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Re: Question on Fifth / Madison 2 and 2A Routes, 1966-1969 |
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Posted by W.B. on Mon Sep 4 08:18:25 2017, in response to Re: Question on Fifth / Madison 2 and 2A Routes, 1966-1969, posted by andy on Fri Jun 23 17:14:03 2017. I have, over the weekend, traversed the Transit Museum where they have a section with vintage bus dispatchers' maps for all five boroughs, for the purpose of straightening things out in terms of Manhattan bus routes. For Manhattan, they have one from April 1968, only 11 months before ex-NYCO 2 was discontinued and the 3rd-Lexington-Lenox 101A started up. (A Bronx map, with 42 routes from Bx-1 to Bx-38; Bx-40 to Bx-42; and Bx-49, was dated November 1967, while one from Brooklyn had an October 1967 date; a Queens map was somewhere between 1972 and 1974 [the 'M' logo shown, and express buses designated Q##X], while the one for Staten Island was after its 1975 borough name change from Richmond, given the 'S' prefix on all the regular, non-express buses [with the X## already in place].)From reading the said map, it would seem that only 2A and 3, both ex-FACCo, were the routes that, between 9th and 14th Streets, traveled west on 9th Street/Wanamaker Place, north on University Place and east on 14th Street towards Union Square East/Park Avenue South. That path only had those two routes highlighted. Apparently ex-NYCO 2, like 1, traveled straight north on Fourth Avenue up to 14th (only 1 was highlighted, with the route number in black type inside an outlined circle, but putting 2 and 2 together . . . ). But sure enough, The Times - and Wikipedia - were full of it with their supposed "hybridization" of the M2 with a "Lenox Avenue" and a "Seventh Avenue" branch (a la the Convent and St. Nicholas branches of the 3, or the 14's Avenue A and Avenue D branches). The 2 did indeed terminate at 147th and Lenox, alongside 1 and 7 (on termini, the routes were on white lettering inside a black square). On a tangent, on the southbound journey of the 1, their 8th Street-4th Avenue variant route ran down Broadway only to 4th Street where they ran east, and then north on 4th Ave. up to their said terminus - just as the 2 had prior to 1/14/66. As well, even then they had an alternate route for the 5 which carried on at Riverside Drive through 157th Street - showing that the old 19 route had been absorbed into the 5, in or after the '62 MaBSTOA takeover. The maps also mentioned which routes were assigned to which depots/garages (which may be of help with photos taken prior to the c.1971 opening of the Hudson Pier depot, in terms of identifying which buses plying certain routes came from where). As of April 1968, the Manhattan itinerary was as follows (though, curiously, I did not see the 21 [Houston Street-Avenue C] on that list), all MaBSTOA except where noted: - 146th Street (101 West 146th Street) - 1, 2, 2A, 7, 10 (8th Ave.-Central Park West) - 132nd Street (605 West 132nd Street) - 3, 4, 5, 11; probably also the phantom 10 Broadway route - Amsterdam (1381 Amsterdam Avenue) - Bx-30, M-100, M-104 - 126th Street (NYCTA Manhattan Bus Division, 2460 Second Avenue) - M-1 (Madison-Chambers), M-3 (49th-50th Streets), M-7 (65th Street), M-11 (York Avenue), M-15 (1st-2nd Avenues) - 100th Street (1550 Lexington Avenue) - 6 (72nd Street Crosstown; designated 6X - such designation only on these dispatchers' maps), 17, 18, 19, 20 (116th Street Crosstown), M-101, M-107, TB (after 1969, M-101A, later M102, would be based here) - 54th Street (806 Ninth Avenue) - 6 (Broadway/7th/6th Ave.), 13, 15 (5th/Madison/Queensboro Bridge/Jackson Heights), 15 (23rd Street Crosstown; designated 15X), 16 (Elmhurst Crosstown), 16 (34th Street Crosstown; designated 16X), 20 (57th Street Crosstown), M-103, M-106 - 12th Street (405 East 11th Street) - 12, 14 (both Avenue A and Avenue D branches); probably also 21? (this depot closed around 1971 when Hudson Pier depot opened) Now would anyone know at what point the 4's route towards Penn Station started turning west at 34th Street rather than 33rd as was shown on the '68 map? |
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