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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Feb 17 20:36:35 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Feb 17 13:58:50 2012. There's no 5 service south of Bowling Green during the hours covered by the map. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL STATION POSTER (PHOTO) |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Feb 17 20:47:01 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL STATION POSTER (PHOTO), posted by randyo on Fri Feb 17 14:22:01 2012. Randy they are likely doing work Related to the connection at Bleeker |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by The Silence on Fri Feb 17 21:45:27 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 17 14:27:11 2012. That to you could have worked better, to the rest of us what they're doing it fine. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Feb 17 21:51:12 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Feb 8 12:53:51 2012. TENS isnt part of the MTA Website its for RTO folks Only... |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL STATION POSTER (PHOTO) |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Feb 18 00:28:15 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL STATION POSTER (PHOTO), posted by ClearAspect on Fri Feb 17 20:47:01 2012. Which makes sense, and would likely need for there to be no service on the express track.The (D) to Whitehall on the other end is a bit of a surprise, but makes sense in that it allows for transfers at Metrotech and also to/from the (4)/(5) at Court Street (and at Whitehall, the (1)). |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Feb 18 02:05:52 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by The Silence on Fri Feb 17 21:45:27 2012. That was written not knowing the (D) would be running to Whitehall on one end or 2nd Avenue on the other. That move makes a lot of sense because there now will be transfers to the (2)/(3)/(4)/(5) at Court Street as well as Atlantic-Pacific AND also to the (A)/(F) at Metrotech and (1) at Whitehall. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Feb 18 04:54:30 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute, posted by Railman718 on Fri Feb 17 21:51:12 2012. I know that but as a retired MTA RTO and OP employee, I should have access. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Feb 18 08:02:14 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute, posted by randyo on Sat Feb 18 04:54:30 2012. I know that but as a retired MTA RTO and OP employee, I should have access.I think you said you did yes? The reply was for N6 Limited.. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Feb 18 15:52:09 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute, posted by Railman718 on Sat Feb 18 08:02:14 2012. I have access, but the info was missing. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Sat Feb 18 21:29:35 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute, posted by Railman718 on Sat Feb 18 08:02:14 2012. Thanks, I didn't know what TENS was, I was only replying about the regular mta.info stuff |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Feb 19 20:05:42 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Feb 17 14:46:36 2012. I think the map is fine with some details that don't have to do with the disruptions omitted. And it's probably the first time I'm actually impressed how the map and instructions are straight to the point on a NYCT leaflet. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sun Feb 19 21:58:21 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Feb 19 20:05:42 2012. The map is incomplete! The Queensbridge-Queens Plz shuttle bus isn't shown. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Feb 21 05:11:03 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Train2104 on Sun Feb 19 21:58:21 2012. Is such a shuttle planned? I didn't see any mention of it, but maybe I read too fast and missed it. It does seem like it is needed, since otherwise 21 St.-Queensbridge is cut off from any other Queens stations. But on the other hand, it never connects with local stations west of Roosevelt anyway. Maybe so few people use the station to head east into Queens that the MTA didn't feel the shuttle bus was justified.A plan that would avoid turning Queensbridge station into a dead end terminal would be to through-route the Bronx D with the Brooklyn F, and run the F from Queens to 57 St.-7 Av., where passengers could connect with the N or R. (The Q would terminate at Times Square.) Another advantage is that there would be a direct transfer between the two "D" services at Jay St.-Metrotech, rather than the "A" or "F" being needed to connect them as in the current plan. On the other hand, the two parts of what is normally the "F" line would connect only via the much slower "R" (or "N" via tunnel). And having two different lines in Brooklyn running trains labeled "D" would be confusing. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Feb 21 07:33:35 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Feb 21 05:11:03 2012. Interesting thought on the split (D), which I sort of had in my original idea where the (D) would run with the (F) to Coney Island via 8th Avenue and also with the (J) extended to Coney Island via 4th Avenue and the West End to replace that (D) in Brooklyn (the two lines would have connected at Essex-Delancy) while the (M) would have replaced the (E) via 8th Avenue on the overnights, allowing for that line to also be used to switch to the (J) for the Brooklyn run, albeit having to go down and up at Essex. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by Train2104 on Tue Feb 21 10:47:18 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Feb 21 05:11:03 2012. The shuttle IS planned, see the entry on the daily GO lookup page. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Tue Feb 21 11:12:04 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Train2104 on Tue Feb 21 10:47:18 2012. Maybe they don't want to overburden the shuttle. Instead of using alternative trains, those wanting to go further into Queens might take the Q to the shuttle when they could take take the E or F directly. