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SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Sat Sep 4 21:19:44 2004

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Was just reading an article on articulated buses in a 1986 "BUS WORLD" magazine, and saw a pic of a SEPTA Volvo artic (#7010).Have these been retired? Or are some still running?

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Sep 5 07:20:44 2004, in response to SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Sat Sep 4 21:19:44 2004.

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No Volvo artics running in Philly. Again, (1) was preserved for the SEPTA Bus Roadeo. It was good to see it. I never rode one, darn it!

Chuck Greene

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Sun Sep 5 11:11:28 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Sep 5 07:20:44 2004.

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...So the Volvo artics are history in Philly also? Funny, I never cared for them much up here, and I rode them for years. They seemed too "blah" for me.....but the one I saw in the BUS WORLD pic (SEPTA) had a bit more "color" to it than the NJT buses. The Neo artics are great; but NJT's color scheme is too bland; actually, I like ANY bus with color...I know paint is expensive and expensive to apply, but I get tired of seeing "albino" buses...buses seemed to be in a rainbow of colors 40 years ago!

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Sep 5 11:49:54 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Sun Sep 5 11:11:28 2004.

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Most buses like you said are albinos, kind of white with some color schemes added. The old days of PTC had great colors, and even early SEPTA years had some great stuff.

White is used the most because it's relatively easy to fix, I think?

Chuck

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Sun Sep 5 12:30:46 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Sep 5 11:49:54 2004.

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White is used (on buses) because it is easier to apply and cheaper to maintain (I just read that a few days ago)..makes for some pretty "anemic"-looking buses! Yes, I loved the old PTC colors, and LOVED the early SEPTA colors.....that gold scheme looked great on the Fishbowls and Flx New Looks and I used to really love those "Gulf Oil" colors on the PCCs....sharp!

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by Orange Blossom Express on Sun Sep 5 14:18:55 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Sun Sep 5 12:30:46 2004.

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White is cleaner looking though, brighter more attractive. When I rode on the Volvo's they still had the same striped paint scheme all the other buses have, along with the road champs model buses.
I personally liked these, even though I say otherwise, i liked these loud ones, with the front grill. You can always tell it's an artic coming from a mile away with that mean black grill.
I only rode them on the MFL shuttle years ago, when it goes from Bridge-Pratt down I-95 to downtown. It was fun.

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Sun Sep 5 14:43:11 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by Orange Blossom Express on Sun Sep 5 14:18:55 2004.

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.....I hear what you're saying. It's that way with the Neo artics..you HEAR them coming and KNOW they're coming.....an artic (ANY artic) is imposing in traffic....certainly the motorists give them wide berth!

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Sep 5 19:39:44 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by Orange Blossom Express on Sun Sep 5 14:18:55 2004.

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You just ran a bell in my head. I told ACF Brill I never rode a Vovlo Artic, but I did ride that MFL artic to downtown when the they were subbing for the EL that was under constuction in Frankford.

So that must have been a Volvo, since it was so long ago.

Chuck Greene

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Sun Sep 5 20:47:29 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Sep 5 19:39:44 2004.

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The Volvo artic era only recently came to end up here on NJT (there MIGHT be a couple still at Fairview, but have not seen any for a few weeks) Now, the artic action here is Neoplan. It will be interesting to see if NJT decides to replace the Flx Metro fleet with non-artic Neos, or, if they go with NOVAs.

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by Orange Blossom Express on Sun Sep 5 22:49:52 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Sep 5 19:39:44 2004.

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Yep, sure was a volvo.

I wish I was older when I rode that, so I can remember more about the ride. I just remember sitting in the back half and watching the front move all around. It was the coolest thing.

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Sun Sep 5 22:52:39 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by Orange Blossom Express on Sun Sep 5 22:49:52 2004.

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I was watching a documentry earlier on some cable channel about SF, and there were a couple of GREAT shots of MUNI artic ETBs in the rain...man, watching an artic ETB with its poles negotiating that overhead is awesome!

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Sep 6 06:39:35 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by Orange Blossom Express on Sun Sep 5 22:49:52 2004.

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I always sit in the back. From either side depending on how the bus turns, you can see the entire front section on a hard left or right.
Extremely cool!

Chuck

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Sep 6 07:18:38 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Sep 6 06:39:35 2004.

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I always sit in the back. From either side depending on how the bus turns, you can see the entire front outside body section on a hard left or right. Kind of like the thrill fom the "horeshoe" train curve.
Extremely cool!
Chuck



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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Mon Sep 6 12:04:30 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Sep 6 07:18:38 2004.

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.....riding in the rear section of ANY artic is a lot of fun...sometimes, when I was commuting on NJT's old 9200-series Volvo artics, I used to sit in the accordian pleat section, and feel I was again riding "The Caterpillar" ride at the old Palisades Amusement Park...twist, turn, shake, rattle, and roll!! 8-)

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by ctrabs74 on Tue Sep 14 10:42:56 2004, in response to SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Sat Sep 4 21:19:44 2004.

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The 7001-7050 series were retired after the GOP Convention in 2000. All 155 Neoplan artics had been in service by that point, however the (at the time) new Neos were used to transport delegates while the handful of remaining Volvos were relegated routes like the 60. The lone Volvo remaining is 7011, which oddly enough was painted in the current SEPTA livery.

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by ctrabs74 on Tue Sep 14 10:46:27 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Sun Sep 5 20:47:29 2004.

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From past discussions, it appears that Neoplan has the inside track on the Metro B replacements; the RTS is now designed by a company called Milleneum, which bought the design of the RTS from Nova, who in turn is entirely out of the US market and focusing almost exclusively on Canada (primarily Quebec). A couple of months ago, however, I did see a Nova low floor at the Krapfs yard in West Goshen, but I hear they weren't thrilled with the design and apparently are content with the 3rd hand RTS buses and cheap Thomas TL960s that they use on the Coatesville-West Chester line.

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by Patkylekenny on Tue Sep 14 23:54:07 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by ctrabs74 on Tue Sep 14 10:42:56 2004.

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I wished septa would kept the vovlos in storage just in case...

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Sep 16 20:16:08 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by ctrabs74 on Tue Sep 14 10:46:27 2004.

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"Coatesville-West Chester line." I love that line , the only transit line they run, I think ,so it's Route "A".

Chuck Greene



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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Fri Sep 17 18:38:45 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Sep 16 20:16:08 2004.

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Hey, Chuck, haven't seen you on the board for a while. Hope all is ok. Have you been getting into Philly to ride any Neoplans?? 8-)

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Sep 17 19:45:30 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Fri Sep 17 18:38:45 2004.

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I was down in Florida to visit my friend's new retirement home in place called "The Villages", near Lady Lake, Fla. Not a sign of a transit bus around anywhere. Not for me, I need transit near me to enjoy!!

I may go NEO riding this Saturday or sunday, depending on the weather.
We are getting hit with the remnants of Ivan tonight and most of Saturday.
I'm glad New Orleans was spared. Those Thomas-Pearly beauties would be a sin to lose, and also the new/old Canal st. jobs.

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Sat Sep 18 22:21:34 2004, in response to Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Sep 17 19:45:30 2004.

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Chuck, I hear you loud and clear...I'd also have to be near transit (ANY kind!) to be happy...also glad that New Orleans was spared...those beautiful streetcars (not to mention human lives!) are far too valuable to lose!

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Re: SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Jul 31 05:34:51 2006, in response to SEPTA Volvo artics: where are they now?, posted by ACF BRILL 2500 on Sat Sep 4 21:19:44 2004.

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B/T NECROpost of the day

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