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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Jul 6 23:26:03 2011, in response to Re: What is wrong with Select Bus Service, posted by Mr RT on Wed Jul 6 10:51:20 2011. The writer, Allen Rosen, says he's not against SBS, but after reading his comments, the opposite is true.He's a typical "planner" who is more concerned about auto traffic then making a fundamental change to enhance public service. "... SBS service (plan) mistakenly throttle automobile traffic ..." "... SBS plans should not require taking away a lane of moving traffic ..." If the goal is to improve the speed of the service, a different colored bus isn't going to be enough, you need dedicated lanes & enforcement to keep cars & trucks out of them. He also blames Robert Moses for Brooklyn's traffic problem, please how long has that man been dead ? Personally I have a problem with SBS/BRT service in NYC, because true BRT service has more then fare payment machines in the street. It also has exclusive ROWs, high platforms, terminals, traffic siginals that see the BRT bus & hold the light for it, etc. SBS in NYC is just a glorified Express/Limited bus. I wrote the article and suggest you reread it, because you have drawn erroneous conclusions. I said that I am not against SBS and I meant it. That is quite different from being against how DOT is implementing it which I am against. I think the SBS on Second Avenue can be improved but am generally for it. What I am against is that the MTA will use its success which has been exaggerated as a reason to justify cancelling the lower half of the Second Avenue Subway which never will be completed. I don't know that much the BX 12 to conclude how well it's working out, but don't think it is much different from the M15. I'm for the M34 proposed SBS with a dedicated lane. I am against the proposed B44, because they chose the wrong route for many reasons. A route similar to the B82 would have been a much better choice. The article primarily focused on taking away a lane of traffic on Woodhaven Boulevard for SBS and I explained my reasons for being against that. That is quite different from saying I do not believe SBS should have exclusive lanes which is what you quote me as saying which I did not say. You say it's to enhance "public service". Nothing is being enhanced if you are not gathering data on the complete picture. Bus speeds only tell part of the story, not the whole story. I am definitely not more concerned about auto traffic than mass transit, but you just can't ignore it, and say it doesn't matter if their trips take 20 minutes longer because it is more worthwhile to save a bus passenger that amount of time or less. That theory might hold if the people in their cars had the choice to switch to the bus. On Woodhaven Boulevard, that choice does not exist for most of the traffic. That was the major point of the article. Then you criticize me for blaming Robert Moses for Brooklyn's traffic problems and question how long he has been dead. It doesn't matter how long he has been dead, because the things he accomplished or failed to accomplish like the Cross-Brooklyn Expressway will affect New York forever. I agree that the scaled-down BRT we have is not as good as a real BRT, but the priority signals supposed to be a feature of New York's SBS. It is a key element and could be done on all major bus routes. You don't need SBS for it. You might need an exclusive bus lane though. Incidentally, we actually met and spoke to each other once about eight years ago. |
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