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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by 33rd Street on Tue Jun 30 14:53:16 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by R32_3671 on Tue Jun 30 09:16:14 2009.

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Last time I checked, MTA Bus WILL NOT get any Designline Hybrids.

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by brightonr68 on Tue Jun 30 16:16:39 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by 33rd Street on Tue Jun 30 14:53:16 2009.

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what type of fuel will the desigmline use

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by busdude2 on Tue Jun 30 16:22:59 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by GOLD_12th on Mon Jun 29 20:07:50 2009.

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Thanks for the info !

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by aznboy4305 on Tue Jun 30 16:34:50 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by SJP7121 on Tue Jun 30 03:11:36 2009.

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Uhh...about 80% of all transit buses in the U.S. have cords, they hold up a LOT better than the pushstrips, and they're easier and cheaper to fix.

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue Jun 30 16:54:32 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by RailBus63 on Mon Jun 29 19:38:41 2009.

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The RTS' destination sign is unreadable during a snowstorm, you can read sign on the Orions becasue they are flat.

I have a feeling that during a snowstorm the front sign on these Designerliners will also be unreadable, but we'll see when the time comes.

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue Jun 30 16:55:38 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jun 29 21:24:14 2009.

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I read in the NY Daily News they are 42' long.

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Tue Jun 30 16:58:54 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by brightonr68 on Tue Jun 30 16:16:39 2009.

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I believe they're Hybrids

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by brightonr68 on Tue Jun 30 17:40:42 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Tue Jun 30 16:58:54 2009.

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they have a turbine. Does the turbine use diesel or CNG

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jun 30 18:17:06 2009, in response to PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by rionOne on Mon Jun 29 12:34:50 2009.

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Excellent photos!

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by GOLD_12th on Tue Jun 30 18:56:25 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by brightonr68 on Tue Jun 30 17:40:42 2009.

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Diesel fuel on the Designline bus. Designline, currently does not offer CNG.

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by GOLD_12th on Tue Jun 30 18:57:05 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Tue Jun 30 16:58:54 2009.

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Diesel electric hybrid to be exact.

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Wed Jul 1 00:06:08 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jun 30 10:28:38 2009.

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Phoenix's latest configuration is the reverse. All lenghthwise seating in the low floor section and two rows of 2 X 2 forward facing seats in the high floor section.

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Jul 1 01:11:08 2009, in response to PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by rionOne on Mon Jun 29 12:34:50 2009.

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Now I see why they call it "The smiley bus".

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Jul 1 12:40:15 2009, in response to PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by rionOne on Mon Jun 29 12:34:50 2009.

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Nice...but still with steel wheels :(.

Interestingly enough, the back lights are different - and MTA started the high rear indicator trend that WMATA started 14 years ago!

What are the "holes" in the top of the rear of the bus? Dual exhaust?

Anyway, it seems to be pretty cool. My only gripe is that in the low floor section, the windows are a little high to peer out of, like Gillig Low Floors. Otherwise, nifty!

I can't wait to see these in service.

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jul 1 21:33:39 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 30 02:21:22 2009.

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sadly :(

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Jul 2 15:52:42 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by RiverLINE3501 on Mon Jun 29 21:10:59 2009.

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Nice Bus! This is what an updated RTS should look like.

Maybe SEPTA will break it's New Flyer monopoly and check out this bus.


Maybe they will if New Flyer started making them, but even that would be a stretch considering the circumstances (a 198-something design being produced in 2008-2012 when more modern designs are available).

I would love to see SEPTA try these, though.

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by Pablo M 201 on Fri Jul 3 09:48:45 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by SJP7121 on Tue Jun 30 04:02:05 2009.

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To provide more spaces for standees (you have more capacity to fit more people with a 2x1 seating configuration).

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 3 10:23:00 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Wed Jul 1 00:06:08 2009.

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In NYC, it changed in the previous O7 order starting with the 101st bus of the order; the first 100 buses had 2x2 seating, but the other 400 have transverse seating.

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Fri Jul 3 12:34:18 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 3 10:23:00 2009.

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I was curious about that. At first I thought it was a NYCT vs. MTA Bus thing (as the MTA Bus Orion VIIs had the transverse seating but the NYCT buses I was on had 2x2).

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 3 12:42:02 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Fri Jul 3 12:34:18 2009.

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From the 2006-2007 order (where it changed), 6690-6739 and 3500-3549 are the 100 with the 2 x 2 seating; 6740 was the first bus in the order with the new seating pattern in the rear.

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 3 13:32:38 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 3 12:42:02 2009.

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It never should have been changed. The new seating pattern is a disgrace.

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Fri Jul 3 14:01:36 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 3 12:42:02 2009.

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Question. What was the first bus that started the different flooring?

There are 2 types of the OrionVII,(1) The Black-glittered flooring(found on the 6500's), and the black /w white speck flooring plus ridges(found on the 6800's). Was it 6689 to 6690?

I appreciate any info, this question has been stuck in me for a long time.



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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Fri Jul 3 14:02:29 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 3 12:42:02 2009.

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Question. What was the first bus that started the different flooring?

There are 2 types on the OrionVII,(1) The Black-glittered flooring(found on the 6500's), (2) and the black /w white speck flooring plus ridges(found on the 6800's). Was it 6689 to 6690?

I appreciate any info, this question has been stuck in me for a long time.



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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Jul 3 14:25:31 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Fri Jul 3 14:01:36 2009.

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6690 was the first bus of the 500-bus order.

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Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots...

Posted by Sid from NJ on Sat Jul 4 08:16:33 2009, in response to Re: PHOTOS: The Designline with Interior & Cockpit Shots..., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 3 13:32:38 2009.

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[It never should have been changed. The new seating pattern is a disgrace.]

I had heard that the change in the rear seating pattern of VII's was safety-related. With the old 2X2 pattern, the first rows of rear seats were more susceptible to falls because of their proximity to the stairs. Making the seats longitudinal supposedly decreases the chances of a fall while sitting down or getting up.

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