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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:08:09 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:03:33 2009. Of course not. But you'll know why I asked a little later. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:12:41 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:01:31 2009. 1. There is a signal room at Queens Plaza at the north end of the station.2. He came out of the room, and only transit employees are allowed in those types of quarters. 3: didn't come to mind. 4: I tried to, but his level of hostility was extremely high. He was yelling at me so I just did what he ordered. Call it what you want, I just didn't want any discrepancy. Had I known though that it wasn't a TA employee's job to order a railfan to delete their work, I never would have done that. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:15:16 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:06:22 2009. Really?See, the reason I asked for a description of the employee is because I'm familiar with the people who work in the area. And sure enough, I know the individual you speak of. Which is how I knew your story was fishy from the start...this individual happens to be a train buff, who would never, EVER do what you described. Just to make sure, I called him up and asked him what happened. Care to make any adjustments to your original story before I expose you for the fool you are? |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:18:04 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:15:16 2009. The hell?I have nothing else to change. Please amaze me with your wonders. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:19:25 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:08:09 2009. I'm certain that I will. I need to get some info from you as well. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:23:12 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:18:04 2009. The Dispatcher came out because you took a flash photo of that (R) train. When he came out of the office, you ran away.Now why would you make up such a story? After all, there's no way the Dispatcher would have any idea you were taking a video as opposed to a still picture. Care to explain? |
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Posted by JBar387 on Tue Nov 17 00:23:38 2009, in response to TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 16 22:18:39 2009. I would not deleated it, And always carry a set of rules. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:25:51 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:23:12 2009. FALSE!!! I recorded a video of the trainleaving the station.I'm not a retard. I know the rules. Flash is not allowed in the subway. And you can't use flash in video anyway. So tell your friend that he caused a discrepancy because now I don't have an R32 (R) train video! Call it bitching, but I want an apology. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:26:06 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by JBar387 on Tue Nov 17 00:23:38 2009. And be prepared to follow those rules? |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:26:25 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by JBar387 on Tue Nov 17 00:23:38 2009. Thank you. I tried explaining myself too but it didn't work. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:27:28 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:26:06 2009. You're not helping right now. I know the rules, but if what G1Ravage says is true, the guy took the whole scene out of context. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Tue Nov 17 00:28:41 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:26:06 2009. Hey, I always do! And do it safely. But hey even I go thru this, some people don't know and some people do know the law on photography. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:30:04 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:23:12 2009. And to clarify, I ran because I needed to catch the (E) train heading back to Manhattan. Still, he had no business ordering me to delete my work, and he had no business leaving his post either. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:30:53 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:25:51 2009. I don't know you personally, so I can't 100% for sure say you're the type of person who would come on here to make up stories about employees. Although we have had people do so in the past.My friend, on the other hand, I do know personally, and I believe him a hell of a lot more than I believe you. Again, he's a buff, and would never do as you described. He enjoys taking train videos himself. I won't take this any further, but let these posts forever stand on SubChat as evidence that I officially contest your story. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:32:55 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:30:53 2009. Fine...go ahead. Doesn't bother me none. So tell your friend that he can go straight to fucking hell!!! He's probably some fake ass railfan who cums in his pants every time he sees an R160. You probably cum in your pants too when you see a 160. Don't even try to hide the fact that you cum in your pants when you see a 160. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:33:33 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:30:04 2009. Yes, we know you had to catch an (E) train. You stated that already.You also have no business in determining whether he can or cannot leave his "post". Nobody working down here is chained to their desks, at least no TWU members are. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:34:53 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:32:55 2009. ROFLMAOSee, everyone? The true nature emerges. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:36:14 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:33:33 2009. He's basically putting his job at risk. Was he ordered to check out the situation? Nope. Not at all. He has a certain task to do, he does it. If anything else, he calls the cops.Tell your friend that I'll be back at Queens Plaza this week, and if he even dares to try to even say as much as one word to me, I'll bring up harassment charges against him. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:36:37 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:27:28 2009. I may not be saying exactly what you want me to say but do not say that I am not helping? Discussions that help clarify incidents are usually helpful. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:37:06 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:34:53 2009. I'm glad you had a laugh. |
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Posted by straphanger9 on Tue Nov 17 00:38:03 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:34:53 2009. Boy this has been one weird week on this place... |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Tue Nov 17 00:38:29 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by straphanger9 on Tue Nov 17 00:38:03 2009. *T*R*U*T*H* |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Nov 17 00:39:37 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:32:55 2009. That was uncalled for. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:39:56 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:36:37 2009. You're basically saying that my story is false. I do not need to make up anything against anyone, especially transit employees. I love the subway system. I have family members who work for transt. I've got to know T/Os, C/Rs and bus operators over the years, a few I've despised, but many I've got accustomed to. Never would I jeopardize someone's job, especially if it's a transit job. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Nov 17 00:40:54 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by straphanger9 on Tue Nov 17 00:38:03 2009. It really has, is it possible to give a website a dose of Ritalin? |
