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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Jul 18 02:06:32 2008, in response to Re: ''You Can't Sit Down'': CTA, posted by Forest Glen on Fri Jul 18 00:31:17 2008. Conversely, imagine if you were me.I will present my bias ahead of time. I have yet to ride WMATA, but I've been on BART and MARTA which are systems of somewhat similar vintage, but with lower riders. I am a former E train commuter, and my brother is a current E train commuter. Getting on a 45 year old train with no AC Oddly, the cars that you're complaining about, IMHO, have the best air conditioning in the subway system. Every time the train enters the station the brakes screech The brakes on the R-160 screech when entering a station too. At the first stop you have to stand. That's simply a consequence of high ridership and NYCTA's decision to emphasize standing room over seating room. Given that NYCTA moves four times as many passengers per mile than WMATA (34K versus 8K), heavy crowding is going to be an issue. In the case of the E, it's due to the fact that it's terminal serves as the endpoint of a heavily used bus system in Southeastern Queens. The same is true for the F at 179th Street, and they're blessed with slightly more seats. The trains are controlled by computers I hope you're not in the pool of posters bashing NYCTA for implementing CBTC on the L or the 7... the stations are clean WMATA's stations are clean due to it's strict policy of prohibiting eating and drinking. NYCTA could probably do the same, but I'd imagine much of the ridership would balk at such rules. and trains travel 65 miles per hour. Admittedly, NYCTA isn't going to achieve 65 mph anytime soon regardless if WMATA's ATO system was imported or CBTC is overlaid over our system. Station spacing prohibits such speeds on local stretches, and as determined by NYCTA's emphasis on timers, NYCTA simply isn't willing to trust its operators at such speeds. Mind you, NYCTA isn't alone, as NJT is spending large sums of capital dollars to impose a speed control system over its network to enforce train speeds. BTW, from the NTSB report for the 1996 Shady Grove Accident... Adherence to Regulated Speed,” made reference to 59 mph as the maximum authorized speed and directed train operators to notify the OCC should their regulated (ATS) speed ever exceed 59 mph. While this document was the only one that Per the report, running over the de facto MAS of 59mph essentially indicates an issue that needs to reported to central command and running at that speed requires their authorization. This certainly throws some doubt into your claims of WMATA being a 65mph urban railway. Yes, NYCTA may not be the best system in the world, and there's much to complain about, but WMATA isn't magically twice as good as NYCTA. |
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