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Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Oct 25 02:30:43 2008

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Data is taken some time at the end of August 2008. Published in Sept / Oct 2008 issue.

Still the leader: MTA New York City Transit...... 4,548... (- 49 buses, a year ago)

Surprising in 2nd place: PACE in Chicago....2,647... (+ 1076; rank 7th last year)

3rd: Metro, LA.....2,635... (-51)

4th: New Jersey Transit.....2,347 ... (-728; rank 2nd last year)

5th: CTA, Chicago....2,117... (-83)

6th: TTC..... 1,653

7th: Montreal..... 1,595

8th: WMATA..... 1,501

9th: King Co. DOT/Metro Transit in Seattle..... 1,429

10th: SEPTA..... 1,369
11th: MTA Bus (NYC) ...... 1,361
12th: Coast Mountain Bus Co in Vancouver..... 1,342
13th: Houston METRO ..... 1,219
14th: Valley Metro (Phoenix) ..... 1,157
15th: OC Transpo ..... 1,099
16th: RTD in Denver ..... 1,062
17th: MBTA ..... 1,023
18th: MTA Maryland ..... 977
19th: Miami Dade TA ..... 924

20th: OCTA (CA) ..... 920
21: ETS - Edmonton, Canada ..... 906
22: Calgary ...... 902
23: Metro (Minneapolis) .....898
24: Tri-County MTD (Portland) ..... 887
25: PA (Pittsburgh) ..... 861
26: BC Transit ..... 837
27: MUNI ..... 836
28: DART (Dallas) ..... 740
29: Greater Cleveland RTA ..... 714

30: MTS San Diego ..... 699
31: RTC in Las Vegas ...... 685
32: Utah TA..... 641
33: AC Transit ..... 632
34: MARTA ...... 601
35: Suburban Mobility Authority for RT Detroit ..... 590
36: Honolulu ...... 564
37: Santa Clara Valley TA ....563
38: Winnipeg TS ..... 535
39: Detroit DOT ...... 512

40: Milwaukee County TS ...... 484
41: SW Ohio RTA ...... 448
42: VIA MT San Antonio ..... 434
42: Delaware Transit ..... 434
44: MTA Long Island Bus ..... 420
45: Capital Metro Austin ...... 418
46: Metro St. Louis ..... 411
47: RGRTA (Rochester, NY) ..... 402
48: CT Transit ...... 401
49: LADOT ...... 396

50: Mississauga Transit ...... 393
51: Broward Co Transit (Florida) ..... 388
52: Montgomery Co Transit (Maryland) ..... 375
53: GO Transit ..... 363
54: WDOT Bee Line ..... 357
55: Hampton Roads Transit (Virgina) ..... 347
56: Pierce Transit ...... 345
57: TA of River City (Kentucky)..... 344
58: Charlotte ATS ..... 342
59: Niagara Frontier TA ..... 337

60: San Mateo County TD ..... 335
61: Metropolitan Bus Authority (San Juan, P. R.) ..... 335
62: Reseau de transport de Longueulll Quebec ...... 325
63: COTA (Ohio) ..... 322
64: Community Transit (Washington) ..... 317
65: Foothill Transit ..... 314
66: CDTA (Albany, NY) ..... 309
67: Kansas City ATA ..... 301
68: LYNX Orlando ..... 290
69: Halifax Metro Transit ..... 282

70: Memphis ATA ..... 281
71: Jacksonville TA (Florida) ..... 280
72: RIPTA ..... 277
73: Societe de Transport de I'Outaouais City Quebec ..... 268
74: Omnitrans ..... 267
75: Central NY RTA ..... 261
76: Sacramento RTD ..... 253
77: Sound Transit (Washington) ..... 238
78: Long Beach Transit (CA)..... 228
79: Toledo ARTA ..... 219

80: Fairfax Connector, FCDOT ..... 215
81: Hamilton Street Railway ..... 209
82: Pinellas Suncoast TA (Clearwater, FL) ..... 205
83: Madison MT ..... 204
84: Sun Tran ..... 203
85: Golden Gate Transit ..... 200
86: Big Blue Bus ..... 196
87: London Transit Commission (Canada) ..... 192
88: Hillsborough ARTA (Tampa) ..... 187
88: MRTA (Akron, Ohio) ..... 187

90: GDRTA (Dayton, Ohio) .... 181
91: SATCO/VATCO (Mass.) ..... 179
92: Kitsap Transit (Washington) ..... 173
93: Greater Hartford TD (CT) ..... 167 (unranked last year)
94: GRTC TS (Richmond, VA) .... 158
95: North County TD (Oceanside, CA) ..... 155
96: Des Monies ART ..... 153 (unranked last year)
97: RTA New Orleans ..... 152
98: IndyGO (Indianapolis) ..... 150
98: ABQ Ride .... 150
100: MTA Flint Mich. ..... 146

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Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by Houston METRO Fan on Sat Oct 25 02:56:29 2008, in response to Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008, posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Oct 25 02:30:43 2008.