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Posted by JBar387 on Tue Nov 17 00:40:54 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:26:25 2009. You need not explain yourself, But being polite was good on your part. But this person is not the law and has no authority to say otherwise. Like in my last encounter, I just said in a calm voice "Not according to the MTA website", and just walked away. I hope you did not write over the card you can recover the video.Recuva Always update the version It's a good little recovery sytem and free. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:40:56 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:32:55 2009. Hey guy, lighten up. You don't want to start sounding like that fake railfan who's always "whining". With more than 1300 R-160s in service, very few employees will cum in their pants when they see one. A "D-Type" maybe but certainly not an R-160. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:41:18 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Nov 17 00:39:37 2009. I'm sorry man, but it had to be said and done. I'm not going to be pushed around by jackasses, not a chance in hell. And what happened today was very uncalled for. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:42:04 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:39:56 2009. I did no such thing. I only asked a few clarifying questions. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:42:36 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by JBar387 on Tue Nov 17 00:40:54 2009. Thanks man. I appreciate your help. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Nov 17 00:44:16 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:41:18 2009. You were pushed around today, just not on the internet. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:44:27 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:40:56 2009. At least you clarified that there are people who still get ecstatic over R160s, even when they're four years old. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:44:51 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 17 00:42:04 2009. I do appreciate your rationality. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:45:58 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Easy on Tue Nov 17 00:44:16 2009. Happens to me all the time. FML. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:47:19 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:36:14 2009. Actually, it is the job of the Dispatcher to investigate unusual occurrences in his area, and if a dangerous situation exists, to report it to the Rail Control Center. Somebody taking a flash photo near the Train Operator's position, for example, could annoy the Train Operator. From where he's sitting in the office, all he could see is the bright light going off. I would go out myself; if not just to make sure it wasn't a fire being sparked, but if someone was taking pictures, to see if it was anyone I knew, and say hello.Of course, it just makes your story sound all the more phony when you make such ignorant and false statements about what you believe employees are supposed to be doing. This is why many employees look down upon know-it-all buffs. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 00:48:01 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:36:14 2009. You may note that I haven't weighed in with an opinion, but if the attitude you're expressing is your plan instead of how I suggested you handle such incidents, you'll be even more disappointed ... |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:50:49 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 00:48:01 2009. You never suggested jack squat. You accused me of lying, when your friend tries to bring up an argument that is totally false.Tell him he owes me R32 (R) train footage. You better hope I recover my footage or I'll be back. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:51:23 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 00:48:01 2009. Sorry, that last post was meant for G1. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:54:20 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:47:19 2009. How about you tell your friend that he's a know-it-all fuckhead that is an imbecile for thinking I used flash? Now he owes me R32 (R) train footage, so he had better hope that I recover that file or I'll be back at Queens Plaza this week, and if I see him and he harassed me, I'm having his ass thrown away for harassment. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:56:27 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:51:23 2009. It's okay, I forgive you. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:56:33 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 17 00:48:01 2009. You're right in every sene. I just want this wrong to be right. I lost good footage because of his quick judgment and jumping to conclusions that totally fail. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:57:21 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:56:27 2009. Still doesn't bring back my R32 (R) train footage. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:58:20 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Nov 17 00:56:27 2009. ...so until I record another R32/42 (R) train leaving Queens Plaza, or if I get my footage, then I'll forgive you. |
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Posted by straphanger9 on Tue Nov 17 01:01:13 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:54:20 2009. In my humble opinion you need to relax. I'm not going to make assumptions or take anyone's words over the other but let's just say that everything you put in your post is completely true. You got yelled at, lost footage and had to get out of there. Fine. But that said, you are way too pissed off about it. Judging from these posts you'd think the guy dropped a coupler adapter on your foot. My advice: Sleep on it. Posting shit like this is not going to help your cause.Just my 2c... |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Nov 17 01:02:30 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 00:41:18 2009. Just saying, you shouldn't be cursing out G1 like that. He's a respected member here.It's understandable to be upset and a disagreement is fine, but no need to get vile. Just saying before this escelates to a flame war. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 17 01:03:53 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Clayton on Mon Nov 16 23:19:43 2009. If you have followed my posts you should know that I am a crusader of sorts for photographer's rights.The only way transit agencies, police and other authorities will stop harassing photographers is through repeated lawsuits. It isn't about money - it is about the law. 1050.9c is very clear and it is the responsibility of the MTA to ensure that all of its employees are aware of its terms. I do intend to enforce my rights through the courts if necessary. I am not one to just accept being stopped from engaging in a legal activity. I have my NYCLU contact, two attorneys, and two press contacts on speed dial on my cellphone if I were to be detained. Hopefully it will never come to that. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 01:04:44 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Nov 17 01:02:30 2009. I don't think he's respected enough. If one of my actual and personal friends (or in this case, just friend singular, who posts here) thinks he's a bad apple, then I think he's a bad apple. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 01:08:10 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by straphanger9 on Tue Nov 17 01:01:13 2009. I'll just say this final statement: that so-called foamer dispatcher has not seen the last of me. I'm just putting G1 on alert so I can let him know.I'm pretty sure you haven't dealt with a yelling TA worker so I don't know how you would react. If you have, I'm glad you adhered to the situation in a perfect manner and I'll try to in the future. |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 01:10:27 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 17 01:03:53 2009. Absolutely. I, for one, could care less about money. I just want a precedent to be set so future railfans won't have to deal with this behavior and get scared to death by harassing employees. Inexcusable if you ask me. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Nov 17 01:19:15 2009, in response to Re: TA personell really need to lighten up!!!, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 17 01:10:27 2009. I'm talking in general and not making a judgment on this case because if your flash did fire then the employee was at least partly correct.I say partly because I am concerned about the part where you were told to delete the pictures. Even police cannot force a photographer to delete pictures without a court order. That applies even if the pictures were taken on private property while trespassing. The most anyone can do is ask you to leave the premises. |
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