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Re: Study to Improve Staten Island Bus Service (Source: SILive)

Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Mon Aug 24 22:36:35 2015, in response to Re: Study to Improve Staten Island Bus Service (Source: SILive), posted by dkupf on Mon Aug 24 21:11:58 2015.

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I'm not extending the S66. The S66 would be roughly the same length as it currently is, requiring 3 buses to operate during off-peak times (90 minute cycle time, 30 minute headways).

The S53/83 has absolutely nothing to do with the S66. The S66 reroute would cost nothing, and the purpose is to resolve an entirely different issue compared to what an S53/83 extension would resolve. If you're against the S66 proposal, it must be debated on its own merits.

But since you brought it up, I disagree with any extension of the S53 westward. If you want to extend the S83 westward, I'll begrudgingly agree, but having the S53 deal with the narrow streets in Mariners Harbor on top of the narrow streets in Grasmere, on top of the general busy-ness of the route is just asking for trouble.

Have you ever rode the S40? Very few people transfer from the S40/90 to ANY bus line, let alone the S54. The few people I see getting off at Broadway coming from the west walk straight into those Markham Gardens apartments, which indicates that they live there, and are not interested in transferring to the S54.

Riders who live in Mariners Harbor who are looking to transfer to other routes generally take the S46 or S48. At best, maybe 1 or 2 people per trip get off in Port Richmond to take the S53, and a couple of people get off by Borough Hall to take a bus down Bay Street. (The rest of those people getting off by Borough Hall are conducting business in the St. George area).

There's literally a handful of people who make that S40-S54 transfer every day. Meanwhile, you do realize that the zone for I.S.61 goes all the way up to Richmond Terrace, right? So right there, you have a couple of hundred students who could use the direct ride to school, plus all the workers and patients at RUMC who now have direct access to their homes in New Brighton and along Manor Road. I think the benefits of the tradeoff are pretty obvious, don't you?

That's why I'm saying to label it as the S77, so people don't get confused. You want local service along Richmond? Take the S59. You want local service on Giffords? Take the S77. You're waiting at a local stop on Hylan and you want a one-seat ride to the SI Mall? Take the S77. You're riding between a local stop in Dongan Hills and a local stop in Great Kills? Take the S77 or S78. You want a quick ride between Grasmere and the SI Mall? Take the S79.

Like I said, you don't want to create any more super-long routes if it's not necessary. The S44 runs from St. George to the SI Mall via the North Shore, and it has its reliability issues. Having the S54 do something similar, and on top of that, continue down to Eltingville via Great Kills would just be asking for trouble.

And the S52 would only get straightened out if there was an S77 along Reid Avenue/McClean Avenue. That's the whole purpose behind having the S77 along McClean, rather than just sending it up Steuben Street.

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