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Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B) |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 08:58:54 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Elkeeper on Sun May 24 21:10:57 2020. Would it have been on the same location on the el at Marcy ? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 25 10:39:44 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 08:32:55 2020. The JJ had a split personality. During AM rush hours, it ran from 168th St. to Canal St., skip-stop Manhattan-bound to Broadway Junction. During PM rush hours, it operated between Canal St. and Crescent St. OR Atlantic Ave. OR Rockaway Parkway. During non-rush hours, it operated between 168th St. and Broad St. The only time I ever rode on one was on a Sunday in March of 1968.Is it true that the JJ did not operate during midday hours on weekdays? Since the QJ ran from 6:00 AM to 8:00 PM on weekdays prior to July 1, 1968, the JJ would have been redundant. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 10:55:28 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 25 10:39:44 2020. When the QJ and RJ did not run to or from south Brooklyn, JJ was the Broad Street service. QJ ran all day weekdays until around 7 - 8pm. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon May 25 11:06:48 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 25 10:39:44 2020. NO JJ midday service during weekdays.Evenings, nights and weekends , the JJ did exactly what the J does now. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon May 25 11:23:18 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by SLRT on Fri May 22 12:11:05 2020. Here are the questions I have:Do you have sources for the fact that the number 10 was assigned to the service in 1924? In another post you said "Midday and Sunday service began in January 1924. On January 14, service began operating during middays, and until 8:01 pm from Chambers Street. Service on Saturday middays until 8:58 from Chambers Street started on January 19, and service on Sunday started on January 20, leaving Metropolitan Avenue from 12:27 to 10:27 p.m, and leaving Chambers Street from 1 to 11 p.m..". Where did you get this information? Do you know when specifically in June 1933 Sunday service was eliminated and have a source for this? According to Eric Bolden, on June 28, 1952, Saturday service began running local. Do you know of a source for this claim? I also don't have sources for these claims: |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Mon May 25 12:02:00 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Union Tpke on Mon May 25 11:23:18 2020. Some time between 1969 and 1973, the SS shuttle was folded into the M, and the span of M service was expanded by an hour to 8 p.m. (SOURCE NEEDED) I do not have the exact date of the General Notice. However the first map to reflect these changes was issued in 1972. The Lenox Terminal, Dyre Avenue and Myrtle Avenue "SS" shuttles were folded back into their mother services: 3,5 and M. The only lines still using the "SS' designation were the 42nd St, Bowling Green, Culver and Franklin Avenue shuttles. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon May 25 13:34:13 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Elkeeper on Sun May 24 20:26:14 2020. Why wouldn't I believe him? If he had said it was earlier than I began wide-ranging railfanning (last months of 1956) THEN I would doubt it.Alsp, Larry has his dates indexed very well. He is one of the last people I would doubt unless I had VERY good information otherwise. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 25 15:20:49 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Edwards! on Mon May 25 11:06:48 2020. The first post-Chrystie St. map just said, "Other times" for the JJ after the rush hour patterns. For some reason, I was under the impression that JJ trains ran at all times, but it finally dawned on me that the 168th/Broad St. pattern was already covered by the QJ. Basically, the JJ was an all times-except-midday-weekdays route. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 25 15:29:48 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Union Tpke on Mon May 25 11:23:18 2020. BMT route numbering first appeared on the first Triplexes on July 23, 1925. The BMT numbering system can be found on page 52 of, A HISTORY OF THE NEW YORK CITY SUBWAY SYSTEM- RAPID TRANSIT in BROOKLYN, by Cunningham & DeHart. SOURCES NEEDED-SOURCES NEEDED-SOURCES NEEDED, ad nausium...! I guess these guys don't rust us, Larry!!! |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon May 25 15:47:36 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 25 15:20:49 2020. Perhaps what you are referring to is the AM skip stop service from Jamaica to Eastern Pky.? The QJ made A stops and the JJ to Canal St. made B stops? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 25 16:22:29 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by SLRT on Mon May 25 13:34:13 2020. Then why do you keep demanding our sources?????? |
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Posted by randyo on Mon May 25 17:02:58 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon May 25 15:47:36 2020. If I recall correctly, unlike the pre Chrystie service pattern, PM Jamaica bound JJs operated skip stop all the way to Jamaica. I definitely know that when the KK was established, the KKs initially ran skip stop to Jamaica in the PM to match the AM pattern. By the time I became a road M/M in 1969, while the KKs still went to Jamaica in the PM, both KKs and QJs were all stop. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon May 25 17:04:36 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 08:58:54 2020. From the info I have it was actually supposed to be at Willy B Plaza itself. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon May 25 17:24:09 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by randyo on Mon May 25 17:04:36 2020. Correct. That is what I have seen as well. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 17:41:48 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by randyo on Mon May 25 17:02:58 2020. For post Christie JJ, the old "14" version with BMT Standards, I do not remember running them past ENY. The KK changed that.In the AM, the Standards made stops from ENY to Jamaica. I commuted on one to elementary school every day in the Spring of 1968 from Woodhaven Blvd to 121st Street. During the Spring, the Arnines invaded. It was good to avoid the Richmond Hill High punks on the B56 bus in the AM and PM. The station agent at 121st got to know me and I did not need to show my pass. He was a nice old timer. He got a good look at my pass the first day as he had never heard of my private school in Kew Gardens. