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Re: Valley Metro questions (mainly historical)

Posted by roscoman1986 on Sat Aug 16 03:00:37 2008, in response to Valley Metro questions (mainly historical), posted by CentrolinerDD on Fri Aug 15 20:52:16 2008.

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I did not get into buses until around 2001, so I don't have much firsthand history about what happened before that with some exceptions. However, since then I have found some secondary history about it (from other photos, etc) so I can help answer these questions. Since I am short on time right now, I will "fully" answer the other questions when I get a chance. (Also, pardon the fact that I cannot hyperlink stuff but I can provide URLs)

1. "Tico" was introduced in 1971-1973, and from photos that I have seen it was removed from the buses in the 1980s. It was introduced with the takeover of Phoenix Transit System by the city during this time. An orange and purple livery was introduced (see the photo link below) and changed in 1979 (to a simplified version without the silver and yellow on the bottom sides) and 1989(?) (to a further simplified version without the "orange front"). The MAN Articulated buses (see below) delivered in 1985 did not have the Tico logo. I don't know exactly why this logo was eliminated, but I have heard that it was mildly offensive to some people due to the sombrero. Nevertheless, after some newspaper articles and other stuff, in 2002 Valley Metro restored 1981 RTS-04 4401 to its delivery livery, including Tico (since it was the first wheelchair accessible bus in Phoenix). If you go to Central Station in downtown Phoenix (or check out the pics below) you can see this bus.

2. This is the best site for route history since about 1995:

http://www.recnet.com/transit/phx_history.shtml

I will put some more info up when I get a chance though.

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