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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 29 12:17:31 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 29 12:12:57 2009.

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You wouldn't need to run at 15 minute headways if they ran to 168th. C's are fumigated, they can do the same to the B.

Those 15 minute headways are a bitch for Brighton express riders, they don't need to suffer for a problem all the way in Harlem.

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Thu Jan 29 12:18:22 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 28 19:21:24 2009.

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There's rats at 145 too. I believe theres a family taking residence in the men's(crew facility) bathroom.....

Worked at PARC on Tuesday. I was amazed how clean it was. It improve since I was working there on the regular.....

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Thu Jan 29 12:18:50 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 28 19:21:24 2009.

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There's rats at 145 too. I believe theres a family of rats* taking residence in the men's(crew facility) bathroom.....

Worked at PARC on Tuesday. I was amazed how clean it was. It improve since I was working there on the regular.....

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 29 13:03:32 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 29 12:17:31 2009.

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So i guess you are forgetting that Brighton Line G.O as well huh?

Also remember since the Charile is in the North and the Bravo is in the South...

You have Bravo Put-ins out of CCYD on the Pm's...

What space do you have in 174 Yard to lay up those trains?

See where im getting at?

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 29 14:29:55 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 28 19:20:22 2009.

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E.G.O 3321-09

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 29 14:29:56 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 28 19:20:22 2009.

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E.G.O 3321-09

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 29 16:21:34 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 29 13:03:32 2009.

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If it goes to the Concourse yard or comes from it, run the trains to BPB. Any train which terminates at 145th and is scheduled to run back to Brooklyn runs to 168th. No yard issues. The terminal can handle the extra trains. Crew facilities are available.

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 29 16:38:40 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 29 16:21:34 2009.

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Any train which terminates at 145th and is scheduled to run back to Brooklyn runs to 168th. No yard issues. The terminal can handle the extra trains. Crew facilities are available.

You have Put-ins to 145 so where are they coming from?

Which Yard do they come from?




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Re: B line go

Posted by EastSideRider on Thu Jan 29 17:29:37 2009, in response to Re: B line go, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 29 05:12:44 2009.

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On Sundays, the last FULL LINE train to Camden (From Trenton), and to Trenton (From Camden), leaves at 8:59 PM, but the last trains running are trains between Tweeter and Route 73/Pennsauken (Last Northbound of these leaves at Midnight, last Southbound leaves 11:26 PM).

Saturday, the Last FULL LINE trains (And last train from Trenton) leave the terminals at 11:59 PM. The "Camden-only" trains (These go Northbound only, as the last Southbound ended already) run then, and the last one leaves at 1:15 AM.

Weekdays, The last FULL LINE Southbound leaves Trenton at 9 PM, the same for the Last Northbound from Camden (An Express to Walter Rand from Trenton leaves at 9:15, with a local to Burlington South leaving at 9:28). Camden-only shuttles run till the last leaves at 11:50 PM (going Northbound), and 12:10 AM (going Southbound, though the very last Southbound train goes to Walter Rand only though)

Clear as mud huh? LOL :-P

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jan 29 17:37:19 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 29 16:38:40 2009.

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I know, I know Westchester, That it. What do I win from give the right Answer?

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by mr_brian on Thu Jan 29 18:17:34 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 29 16:38:40 2009.

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I'm pretty sure they won't be coming from Corona, lol

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Re: LONG LIVE The B line GO.

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Jan 29 19:09:14 2009, in response to Re: LONG LIVE The B line GO., posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 28 19:23:16 2009.

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you're waiting for newkirk aren't you

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jan 29 22:46:27 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Jan 28 17:37:12 2009.

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Parsons might be a castle, but 145 now has a moat. :-)

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by brightonr68 on Thu Jan 29 22:59:39 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jan 29 22:46:27 2009.

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Once again the TWU makes alot of noise but does not get done what is needed to improve working conditions. Safe clean bathrooms for staff is important.

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Re: LONG LIVE The B line GO.

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Jan 29 23:40:10 2009, in response to Re: LONG LIVE The B line GO., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jan 28 17:42:47 2009.

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While getting a seat is great, I hope you were in the car with the T/O. I do find some merit in the adage, "safety in numbers," especially on the subway.

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jan 30 06:36:34 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 29 12:09:38 2009.

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Nooooooooooooooooo

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jan 30 06:36:50 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 29 12:12:57 2009.

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Sure does.

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Re: LONG LIVE The B line GO.

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jan 30 06:42:08 2009, in response to Re: LONG LIVE The B line GO., posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Jan 29 23:40:10 2009.

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I always get a seat. I always ride in the lead car. But only because it is nearest my exit stairway at BPB. I have no problems riding in any other car that's empty.

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 30 10:19:20 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 29 16:38:40 2009.

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The put-ins come from BPB, all crews meet the trains there. Any in-service train FROM the south headed BACK south turns at 168th. No yard facilities necessary.

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 30 10:22:13 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jan 29 17:37:19 2009.