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon May 25 17:53:42 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Union Tpke on Mon May 25 11:23:18 2020. As for the M being inappropriately use for the Nassau StBankers’ Specials, the cesspool of incompetence that passes for NYCTA planning never though about the variations in Southern Div service that used both Nassau St and Bway service and with a Manhattan centric mentality insisted on linking most of the Southern Div branch line name with the line they used MOST of the time which was Bway. Since all Eastern Div lines except for the Myrtle el and 14 St used the misnamed Nassau St Line (which was more under Centre St) the Manhattan centrists instead on referring to all the services as “Nassau St” services. When more R types started to be used on the rush hour only Bankers’ Specials, the TA had no proper signs to display on them so in typical knee jerk reaction opted to misapply the letter “M” to both the Brighton an4th Av Bankers’ Special services. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 25 18:20:22 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by randyo on Mon May 25 17:02:58 2020. My immediate post-Chrystie St map says, "Mon.-Fri. during rush hours, JJ trains terminate at Canal St. In PM rush hours, JJ trains do not operate between Crescent and 168th Sts. Skip-stop service during AM rush, 168th St to Eastern Pkwy."I had the map unfolded, in front of me, as I wrote this. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 25 18:27:14 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by randyo on Mon May 25 17:53:42 2020. Those "Know trains at a glance" placards listed the M as a Nassau St. Express. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 18:28:59 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by randyo on Mon May 25 17:04:36 2020. Is that why that portion was ballast filled ? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 25 18:31:30 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 25 15:29:48 2020. That numbering system never caught on, mainly because most BMT equipment didn't have front signs. Karl B remembered hearing people ask, "What's a 15?" when the R-16s first appeared. It only took 31 years before the Jamaica route number finally appeared on equipment. |
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Posted by BMT Standard on Mon May 25 19:00:54 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Union Tpke on Mon May 25 11:23:18 2020. Do you have sources for the fact that the number 10 was assigned to the service in 1924?Route numbers first appeared on the BMT maps issued in 1924. This showed #10 for the Myrtle-Chambers service. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon May 25 19:56:34 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by BMT Standard on Mon May 25 19:00:54 2020. What is the official name for the map? I need it properly cite it. Thanks. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 25 20:16:23 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 25 18:31:30 2020. Most of the steel subway cars were the A/B Standards, since the Triplexes operated mainly in the Southern Division. Eastern Division riders had to wait until 1936 to see the Multis, which had numbered front signs. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon May 25 23:12:56 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 17:41:48 2020. R-1/9s entered JJ service very early post Chrystie. In the AM there was no skip stop service towards Jamaica only in the PM. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon May 25 23:22:49 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 25 18:27:14 2020. That was correct since that letter was not yet used for the Myrtle/Chambers service and was available for use on the Bankers’ Specials. Since under normal conditions, the AM inbound Brighton and 4 Av specials which ran express would never be at the same stations M was used for both services. In the PM since the 4 Av specials made lcl stops S/Special signs were used. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon May 25 23:36:50 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 25 20:16:23 2020. Even then, it seems that the BMT gave up on numbering the routes since the Bluebird lacked numbered roll signs. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue May 26 04:47:06 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 25 15:29:48 2020. It may also be that southern division routes were always referred to by name, rather than the BMT's route numbers due to colloquial "precident," - these were the original names of former steam RR routes begun a dozen or so years after the Civil War, to take travelers "to the seaside."The original company names were similar and longer than the southern division route names later adopted by the BRT, and years before the an attempt was made to configure a route numbering system with the Triplex's front end signs. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue May 26 04:48:38 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 25 15:29:48 2020. Thanks for listening. As I was writing this, I'm thinking, heck, everybody already knows this stuff... |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue May 26 05:02:39 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 25 18:31:30 2020. I'm wondering if there were (and there must have been?) newspaper articles in the Bklyn. Eagle and the NYT that explained the "new" numbering system on the Triplexes front end roll signs when they first began running; as well as in-house articles in the BMT monthly magazine, and company info. memos etc.Also, route numbers might have never caught on, since maybe the "company culture" by 1924-25, then the BMT, continued to refer to these routes by their original southern division names, in spite of the Triplex's roll signs. And in the stations themselves, signage most likely was never revised referring to the Brighton, Sea Beach, West End, Culver & 4th Ave. routes by numbers. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue May 26 05:20:41 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by randyo on Mon May 25 23:12:56 2020. I remember - R-1/9s only had letters (and sometimes not) in the sqaure front display sign for lettered routes, and in the adjacent rectangular route name display, were usualy blank. |
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Posted by X-Astorian on Tue May 26 07:54:10 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Union Tpke on Mon May 25 19:56:34 2020. What is the official name for the map? I need it properly cite it. Thanks.The first 1924 edition was entitled "Guide Map to BMT Lines - Rapid Transit Division." Subsequent versions were "Map and Guide..." |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Tue May 26 08:06:27 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by X-Astorian on Tue May 26 07:54:10 2020. Thanks! |
