridgewood Terminal via Cypress Avenue to provide needed bus service to Cypress Avenue for former B18 riders. I would provide three legged transfers between the B13 and B20 routes to provide one fare access to/from Fresh Pond Road for B13 customers and three lergged transfers between the B13 route and the B52 route for Gates Avenue B13 passengers. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Sep 5 00:06:21 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Sep 4 20:30:18 2011. It actually doesn't make a profit because most people are transferring to/from the subway.So it only makes a profit in one direction? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Sep 5 00:07:25 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Sun Sep 4 20:22:39 2011. It gets much less ridership along Gates Avenue than the B74 gets along Mermaid Avenue, and its pretty circuitous. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Sep 5 01:16:45 2011, in response to B74 observations, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Sun Sep 4 18:06:52 2011. do you think about what you post before hand?the route is needed..and its not due to riders being "lazy asses" |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Sep 5 01:18:09 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Nyctransitman on Sun Sep 4 23:14:46 2011. stop making sense... |
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Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Mon Sep 5 02:30:48 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Edwards! on Mon Sep 5 01:16:45 2011. I don't think there are any daily B74 people here. So I doubt I offended anyone, so why do you care?But maybe you're right, I said earlier I didn't know about the B36's problems, maybe I shouldn't have been so harsh. :O |
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Posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Mon Sep 5 02:44:46 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Nyctransitman on Sun Sep 4 23:14:46 2011. Hell no, I'm glad MTA choose the B13 path instead of the B18 one mainly because it benefits me so I could care less about those "other" people on Cypress Ave. let their asses walk to the (L) train or Q55, I'm very close to Cypress Hills st and Cooper Ave, and the B13 makes a great secondary route to get to Myrtle/Wyckoff because the Q55 has a lot of problems. I would hate to walk up that hill for the old B18 path.If MTA want to revive that B18 portion then combine it with the Q39, but I know that will never happen. |
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Re: B74 observations(Back in 1995) |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Sep 5 09:32:38 2011, in response to B74 observations, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Sun Sep 4 18:06:52 2011. I worked the B74 on Saturdays back in 1995-1996. There was only 1 bus out most of the day. I had Run#1. I made a trip out of Stillwell every 20mins and the trip it self was 16mins long. The fare was only $0.75 when I start but went up to $0.90 when the fare went up to I think $1.25, you only paid the full fare if you wanted a transfer and it was only good on the B64. I got 6 books of Blue transfers only since we did not need other. I was lucky to carry 10 people each trip. When Run#2 came out I went to lunch for 2 hours. When I came back we both were on line making trips every 12mins out of stillwell for about an hour and a 1/2. He went out to a short lunch and when he came back I went home. MY job paid 9:45 or so. All the other weekends jobs only paid 8 hours, Sunday there was only one bus out at all time.Now after then Free Transfers to the Subway was started I pick the job again and that pick I was packed every dame trip. The next pick is when they added more weekend buses and I could not even touch it. |
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Posted by caine515 on Mon Sep 5 11:11:55 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 4 22:40:15 2011. The B74 is technically a feeder route like the B42 is. It's purpose is to take passengers via Mermaid Avenue to the station and back. The B42 is to take passangers along Rockaway Parkway to the station. It doesn't need to go to Coney Island Hospital. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Sep 5 11:59:22 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Mon Sep 5 02:44:46 2011. The "other people", however, lost all transit service. To that end, I would actually reroute the Q39 to Broadway Junction, running via Decatur and Summerfield Streets, and following the B20 to Broadway Junction.The Q39 would then be reassigned to East New York Depot. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Mon Sep 5 18:31:36 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Sep 5 00:06:21 2011. I guess you could say that. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Sep 5 19:58:52 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 4 22:40:15 2011. In the early 1980s it was extended along Brighton Beach Avenue every 20 minutes to Corbin Place as the B74SS Shoppers Special, because shopping opportunities were very limited in Coney Island.I've always thought it should be extended and also some trips of the B42 to make them more useful. If the B36 is not overcrowded to Coney Island Hospital, it wouldn't make sense to send it there. It should go somewhere you can't get to now. If it went to Brighton Beach, you wouldn't have to take the B36 up to Neptune and back down to get to Kingsborough CC. Last year DOT proposed extending the B74 along Neptune to Kingsborough. Manhattan Beach went nuts when they heard that. I think it was a dumb proposal because it bypassed subway stops on the Brighton Line. |
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Posted by Nyctransitman on Mon Sep 5 19:59:48 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Mon Sep 5 02:44:46 2011. I didn't suggest rerouting the B13 at Cypress Avenue/Cypress Hills Street (entire former B18 route) but only rerouting the B13 route west of Cypress Hills Street/Cooper Avenue. Under this idea the B13 would be rerouted west of Cooper Avenue/Cypress Hills Street to travel along Cooper Avenue to Cypress Avenue than travel to the Myrtle Avenue/Wyckoff Avenue Subway Station (via Cypress Avenue west of Cooper Avenue) so it would still serve Cypress Hills Street at Cooper Avenue but it would be a faster ride for you to get the Myrtle Avenue/Wyckoff Avenue Subway Station. To serve Cypress Avenue south of Cooper Avenue the Q39 route could be extended to Jamaica Avenue/Cresecent Street via Cooper Avenue, Cypress Avenue(east of Cooper Avenue) and than Cypress Hills Street. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Sep 6 00:51:29 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Sep 5 19:58:52 2011. That's a good idea, send the B68 straight down Surf and have the B74 go down Neptune, although I'd also have it serve the Brighton Beach station. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 6 01:03:53 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Sep 6 00:51:29 2011. Sounds good to me to if it turns on CIA to the Brighton Station and then to KCC. They could send every other B74 at times. It wouldn't even cost that much because they could use the B1s that currently turn at Ocean Parkway when school is open. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 6 01:54:01 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Mon Sep 5 02:30:48 2011. No..you have a right to state your opinion...but a more informed opinion might work in your case here. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 6 08:25:37 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 6 01:54:01 2011. I've been saying the same to you for years and you've never listened... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 6 19:40:20 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 6 08:25:37 2011. We've ALL been saying the same to you...if you did listen,the TURTLE PROMOS wouldnt be around. |