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Feb 21 14:21:46 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Train2104 on Tue Feb 21 10:47:18 2012. Good. Then I think the plan they are going with is probably the best one after all. It doesn't really matter that the Bronx and Brooklyn "D" trains don't directly connect, since the pairing of the lines into one service is only for operational convenience. Nobody (or almost nobody) actually rides between the Grand Concourse and New Utrecht Ave. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Wed Feb 22 20:28:14 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute, posted by FarRock on Tue Feb 7 19:13:28 2012. I knew about the Q to 96! |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by mrw on Thu Feb 23 20:09:29 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Feb 21 05:11:03 2012. I would have avoided Queensboro stub and running the D in two segments by:- F from Queens normal to 63 St and then south on Q/R starting at 57th - At 34th St, RELABLE the F to D, continue to R to Dekalb and then normal D route to Coney Island (those needing F service in Brooklyn would to be told remain on the D and switch at MetroTech) - D from Bronx normal to West 4th via 8th Ave - At 34th St, RELABLE the D to F, and then normal F route to Coney Island (those needing D service in Brooklyn would be told remain on the F and switch at MetroTech) |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Thu Feb 23 23:01:42 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Feb 21 14:21:46 2012. That's what some people need to understand. Lines are there for operational purposes, rarely does one person ride from one end of a line to another. That became an argument with the merging of the M and V "Who's going to ride from Metropolitan Ave to Forest Hills when they could a a bus?" Ugh. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 24 00:47:05 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by mrw on Thu Feb 23 20:09:29 2012. I suppose that would work, though at 8th Avenue/34th that would mean having to go under and over from the D/F to get the other. The only concern might have been the split (F) with those who actually use it from Queens-Brooklyn, but that could have been handled by advising those riders to take the (E) to Court Square to the (G) OR during FastTrack extending the (G) in Queens to 71st-Continental to accommodate those riders who actually would be affected by a split (F). |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Feb 24 03:28:34 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 24 00:47:05 2012. I highly doubt there are enough people taking the F from end to end to justify what you are proposing. If you extend the G, you need to get the crews from somewhere. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by J trainloco on Fri Feb 24 08:11:15 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Feb 17 13:58:50 2012. The answer is:The map shows evening service patterns (with the C still running, and the 3 still going to brooklyn), but doesn't make mention of where the B and M disappeared to. There are other associated issues with that, like the 4 being shown as the only Joralemon service, but a green line still being extended down the Nostrand ave IRT. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by J trainloco on Fri Feb 24 08:18:41 2012, in response to Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Feb 17 13:07:06 2012. The one thing they could have done diferently is with the promotion of alternate stations. Most of the alternates advise you to use a Broadway or BMT or 8th Ave IND station. They could have advised people to use the 7th ave IRT, which is only one block away, and connects with the northern D at 59th-CC and the Southern D at South Ferry/Whitehall.An alternative to that would be to operate the Southern D with Eastern Division equipment and run it to Essex, so it could connect to the F for people who used 8th avenue stations. |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 24 15:30:00 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Feb 24 03:28:34 2012. No, but I would think there are some who do take the (G) from Queens to Hoyt-Schermerhorn or so. That would have in this case with a split (F) justified extending the (G) to at least Queens Plaza to connect with the (F), which will be operating via 53rd during FastTrack, |
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Re: (Manhattan Bridge)Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Feb 25 09:37:25 2012, in response to Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Feb 6 13:48:53 2012. Just seen the G.O on TENS,Looks like the work will be Centered on the Manhattan Bridge as well as Sixth Ave. Its going to be Signal Work trust me they need to do it... |
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Re:(Last B and M trains leaving West 4th) Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Feb 25 09:51:08 2012, in response to Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - OFFICIAL PLANS, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Feb 17 13:07:06 2012. Times are give or take a few minutes due to Road Conditions..Last N/B Bravo leaves West 4th at 2206 hrs.. Last S/B Bravo leaves West 4th at 2210 hrs.. Last N/B(Towards 71st) Mikey leaves West 4th at 2212 hrs... Last S/B(Towards Met) Mikey Leaves West 4th at 2211 hrs... |
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Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute |
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Posted by Transitbuff on Mon Feb 27 23:34:56 2012, in response to Re: Fasttrack on the 6th Ave B/D/F/M - - a retro reroute, posted by Neil Feldman on Mon Feb 6 21:19:37 2012. R-160s are equipped with 21st-Queensbridge signage. |
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