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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Jul 27 10:18:37 2008, in response to It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jul 26 13:10:32 2008. Most of what I have to say about this, I've already said or others here have said it in this thread. But in summary my take is that express service should, ***in general***, be kept, for purposes of ADA accessibility and to lure a few extra people away from their cars to lessen pollution and avoid congestion.Having said that, many express routes can do with restructuring and rescheduling. I'll use the BM4, the route I'm probably most familiar with, as an example. On Saturday, this route used to have 3 round trips for the whole day. Now, it is hourly from 7AM-6PM northbound and 8:30AM-7:30PM southbound. Wouldn't it be better to spread service out so instead of having hourly service ending before Saturday night really sets in, to instead have service running every 90 minutes and end at around midnight? It would entail the same number of runs but each run would likely have more people. I don't think that current riders would abandon because service was changed from 60 to 90 minute intervals as most if not all riders look at the schedule and will only wait 5-10 minutes for the bus anyway. I think other express runs can be rescheduled in this way. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 27 10:54:56 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by ClearAspect on Sun Jul 27 09:57:14 2008. Are you sure on that, however? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 27 10:55:42 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by mci guy on Sun Jul 27 07:56:05 2008. As far as the paratransit fleet is concerned, I'm guessing there must be at least 1600 vans and 350 Crown Vics. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Jul 27 12:20:47 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 27 00:13:48 2008. It's called a car. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 27 12:24:32 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Jul 27 12:20:47 2008. However, there are persons who use express buses SOLELY because the subway is not an option owing to inaccessibility either at the start or the end point, but who have been denied paratransit or are not eligible for the service. It isn't as few as you think.These people would use the subway if physical disabilities didn't preclude its use. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Jul 27 12:26:35 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 27 12:24:32 2008. Forest Glen asked about a "faster and more comfortable form of transportation". To which I responded that a car is the most comfortable form of transportation that's possible.I don't deny that there are people using express buses because of accessibility issues. I think that paratransit qualifications need to be liberalized a bit if that's the case. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 27 12:34:58 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jul 26 23:14:18 2008. The Q64 isn't that crowded...and it rarely leaves customers behind anymore since takeover. |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Sun Jul 27 13:02:04 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 27 00:15:49 2008. My question: Why so many people on a single route? Do the passengers actually live next to the bus stops or are they driving from other parts of the borough to park and ride the bus which runs frequent? Those people who ride the QM1 do not all live on Union Tnpke. |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Sun Jul 27 13:08:32 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Jul 27 12:26:35 2008. What is this whole disability issue? If someone needs to go from Bronx to Brooklyn, what good is an express bus anyway. An express bus doesn't provide door to door service even if someone travels from Bronx to Manhattan. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Sun Jul 27 13:38:22 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by 7trainkrys on Sun Jul 27 13:02:04 2008. A majority do live right along the route or a block or two off Union,73rd or HH Expwy. No one that I know of parks and rides the QM1A. The QM1A has 3 different routings in Queens. NST is where a bulk of the Union QM1A's riders get on/off, the rest come from E. of Bell. The G/O bus gets most of its riders E. of 188th St, but only 30 people (est.) use it S. of 65th Av.IT's just more convient to walk 2-3 blocks to get to the QM1A take it straight to Midtown then the slow Q30 or Q46 and the (E). |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Jul 27 13:43:25 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Jul 26 22:41:50 2008. He didn't say eliminate them all. He said eliminate the ones that don't make sense, or combine some routes. |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Sun Jul 27 14:28:50 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Sun Jul 27 13:38:22 2008. I have personally driven to take the QM1 DOWNTOWN because no other route provides this destination from eastern Queens. Some ridership comes from this. People park at the Utopia and 168th Street stops. As for the 6th Ave bus, I pretty sure it's 99% local unless someone lives in Nassau. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Sun Jul 27 14:42:37 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by 7trainkrys on Sun Jul 27 14:28:50 2008. The last time I checked there are 6 QM1A buses (2 Super Expresses) from Glen Oaks that go Downtown.But, what do you mean by it's 99% local? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 27 14:47:27 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by 7trainkrys on Sun Jul 27 13:08:32 2008. However...one can make a transfer on an express bus. |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Sun Jul 27 15:03:58 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Sun Jul 27 14:42:37 2008. residents. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 27 15:28:09 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 27 12:34:58 2008. The line at Forest Hills during the PM Rush is really long, thankfully though there are usually two buses loading at the same time.You know, I think that it's time that the Q64 got extended to Fresh Meadows. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Jul 27 16:54:06 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by R30A on Sat Jul 26 14:08:54 2008. Express buses should cost an amount relative to what they cost the TA to provide.Or at least no worse than present. I wonder whether it would be less loss-making to run express sections as extensions of local buses at local fares. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Jul 27 17:14:19 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Jul 27 13:43:25 2008. I'm all in favor of those ideas. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Jul 27 17:15:40 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Operator3319 on Sun Jul 27 04:06:18 2008. Good point. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Jul 27 17:40:04 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Jul 27 12:20:47 2008. It's called a car.Or a taxi. I bet some taxi firms would offer a good rate to cover paratransit. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Jul 27 17:43:47 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by ClearAspect on Sun Jul 27 09:57:14 2008. SI people don't want a subway everytime subways are brought up SI whine and cry, they dont want a direct link yet they want better service.Well, SI couldn't justify a subway on its own. An S-Bahn-like line from NJ to Manhattan via SI and Brooklyn would probably make the numbers work better, reduce the number of expensive stations, and flatter the sort of SI-ers who talk about "those people". |