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Posted by B1bus on Tue Sep 6 21:04:27 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 4 22:40:15 2011. I once suggested, on this board, that it be extended to Pathmark, but was shot down. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 6 22:12:27 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 6 19:40:20 2011. Incorrect, LOL! I knew you'd come back with a nonsensical response like this. The truth is that my opinions are very well informed and very few people have any problems with them. The problems people have are with my facts - they can't handle the truth. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Sep 7 02:07:50 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 6 22:12:27 2011. Sure...its just that 3/4th of your post contain mindless drivel..taunting..name calling and just plain foolishness that no one really SEES anything else you write when you are being honest.Your "song and dance" outweighs.. face it..it is what it is...and your rep speaks for itself...facts or not.. Furthermore..Your "truth" is opinion filled siredamned soupmix..it doesnt appear savory on the box to anyone..so why would we by it? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 7 06:17:50 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Edwards! on Wed Sep 7 02:07:50 2011. Wrong again, Edwards! You seem to have trouble adding up parts of the whole. 99.9% of my posts contain very well informed opinion or straight facts. It's just that, like I said, some people can't handle the truth. Maybe you'll understand this time? |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 06:53:39 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 6 19:40:20 2011. Here we go again with this "I am right all the time" shit from him. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 7 06:58:47 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 06:53:39 2011. Here we go again with the "I have a disability so you have to excuse the idiocy that I post here" shit from the "man" who can't even spell his Handle correctly. Hey, don't you have some really poor photos to go take? LOL!!! |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 08:22:32 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 7 06:58:47 2011. bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla. The same Shit but on a differnt day. FUCK YOU MAN. |
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Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 7 08:25:10 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 08:22:32 2011. Uh oh i see another MAN CRUSH COMING!*Smooches* Must be that time of the month again huh? |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 08:26:39 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 7 06:58:47 2011. Don't you have to take some MEDS, or is Wifey Poo going to feed them to you, you low life TA can't get in even with a friend help wanta be. |
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Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 08:27:36 2011, in response to Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations, posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 7 08:25:10 2011. LOL |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 7 08:29:36 2011, in response to Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations, posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 08:27:36 2011. He must be "twitching" again i guess eh?Got a itch that needs to be scratched perhaps??? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 7 08:31:06 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Edwards! on Wed Sep 7 02:07:50 2011. All hes worth is a E-Kick thats it Edwards...After a while even insulting him gets boring, soon we are going to run out of insults... |
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Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 08:31:25 2011, in response to Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations, posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 7 08:29:36 2011. I guess his wife going to need to put a Toy up you know what on him. I don't think any Gay guy would do it to him. |
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Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 7 08:32:27 2011, in response to Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations, posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 08:31:25 2011. Be careful you are insulting Gay Men with that comment... |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 08:33:40 2011, in response to Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations, posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 7 08:32:27 2011. I say they would not even touch him. I a good comment. It means they have good tast. |
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Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 7 08:40:08 2011, in response to Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations, posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 08:33:40 2011. I get what you mean! ;o)(Waits for the totally delusional and irrelevant repsonses) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 7 09:14:15 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 08:22:32 2011. That's the best you could think of for a first reply? PATHETIC! LOL! Learn how to use a spellchecker! Hey, how many times have you run away from this place crying with your tail between your legs, only to come crawling back 2 days later? Do you need another talking-down from your mommy, Railman718? LOL!Who can forget these great lines from you? "Sorry about speeling I somehow lost the speel cheeker for my Internet explory and I can't find it anywere." "I dont like it when I get asked that same question to many time. You know what I do, you know I have YOUNG KIDS to take care of. You just pissed me off right now Paul. I dont need it from you, I have other people doing it to me right now. Thank. And no I am not joken Paul" Does NYCT know they have a T/O who can't spell and possibly has trouble writing and reading too?? This is no "joken". |
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Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 7 09:19:09 2011, in response to Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations, posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 08:33:40 2011. The Turlte did EXACTLY what we said he would LOL..Too predictable... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 7 09:19:45 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Sep 7 08:22:32 2011. The Turlte did EXACTLY what we said he would LOL..Too predictable... Still ugly.... |
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Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Wed Sep 7 12:57:02 2011, in response to Re:(MAN CRUSH ) B74 observations, posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 7 09:19:09 2011. Yup and now he will stick his headSTILL LOL@BREE ON A HALF SHELL |
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Posted by BigBusDriver on Wed Sep 7 12:59:43 2011, in response to Re: B74 observations, posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 7 09:19:45 2011. When it comes to the turtle, he is to pre-DICK-table!STILL LOL@BELLVUE BOUND BREE |
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