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Posted by X-Astorian on Tue May 26 09:43:29 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Union Tpke on Tue May 26 08:06:27 2020. Any time. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue May 26 10:35:54 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 25 18:20:22 2020. Exactly.No JJ trains between Crescent St and Jamaica. The RJ was running pms Towards Jamaica at the time to make up the gap in QJs out of Brighton Beach. However,JJ trains did make it down to Rockaway Parkway during the pm peak period. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue May 26 14:25:41 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Express Rider on Tue May 26 05:20:41 2020. That’s correct. While the R-16s and up that had post Chrystie signs had the route signs installed in the destination sign box and the old route sign s either blanked or painted out completely, the R-1/9s had the destination signs turned to blank and the new route letters installed in the original route sign box. For a long period of time it seemed that the TA gave up on putting the destinations on the fronts of the trains. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue May 26 15:00:25 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Express Rider on Tue May 26 05:02:39 2020. The same was also true of the post war IRT. As a private company, the IRT never numbered their routes and it wasn’t until the arrival of the R-12s that someone in the B of t decided to number them. Now I realize that the R-12s' design was based on the R-10s which has provisions for a route descriptor and a destination, so someone probably decided that something needed to fo in that particular window and numbers were chosen. However, there were other options that could have been used. One would have been to design the car so that the destination sign would have been centered above the end door and no route sign included like the 1939 W/F cars. The other would have been to just display the name of the line in the route box like “Bway-7 Ave,” "7 Ave-Bronx,” Lex-Jerome,” etc. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue May 26 16:27:25 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 25 16:22:29 2020. Do you consider my having a doubt and giving a reason for my doubt demanding a source? |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue May 26 17:09:54 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by randyo on Mon May 25 17:04:36 2020. Would have been great for bus transfers. Alas, wasn't to be. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 18:07:41 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by randyo on Tue May 26 14:25:41 2020. When they added Eastern Division places on the R7 - R9's, notice they had "168th Street Jamaica", not the IND style of the reverse like the R27 and on had. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 18:18:38 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by randyo on Tue May 26 15:00:25 2020. The R12 roof looked an awful lot like the pre-war World's Fair Lo-V's (whatever you call them). |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue May 26 20:33:05 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Express Rider on Tue May 26 05:02:39 2020. "And in the stations themselves, signage most likely was never revised referring to the Brighton, Sea Beach, West End, Culver & 4th Ave. routes by numbers."Signage never referred to route numbers on the BMT well into the 1960s or later. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue May 26 20:40:39 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Joe V on Mon May 25 08:58:54 2020. The proposed express station had to be over or near to the trolley station and loops there, so it would have been west of Marcy Ave station, near Driggs Ave. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue May 26 20:56:04 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 18:07:41 2020. It was a different font. Actually, the "Know trains at a glance" signs used that exact same font. So did the signs at the Staten Island Ferry. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue May 26 20:56:48 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by randyo on Mon May 25 23:12:56 2020. They had JJ signs pasted over the front bulkhead route sign glass. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue May 26 20:58:37 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by randyo on Tue May 26 14:25:41 2020. IIRC the R-27/30s for the most part kept their front route and destination signs; very few received the multicolored route curtains in the destination slot. I do remember when the R-32s started being retrofitted. I was disappointed to see the front destination signs go. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue May 26 21:00:30 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Edwards! on Tue May 26 10:35:54 2020. Yes, that map showed a broken line between Broadway Junction and Rockaway Parkway that represented the JJ. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed May 27 00:52:35 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Joe V on Tue May 26 18:18:38 2020. The BMT Multis which were contemporary with the W/Fs also had that same roof design and was probably the basis for selecting the roofs of the R-10s 12s and 14s. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed May 27 01:02:36 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue May 26 20:56:48 2020. Correct, since it was planned to eliminate the JJ once 57/6 opened. At that point, the Jamaica service was called QJ 24/7. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 27 07:59:08 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue May 26 20:58:37 2020. Yep, the R-38s as well. Then of course, post-GOH, the "Cyclops" digital route sign on the 32s and 38s. At least the IRT SMEEs kept their destination signs to the very end.It's encouraging that the R-211s will feature destinations as well as route. |
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Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B) |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed May 27 10:23:36 2020, in response to Re: Questions about the history of M service (Calling SLRT, Elkeeper, Eric B), posted by randyo on Mon May 25 23:12:56 2020. Was it still QJ after the M was routed to the Southern Division? |
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