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Posted by mci guy on Sun Jul 27 20:07:10 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Jul 27 17:40:04 2008. they already do and your taxes are paying a fortune for it , much more than express bus service. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 27 20:25:35 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by R30A on Sat Jul 26 14:08:54 2008. I agree with this post. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 27 20:27:45 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 27 00:13:48 2008. people should have the option of riding a faster and more comfortable form of transportation.No they shouldn't, but if they do, I, like others here, believe that they should be charged a fare relative to the cost to provide the service. Not some super heavily disproportionally subsidized fare of $5. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 27 20:28:27 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Forest Glen on Sat Jul 26 23:56:27 2008. no you haven't. one element that is vital that you haven't agreed to is charging a much higher fare. |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Jul 27 20:34:18 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 27 20:28:27 2008. Why don't you just ingore his posts like you do to ron? |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Sun Jul 27 20:35:43 2008, in response to It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jul 26 13:10:32 2008. I think some of the express buses in Queens, the Bronx, and Brooklyn are redundant. Especially those that run near LIRR stations.I'd like to see the express buses shifted toward reverse direction LIRR service. An Over The Road coach is overkill for travel from the boroughs to Manhattan, with the exception of SI. Unlike city commuters (which have a choice between LIRR, MNRR, Local bus and subway, or express bus) most long island commuters have to rely on the LIRR for travel between Nassau and Suffolk. And those few reverse peak trains that run are packed. There is a need for supplimental service, and that can be provided by using the Over the Road fleet for that service. Being that additional tracks aren't coming anytime soon, I think it's time to shift most MTA Bus express routes over to Long Island. Especially now that MTA Bus, NYCT, and LI Bus are all under the same management. Heck they can even charge $15 for express buses to the Hamptons. It's STILL much cheaper than the Jitney. The LIRR and HJ is not cutting it for folks traveling out east for work and pleasure. HJ is expensive, LIRR has lousy schedules for travel out east and is unreliable, like currently there's disruptions in service on the Montauk branch. Must be chaos. And the only other choice is HJ, which is probably all booked up anyway. NJT manages to run express routes deep into NJ, so why not? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 27 20:38:56 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Jul 27 20:34:18 2008. Because I think Forest Glen may have some hope left. And Forest Glen is nothing like Ron, thankfully. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Sun Jul 27 20:40:07 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 27 20:27:45 2008. Get rid of the express buses and they have a choice, it's called a cab. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 27 20:44:49 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Ken S. on Sun Jul 27 20:40:07 2008. No. The have subway to local bus or railroad to local bus. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Jul 27 21:33:57 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 27 00:13:48 2008. Uhh, no |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Jul 27 21:35:05 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Ken S. on Sun Jul 27 20:40:07 2008. Or drive. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sun Jul 27 22:17:22 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by R40SlantontheB on Sun Jul 27 20:35:43 2008. "I'd like to see the express buses shifted toward reverse direction LIRR service."Who's paying? NYC? No thanks. "An Over The Road coach is overkill for travel from the boroughs to Manhattan, with the exception of SI." There are no transit buses that seat 57 passengers. They are overkill structurally, but it is the capacity that is sorely needed to keep express bus costs in check. Now, they need to rework the schedules to use the extra seats. Buses should be scheduled for a 45 passenger load, not 35 passengers. "Heck they can even charge $15 for express buses to the Hamptons. It's STILL much cheaper than the Jitney." The Jitney does not need taxpayer funds. The users pay for everything. "The LIRR and HJ is not cutting it for folks traveling out east for work and pleasure. HJ is expensive, LIRR has lousy schedules for travel out east and is unreliable, like currently there's disruptions in service on the Montauk branch. Must be chaos. And the only other choice is HJ, which is probably all booked up anyway." Hampton Jitney is not expensive for their target market. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sun Jul 27 22:18:37 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by R30A on Sun Jul 27 01:15:33 2008. All expresses aren't created equal. Some do need a subsidy. