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Posted by The TransitMan on Tue May 12 12:05:49 2009, in response to Current CDTA Roster, posted by Busrider on Tue May 12 11:28:15 2009. Thanks for posting the roster. "Busrider" can you e-mail me at NYCTMCID4500@aol.com? Want to ask you something. |
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Posted by ctrabs74 on Tue May 12 16:40:25 2009, in response to Current CDTA Roster, posted by Busrider on Tue May 12 11:28:15 2009. I know that the Hyrbids are Gilligs, but I can't seem to get the other series of CDTA buses straight. For those of us (okay, that would probably be most of us) not as familiar, could you point out which series is which (ie. NABI, Nova, Orion, etc)? |
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Posted by Dr. Casca on Tue May 12 18:57:33 2009, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by ctrabs74 on Tue May 12 16:40:25 2009. I know the 2000s are Orion VIs, the lower 9900s and 3000s are two generations of Nova LFS, the 3100s are 30-foot Gilligs, the 4000s are 40-foot Gilligs, and the upper 9900s are NABI 35-LFWs. I don't know where the cutoff in the 9900s is... |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Tue May 12 20:40:58 2009, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by ctrabs74 on Tue May 12 16:40:25 2009. Orion VI's: 2000'sNova LFS: 9901-9959 (1999) and 3000's (2000) NABI 35LFW's: 9961-9984 40' Gilligs: 4000's 30' Gilligs: 3100's Save for the 9900's and the 3100's, it's been a part of a near-sequential series going back to CDTA's inception. |
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Posted by busway flyer on Wed May 13 07:22:32 2009, in response to Current CDTA Roster, posted by Busrider on Tue May 12 11:28:15 2009. Much appreciate posting of CDTA roster.Does anyone has roster info on the MCI's and/or cutaways? Thanks; Charlie-BFTA |
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Posted by Busrider on Wed May 13 09:59:06 2009, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by busway flyer on Wed May 13 07:22:32 2009. For CDTA? |
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Posted by Busrider on Wed May 13 10:09:22 2009, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Scrabbleship on Tue May 12 20:40:58 2009. The entire fleet is143,151-158,160,168,174,177 Cutways 200-234 STAR (no bus 226) 320-324 Upstate Tours MCI 325H Upstate Tours Gillig 400-412 Shuttle Buses (400-401 Ford,409-412 New IRide Flex) 2000-2102 Orion VI (not in order due to 20 buses being retired) 3100-3115H Gillig 30' (3100-3107 Saratoga Service,3108H-3115H Hybrid) 4000-4047H Gillig 40' (4008H-4047H are Hybrid,4008H-4019H BRT Style) 9901-9944,9951-9959 Nova LFS 9961-9983 NABI Trolleys 595 897 2299 6 New Shuttles and 5 new STAR waitng on arrival to replace cutways. |
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Posted by CapitalCruiser on Wed May 13 22:05:55 2009, in response to Current CDTA Roster, posted by Busrider on Tue May 12 11:28:15 2009. Some corrections:2022 Recent Repaint 2011 Out of Service 2006 Out of Service 9911 Out of Service-Recent Repaint (probably engine?) 326H is on the property-to go to Upstate (Gillig BRT Hybrid Suburban) 4028H-4034H are on the property-Being Prep'd for service 4035H-4047H-not delivered yet |
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Posted by busway flyer on Thu May 14 08:31:58 2009, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Busrider on Wed May 13 10:09:22 2009. Can someone provide the breakdown for the following; including year model, make and size?100 series cutaways 200 series, what is STAR? A type of service? Trolleys 595 897 2299 Lastly, what types of 6 New Shuttles and 5 new STAR are waiting on arrival? Thanks; Charlie - BFTA |
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Posted by Busrider on Thu May 14 09:55:29 2009, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by CapitalCruiser on Wed May 13 22:05:55 2009. 2022 has been repainted a couple months now. Is 2006 and 2011 out of service for good as in retired? Didn't know about 9911. I was told last night 4 are being for Troy Divison and only used on night runs. I didn't know about 326H never seen it before nor 325H. As for the new buses for Shuttles and STAR I have no idea. The 100 series are ford and chevy cutways and 200 are eldoardos.Trolleys are molly trolley 2001. |
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Posted by CapitalCruiser on Thu May 14 10:42:15 2009, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Busrider on Thu May 14 09:55:29 2009. 2006 and 2011 look like they are done. I'll get the rest of the numbers which are OOS and parked in the back. 9911 will probably be repaired.325H and 326H are for the Northway Express. I see one on Wolf Road all the time and 326H was delivered last week to CDTA ALbany. They use to park the hybrid and some MCI's down at the Port of Albany truck stop, but, haven't seen them there lately. The shuttles are a mix of older International with Coach & Equipment bodies, 2 newer Internationals, and quite a few GMC/Chevrolet with Eldorado and Star Trans bodies. All the STAR (Special Transit Available by Request) is their Para-Transit Division. They operate mostly older Ford E350 Coach & Equip. bodies as well as newer Ford E350/E450 Star Trans. diesels, but the new Star buses delivered last year are Ford E350 Star Trans. Gas engines. The trolley's are rarely if ever used and if they are, they go to Saratoga. Saratoga also will be getting a new CDTA Garage to accomodate all the Saratoga routes. Look for Upstate Transit to run it! |
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Posted by Busrider on Thu May 14 11:06:09 2009, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by CapitalCruiser on Thu May 14 10:42:15 2009. Yea thanks numbers will be appreciated cause CDTA told me no buses have been retired yet. The trolleys are used for I don't know now but I do know 897 is strictly Route 870 Saratoga Rural don't know about 595 and 2299 being Altamont Fair doesn't use trolleys anymore. The STAR buses are strictly 200-234. When is the Saratoga Division plan to open? |
