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Re: What is wrong with Select Bus Service

Posted by Mr RT on Thu Jul 7 08:07:11 2011, in response to Re: What is wrong with Select Bus Service, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jul 6 23:26:03 2011.

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BTW, I thought "BrooklynBus" was a colleague of mine who works the trains, but loves buses more.
I since a bit of anger in your tone, I hope not, because a stimulating debate can’t happen if both parties are HELLING at each other :-)

Point One: I agree that the MTA’s SBS is a scaled down BRT & have thought it a joke as far as what a BRT should be & is in other cities. This is why I likened it to re-branded Express or Limited service, i.e. if you are not going to create a real BRT why bother ?

Point Two: Lower half of 2nd Ave Stubway. This could in fact be the MTA’s plan at the highest level. Just looking a history confirms how hard it is for the MTA to make any meaningful extensions to the system. The fact that the Stubway is only two tracks makes it a joke too. Also look at what the “planners” have done to the East Side Access. Somebody should be fired for letting it grow in cost through one change after another. That project is a disgrace !

Point Three: “I am not against SBS and I mean it.” I’m sorry I still don’t believe that in your hart of harts it’s true, e.g. “… (don’t support) taking away a lane … on Woodhave Boulevard …” “… for starters, the bus stops are further apart …” “ BRT/SBS service … mistakenly throttle(s) automobile traffic, thinking this might bolster mass transit useage …” It seems to me that you don’t support any of the BRT features in the SBS (reserved lanes, priority signals, less frequent stops, off-board fare payment) if they are going to interfere in any way with auto TRAFFIC ? That has been the theory of nycDOT, or as I call it the Dept. of Traffic. The policy of nycDOT & MTA should be to find ways to add meaningful public service, e.g. BRT, and if it effects auto traffic, i.e. to discourage it … that is a good thing. You can’t support a BRT from a sky hook so that it doesn’t effect traffic !

Point Four: SBS Bx12 was a no brainer, as it goes along Fordham Road from Co-Op City to Manhattan which is almost a private ROW.

Point Five: Robert Moses … I was just pulling your chain on that one,
i.e. you are right about a proposed Cross-Brooklyn Expressway … but then we must remember what it cost that neighborhood in the Bronx where the Cross-Bronx Expressway was created :-(

P.S. Yesterday I shared a elevator with one of the “suits” who had a lot to do with picking the SBS corridors … I didn’t talk to him about SBS.


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