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Re: Question on Fifth / Madison 2 and 2A Routes, 1966-1969

Posted by andy on Fri Jun 23 17:14:03 2017, in response to Question on Fifth / Madison 2 and 2A Routes, 1966-1969, posted by W.B. on Thu Jun 22 02:21:45 2017.

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The reality is that before Jan. 14 1966 each #2 was a separate route, a legacy of their Fifth Ave. Coach or NYC Omnibus heritage.

The one way pairing of Fifth and Madison created two separate routes both with #2 designation. One was the former FACO route and operated between 8th St./4th Ave. and 168th St/Broadway via 9th St., University Place, 14th St., 4th Ave./Park Ave. South, 25th St., Madison Ave., 110th St., 7th Ave., 155th St., Edgecombe Ave., 167th St. The other was the former NYCO route and operated between 8th St./4th Ave. and 146th St./Lenox Ave. The northbound route was the same as the ex-FACO route as far as 110th St. Beyond that, buses used Madison, 116th St., and Lenox.

Southbound there was no confusion because both routes were the same on 5th Ave. from 110th St. to 8th St. Northbound there was confusion, so by the summer of 1966 the upper 7th Ave. route (ex-FACO) was designated 2A.

As other recent posters have noted, these designations remained until March 1969, when the #2 5th-Madison-Lenox route was re-routed to Lexington (SB) and Third (NB) Avenues, and re-numbered as 101A. Eventually it became today's M102, and the 2A became today's M2. The M102 is actually the great grandson of the NYCO route #4, Lexington-116-Lenox, a legacy of when Lexington and Third were two ways before July 1960.


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