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At least we're in the Top 15. WHOO-HOO!

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Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by kcram3500 on Sat Oct 25 09:31:41 2008, in response to Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008, posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Oct 25 02:30:43 2008.

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NJT is obviously a recalculation, subtracting the buses they lease to private operations. They still own all those buses, they just don't operate them.

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Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by Scrabbleship on Sat Oct 25 09:55:43 2008, in response to Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008, posted by kcram3500 on Sat Oct 25 09:31:41 2008.

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I wonder what got into PACE to have a rise that much in so short time, especially with Illinois' constant transit woes.

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Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by ABQ RIDE on Sat Oct 25 11:07:42 2008, in response to Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008, posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Oct 25 02:30:43 2008.

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ABQ RIDE made the list, however, the correct number for ABQ RIDE is 152. Soon the number will increase as ABQ RIDE is adding 6 New Flyer DE60LFs for the Rapid Ride routes. ABQ RIDE also has 32 DE40LFRs on order, but it is yet to be seen whether these buses will be used for added service or will be used to replace some older buses (such as the Neoplans and Thomases).

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Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by JAzumah on Sat Oct 25 11:26:43 2008, in response to Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008, posted by Scrabbleship on Sat Oct 25 09:55:43 2008.

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Vanpools?

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Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 14:16:45 2008, in response to Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008, posted by JAzumah on Sat Oct 25 11:26:43 2008.

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Or maybe some consolidation where they took over an existing paratransit or maybe school services.

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Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by RailBus63 on Sun Oct 26 00:09:30 2008, in response to Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008, posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Oct 25 02:30:43 2008.

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48: CT Transit ...... 401

93: Greater Hartford TD (CT) ..... 167

???

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Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Oct 26 00:12:59 2008, in response to Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008, posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Oct 25 02:30:43 2008.

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I wonder if the MTA part will be recognized as MTA Regional Bus next year (under 3 different brands), which has 6,251 (based on the NTD figures which can't be accessed at the moment).

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Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Oct 26 01:55:24 2008, in response to Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008, posted by RailBus63 on Sun Oct 26 00:09:30 2008.

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Isn't "Greater Hartford Transit District" a paratransit operation? I know that the Greater New Haven Transit District is.

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Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by Massbusmark on Sun Oct 26 05:50:27 2008, in response to Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008, posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Oct 26 01:55:24 2008.

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I believe Greater Hartford Transit is strictly paratransit.

Mark

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Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by BusMgr on Sun Oct 26 12:56:40 2008, in response to Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008, posted by kcram3500 on Sat Oct 25 09:31:41 2008.

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NJT is obviously a recalculation, subtracting the buses they lease to private operations. They still own all those buses, they just don't operate them.

If true then not a good decision from Metro. Were that to be the case then many other transit systems would have their numbers decrease, some to zero. For example, Westchester DOT operates zero buses, yet they place at no. 54 with 357 buses. Operators such as MV and First Transit would zoom up the list and several transit systems would no longer be there. I think the list is supposed to show "control" by transit systems, not necessarily "operation" by transit systems, so contract fleets should be listed as part of the transit systems and not part of the contract operators' systems. Perhaps Metro should edit the list more closely.

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Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Oct 26 15:45:10 2008, in response to Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 25 14:16:45 2008.

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CTA is down 83, wonder if PACE picked up a CTA route or two.

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Re: Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Oct 26 15:49:04 2008, in response to Metro Magazine's Top 100 Transit Bus Fleet list in 2008, posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Oct 25 02:30:43 2008.

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Broward County Transit has shot up in the last few years (used to be well under 200), but the numbers are misleading, as they now purchase the local community buses for various Broward County cities. Even though they are painted up for the local cities, BCt buys them (for better economies of scale, I guess) and may own them, as the ones I've seen have county license plates instead of city that they used to have. They also apply their own numbers (usually MYYXX, with YY being the last 2 numberts of the year ordered), alongside whatever numbers the city in question. I think the cities actually operate their communities buses (either in-house or contractor). The actual number of buses that BCt runs on their own routes is just over 300.

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