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What right answer? He's clearly not understanding what I'm saying:

- Trains coming from Concourse Yard run to 145th with their full crews

- Trains headed TO Concourse Yard terminate at 145th, then run lite to BPB

- Trains coming from Brighton Beach and which are headed back to Brighton Beach turn at 168th

In essence, no turning of trains at BPB. No longer headways necessary.

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Re: B line go

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jan 30 10:31:01 2009, in response to Re: B line go, posted by EastSideRider on Thu Jan 29 17:29:37 2009.

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Clear as mud huh? LOL :-P

Sure was lol, thanks for the answer.

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Re: LONG LIVE The B line GO.

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jan 30 13:32:41 2009, in response to Re: LONG LIVE The B line GO., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Jan 28 17:40:25 2009.

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Nope, the OP pulled the G.O. advisory from the MTA website.

Also, if you can find them, there are some posters about this G.O. in a few stations. However, it only mentions 9:30 AM to 3 PM, not from 7 PM to 11:15 PM.

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Re: LONG LIVE The B line GO.

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jan 30 17:47:50 2009, in response to Re: LONG LIVE The B line GO., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Jan 28 17:40:25 2009.

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They did when the (5) was extended to Brooklyn College during the day a month or two ago.

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 30 23:15:07 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 30 10:19:20 2009.

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The put-ins come from BPB

No they dont..

They come from CCYD...

I worked the Bravo for two picks you dont think i know what im talking about?

Dont worry IF you come down here all will make sense...

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 30 23:19:11 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 30 10:22:13 2009.

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Trains coming from Concourse Yard run to 145th with their full crews

No they dont...

Trains headed TO Concourse Yard terminate at 145th, then run lite to BPB

Not all..

Strike two...

Trains coming from Brighton Beach and which are headed back to Brighton Beach turn at 168th

Well it looks like OP dont agree with your "idea" or it whould have been done...

In essence, no turning of trains at BPB. No longer headways necessary.

See above...

I understand exactly what you are saying you just arent understanding what im telling you...

Its Ok ...



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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jan 30 23:24:30 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 30 23:15:07 2009.

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pwnwd, lol

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by QM18Express on Sat Jan 31 01:18:10 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 29 13:03:32 2009.

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May I ask what is the Brighton G.O. in question?



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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 31 01:19:39 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 30 23:15:07 2009.

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Aw c'mon, bro ... we all know that they come in from Westchester Yahd. Neto said so, good enuff for me. :)

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jan 31 07:50:04 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by QM18Express on Sat Jan 31 01:18:10 2009.

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The one where Ave U and Neck Rd are Closed.

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 31 11:43:54 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 30 23:19:11 2009.

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I am understanding what you're saying. I'm just doing a bad job of communicating. So I'll break it down again:

- Trains scheduled to begin/end at BPB would continue to do so unchanged

- Trains scheduled to begin/end at 145th, either coming FROM or then going TO the Concourse yard would run to BPB

- Trains coming from Brooklyn which are scheduled to run back south would run to 168th St

There would be no routing to BPB of any train for the sole purpose of turning it around for service back to Brooklyn. 168th is closer, it wouldn't need to run at 15 minute headways.

There's no technical reason this cannot be done, any reason must be operational, much like the B/C swap was 11 years ago.

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 31 11:45:30 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 30 23:15:07 2009.

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Argh.

I'm not saying that they DO, I'm saying IF they do!!!



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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jan 31 12:16:10 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 31 11:45:30 2009.

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Argh.

I'm not saying that they DO, I'm saying IF they do!!!


Then i suggest you do a better job in "clarifying your posts"..

Agreed?

No sense getting all upset over fantasy train talk yes?


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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jan 31 12:17:34 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 31 11:43:54 2009.

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There's no technical reason this cannot be done, any reason must be operational, much like the B/C swap was 11 years ago.

Which was my Entire point..

Operational period...

Which i even said in a post look for it it's there..


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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 31 12:40:34 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jan 31 12:16:10 2009.

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I don't need to clarify, my meaning was plain to see.

I agree, but it's frustrating when you're arguing over something you never really said.

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 31 12:42:54 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jan 31 12:17:34 2009.

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And said operational reasons are no excuse to impose a service cut for an entire route due to this problem at 145th St. Passangers come first, MTA bureaucracy be damned.

/soapbox

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by TheGreatOne2k9 on Sat Jan 31 13:36:11 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 31 12:42:54 2009.

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This can help the (D) out after 7pm on weekdays when it can be packed.... also between 3:30-4:10pm as well, even between 9:00-10:00am

Some passengers do benefit from this though...

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Re: B Line Emergency GO

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Jan 31 13:45:36 2009, in response to Re: B Line Emergency GO, posted by TheGreatOne2k9 on Sat Jan 31 13:36:11 2009.

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Some passengers do benefit from this though... <<

Raises hand and hopes the repairs take forever.
I'm so selfish.

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