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Orion VII "NG" Body Damaged Fleet |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Wed Nov 18 22:26:22 2009 I can't help but notice there is an ever increasing # of Orion VII NG's with body damage, especially to the left side. Some of these buses are only weeks and months old. Most notibly are the Kingsbridge fleet, with 4400, 4404, Stengal, 4175 just to mention a few, i spotted in a matter of 5 minutes this afternoon.Is the the quality of the material Orion is using, or are operators just having more incidents. I know in staten island at least 30% of the new fleet has some damage, most notibly to the left rear of bus. The MTA cannot let this happen to its newest buses, but something tells me its more than the drivers. It must be something with the design of the rear, maybe pertruding out more? I don't know, all I know is the number of times I have to get a bus signed off for damage is drastically growing. |
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Re: Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet |
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Posted by daimlerbuses on Thu Nov 19 00:44:57 2009, in response to Orion VII "NG" Body Damaged Fleet, posted by MTA_SI on Wed Nov 18 22:26:22 2009. I highly doubt Orion would use a cheaper material as the side panels have to be rated at a certain level (crash worthiness) and also the fact that there is no "different" material to use - it's either Aluminum and fiberglass in one thickness - changing that would likely mean some design issues.However, yes I notice the NG's do protrude a bit more at the rear, maybe that does have a impact on the situation you describe. Out of curiosity, what does this "body damage" look like? |
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Re: Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Thu Nov 19 00:48:54 2009, in response to Re: Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet, posted by daimlerbuses on Thu Nov 19 00:44:57 2009. I lot of "popped" panels on the sides below the blue stripe, numberous large scrapes/dents around left rear lights and corner moldings. Also alot of the left sides, where there is black below the rear windows have "pings/ bullet looking marks lol". I'll try to get some pics tommorow in the depot. |
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Re: Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Nov 19 04:27:05 2009, in response to Orion VII "NG" Body Damaged Fleet, posted by MTA_SI on Wed Nov 18 22:26:22 2009. I think that operators are just sloppy and faster buses eat them. SI MCIs tend to have a fair amount of damage as well for that reason. I notice that a lot of private companies have the same problem with regards to faster, more powerful buses getting more damage.Frankly, the MTA needs to go with DriveCam in every bus and solve that issue. I am certain that stimulus funds can be procured for that. |
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Re: Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Thu Nov 19 09:17:05 2009, in response to Re: Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet, posted by JAzumah on Thu Nov 19 04:27:05 2009. I’m going to concur that it’s quite likely a driver issue. As a long-time observer of Boston’s MBTA, I’ve seen numerous examples of a certain bus model receiving repetitive damage at one garage while the same buses at another garage exhibit little of the same damage. |
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Re: Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet |
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Posted by busdude2 on Thu Nov 19 17:50:28 2009, in response to Re: Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet, posted by RailBus63 on Thu Nov 19 09:17:05 2009. That sounds like bad locations those buses from that garage were going. If they are getting damage often. Like in Staten Island when the buses were bottoming out and such. |
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(Photo) Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet |
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Posted by MTA_SI on Sat Nov 21 09:48:43 2009, in response to Orion VII "NG" Body Damaged Fleet, posted by MTA_SI on Wed Nov 18 22:26:22 2009. This is only 3 pics of so many i could post all with similiar areas of damage. Without too much detail 4 out every 10 buses in Yukon and Castleton have damage here, and Kingsbridge is not far behind.  
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Re: (Photo) Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet |
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Posted by NJT Oradell on Sat Nov 21 16:00:48 2009, in response to (Photo) Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Nov 21 09:48:43 2009. Looks like swing out damage from turning right while too close on the left to something like a garage door frame. We get "stripes" like that at the PABT from parking too close to the guard rails and bumpers that protect the walls. |
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Re: (Photo) Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Nov 21 18:22:07 2009, in response to (Photo) Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet, posted by MTA_SI on Sat Nov 21 09:48:43 2009. Damn, that's a shame...Nice pics. |
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Re: Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Sun Nov 22 11:02:28 2009, in response to Re: Orion VII ''NG'' Body Damaged Fleet, posted by busdude2 on Thu Nov 19 17:50:28 2009. The damage on the MBTA buses is always in the rear sides of the buses, suggesting that the drivers aren't clearing the rear end and are hitting some sort of object. |
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