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jul 27 22:22:15 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 27 20:44:49 2008. And those who are unable to use the subway? |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Sun Jul 27 22:22:33 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by JAzumah on Sun Jul 27 22:17:22 2008. What about all the folks that work out there in Suffolk? They cant afford HJ's ridiculous prices. |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Sun Jul 27 23:01:26 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 27 20:44:49 2008. Okay, so in a hypothetical situation, let's say MTA did cut the QM1A. How are all those people getting to the city from Queens? getting on a Q46 for a 45 min. ride to the Qns Blvd Lines which are already over capacity?And forget about getting to the LIRR out there. Between 6 and 8 am there are 4 N/B Q79's and 3 S/B. And even if you time it correctly to catch the S/B bus you still have to walk from Jamaica to the Floral Park STA. Just leave the express buses alone. You can't put any more people on most of the main subway lines. |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Sun Jul 27 23:13:54 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Sun Jul 27 23:01:26 2008. You mean to tell me those people in NST (which is essentially Nassau County) don't have private cars. Why does the Q79 run so infrequent? They would first consider driving to the LIRR or other rail transit if parking is an issue. Personally I think these private building complexes should subsidize their own buses to bring people to Manhattan and work the fees into the tenants maintenance bills. |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Sun Jul 27 23:17:30 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by 7trainkrys on Sun Jul 27 23:13:54 2008. And I even pulled into NST parking on one occasion asking if I can park my vehicle and use the bus from the first stop to go Downtown because a lot of the buses are full after 188 St. They were jerks and said "no" so f'em. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Sun Jul 27 23:28:59 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Jul 26 15:21:52 2008. ROUND UP ALL THE D4500s AND SET THEM ABLAZE!Nah, send them to NJT, they'll know what to do with them..... One thing is cranking up the jake brake on those babies! |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Sun Jul 27 23:47:11 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by 7trainkrys on Sun Jul 27 23:13:54 2008. The Q79's main purpose is to get people to from LN to Floral Park not the LIRR STA. Yes it does end at the L.N. sta but the main passengers are the elderly who can't walk up and down the Parkway. Usually there's no more than 3 people on the route at a time. Most I've seen was 15 on a PM S/B run.Not a majority of them and at LN you need a permit to park and most of Floral Park you need a permit as well. And according to the schedule there aren't anymore Downtown-NST QM1A's, they all come from Glen Oaks or Fresh Meadows. Which is odd, so I'll have to check that out one morning. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jul 28 01:17:29 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Sun Jul 27 23:47:11 2008. The Q79 should go to the Floral Park station though IMO, although I heard that NIMBYs shot that idea down. |
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Posted by Mr RT on Mon Jul 28 10:13:35 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by R30A on Sat Jul 26 14:08:54 2008. Express service would come closer to breaking even if they found a way to carry folks on the return trip ... maybe local service, because now most return trips are almost empty.The LIRR & M-N have the same problem. They hold many of their train at the inbound station until the outbound rush hour. Could they do that with Express buses ? Where would they park them ? |
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Posted by Mr RT on Mon Jul 28 10:21:40 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jul 26 14:00:14 2008. One of the benifits of Mayor Mike getting rid of responsibility for bous routes is that the political consideration was removed.Now that it's all MTA those affluent/politically sensitive customers don't have near as influence on route decisions. If that means that route decisions are based on traffic demand or lack of other service, then that's a good thing ? |
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Posted by vfrt on Mon Jul 28 11:30:59 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by ClearAspect on Sun Jul 27 09:58:27 2008. Ha ha! Actually since the work on the VZB is nearly 100% completed the bus commute has improved. Seriously I'd have to drive to New Dorp SIR or Oakwood SIR because the S74 doesn't pass either of those stations. |
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Posted by mci guy on Mon Jul 28 12:35:56 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by vfrt on Mon Jul 28 11:30:59 2008. work is 100 percent complete as of today. we still have to deal with lily pond overpass work which bklyn bound should be complete soon but still must be done si bound. |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Mon Jul 28 12:43:25 2008, in response to It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jul 26 13:10:32 2008. Express Bus Service can never be eliminated. You have people who for various reasons [physical & psychological]are unable to ride the Subways. That combined with the fact that the subways could not accept the added passenger load at the current levels[system capacity, car requirements, employee staffing levels] at all. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Mon Jul 28 13:50:10 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Ken S. on Sat Jul 26 23:45:50 2008. Thats even worse. But it can work out for Lower Manhattan routes, thats it. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jul 28 13:52:42 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Mr RT on Mon Jul 28 10:13:35 2008. MNRR has 49% of its ridership going to GCT but actually the biggest % in ridership has been over the last 10 years Reverse commuters so much so that MNRR has actually increased service dramatically for reverse peak trains. I rode reverse peak to White Plains for 4 years and those trains are incredibly crowded. I heard that the Stamford Locals are even more crowded.The problem is LI outside of Hempstead and Minola has no other major point where commuters from the city will want to work. If there was a huge demand for reverse commuter then they would do so happily because they want more $$$! However you see the seeds because the MTA wants to double track Port Washington, they want to double track Ronkonkoma they want the third mainline track they want to double track to Speonk they want to double track to Port Jefferson but sadly NIMBYs are destroying any chances of it! It's not the MTA stopping it, its the the people on LI stopping themselves. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Mon Jul 28 14:27:13 2008, in response to Re: It's time to restructure and eliminate express bus routes..., posted by Pablo M 201 on Mon Jul 28 13:50:10 2008. How is the ex-R&T garage worse for laying over express buses? |
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