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Posted by CapitalCruiser on Thu May 14 11:51:29 2009, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Busrider on Thu May 14 11:06:09 2009. CDTA Lied, those buses have been retired since the CDTA Logo and their license plates have been removed. There's also several others, seen them personally yesterday as a good friend and I went on a hunt for buses.I believe Saratoga will open sometime next year possibly. |
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Posted by Busrider on Fri May 15 09:13:10 2009, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by CapitalCruiser on Thu May 14 11:51:29 2009. What were the other numbers? |
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Posted by Busrider on Tue May 19 10:09:30 2009, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Busrider on Fri May 15 09:13:10 2009. What were the other numbers? |
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Posted by OCTD 2039 on Sat Jul 30 19:43:51 2016, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Busrider on Tue May 19 10:09:30 2009. Get back here you idiot! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 31 11:57:36 2016, in response to Current CDTA Roster, posted by Busrider on Tue May 12 11:28:15 2009. I seriously paid attention to what was going on at CDTA..ONCE.Now,I dont even care.. Once i found out WHY THEY CANCELLED THE LRT LINES..that was more than enough for me. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jul 31 13:17:42 2016, in response to Current CDTA Roster, posted by Busrider on Tue May 12 11:28:15 2009. I used to work on Green Island , in the early 1960's. Some day i should go back up to that area and see what's going on,:) |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Aug 1 11:54:51 2016, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 31 11:57:36 2016. I'd heard it was just some dumb ass who stood up at a meeting and said "herp-derp buses cheaper!!", was there something more to it than that?CDTA needs to follow through with their bus lanes for BRT. Yes it would require taking a row of car dealership parking on either side of route 5, boo-hoo. Should have thought of that when they widened NY5 over the old trolley tracks. |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Mon Aug 1 13:26:28 2016, in response to Current CDTA Roster, posted by Busrider on Tue May 12 11:28:15 2009. Weren't artics somewhere in that mix? |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Aug 1 14:13:40 2016, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by r17-6599 on Mon Aug 1 13:26:28 2016. That list is from 2009. The XD60's didn't arrive until last year. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Aug 2 20:24:01 2016, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Aug 1 14:13:40 2016. And we still frustratingly only have two... was hoping by now the 1, 12, and 22 would be converted to Artics... |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Aug 3 07:20:06 2016, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Aug 2 20:24:01 2016. It was a gradual deal, 20 artics over 4-5 years. Which sounds weak on the surface but makes sense in a way since the latest Gillig contract is up after this year and this order probably will be the end of the LFS's.Since outside the NFTA nobody upstate wants to touch Nova with a 10-foot pole, CDTA is probably biding their time to add capacity since 2019 is the probable earliest they can retire the earliest Gilligs from 2007. |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Wed Aug 3 09:06:29 2016, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Aug 3 07:20:06 2016. What's the Nova issue? 'Specially now that NYCT found them favorable. Can U be specific? We downstaters are curious. |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Aug 3 10:48:20 2016, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by r17-6599 on Wed Aug 3 09:06:29 2016. Just that nobody really wants to buy from them. Centro signed a deal with Gillig, RGRTA signed a deal with New Flyer, BC Transit seems to be content with buying secondhand rather than find someone to replace Orion. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Aug 3 12:13:10 2016, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Aug 3 10:48:20 2016. From what I hear , our SEPTA bus drivers don't really like our Novas, the 60 Ft. Artics and the 40 Ft. models. I don't know specifically what the issues are, but , I know the next SEPTA bus purchase will be New Flyer.Here is a photo of a SEPTA Nova arctic. Nova Arctic |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Aug 3 12:34:57 2016, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Aug 3 12:13:10 2016. The LFS is a good looking bus but it seems like they've had difficulty getting solid orders since restarting US operations. |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Wed Aug 3 14:17:19 2016, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Aug 3 12:34:57 2016. Maybe, but I'm no expert. Good looking bus, a design that rivals the GM fishbowl in longevity. What's good for one agency is another's poison. I always say they get what they pay for (or spec out). |
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Posted by pragmatist on Wed Aug 3 19:50:31 2016, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Aug 3 12:34:57 2016. Chicago, NY, SEPTA and NY Artic represented a lot of units |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Aug 3 22:49:26 2016, in response to Re: Current CDTA Roster, posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Aug 3 10:48:20 2016. The version CDTA has, has unworkable AC *and* windows which may as well not open. Unworkable meaning, even when the AC is fully functioning, the rear part of the bus is always hot because the engine compartment is one of those 1/3rd width ones in the main passenger cabin. While it's nice that they have a view out the back window, these buses should be banned from service when the temperature is > 90. People always open the windows, which open only 1.5 inches, just enough for the cool air from the front to go right out but not enough to actually create a breeze, then the AC unit breaks making a bad situation worse.Some people will dig out the stopper for the windows, then you can get a nice breeze if you luck into one of those. Otherwise, this bus is hell in the summer. |
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