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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Sep 16 15:49:41 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Dupont Circle Station on Wed Sep 15 20:16:36 2010.

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they will waste the crew time and money that could and should be used to provide greater capacity between Jamaica and Penn with JC-JC service.

That would be less capacity. Jamaica Center on the E is maxed out, and you would be shortening the trains by 20% if you ran them through onto the J.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by arnine on Thu Sep 16 16:05:58 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Randyo on Thu Sep 16 15:27:12 2010.

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I agree with you. And apologize for the "and" I will try to remember that and do apologize if my statement as I wasn't attacking the people but the dept. I see how the dept. is and fully agree with u that one needs to learn thoroughly before deciding. I always tend to train folks newer than me at MNR and share as much as possible.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Randyo on Thu Sep 16 16:33:44 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by arnine on Thu Sep 16 16:05:58 2010.

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Agreed. I always ask questions as if I'm the dumbest person on the planet and answer them as if I'm talking to that same person.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Randyo on Thu Sep 16 16:34:52 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Sep 16 15:41:00 2010.

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It's not light but it will be making the same number of stops as a light train.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 16 17:07:36 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 15 23:38:26 2010.

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There is only 1 post-GOH occurance of a revenue service R32 out on the Eastern Division that I know of: During the 9/11/01 - 10/26/01 J & M run thru era to South Brooklyn, one slipped out on the M one morning and came back.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by arnine on Thu Sep 16 17:08:06 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Randyo on Thu Sep 16 16:33:44 2010.

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That is a good method and every manager needs to do it

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 16 17:08:58 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Wed Sep 15 19:55:03 2010.

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Or maybe they will DELIBERATELY make sure no R32 is used for that even if it makes sense - the trains will be so full of foamers and no room for LIRR passengers.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 16 17:23:07 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 16 17:08:58 2010.

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LOL! However, isn't there going to be more than one (P) train anyway? Theres Train Buffs who "foam" over R160s too, if they use 160s that doesn't solve that issue...

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 16 17:24:37 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Sep 16 07:14:30 2010.

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It's a real IND design flaw - no ability to turn trains back midtown, like a 5th relay track north of 59th.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 16 17:32:15 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 16 17:23:07 2010.

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For $2.25, they will be riding continually all day back and forth, and maybe into the night, with Domino Pizzas delivered to them in the mezzanines over the turnstiles.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Thu Sep 16 17:33:11 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 16 17:08:58 2010.

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the trains will be so full of foamers and no room for LIRR passengers.

I can see some of the guys now. They'll be camped outside of Sutphin Boulevard Station days in advance in order to ride the first train. But what the heck, life is meant to be enjoyed.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 16 17:35:04 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Thu Sep 16 17:33:11 2010.

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Sort of like waiting for the next I-phone at Best Buy.

Except this is cheap AND fun.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Sep 16 17:51:31 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Randyo on Thu Sep 16 04:22:44 2010.

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Speaking of trains that should terminate at Queens Plaza, how about that (G) train?

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Sep 16 21:05:10 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Sep 15 11:23:41 2010.

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Yup you beat me to it:). Actually I think they should do a combo of both: Increase E to 10TPH for Woodside/FH/KG folk, and run the P for direct to Penn.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Sep 16 21:16:32 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Sep 16 17:51:31 2010.

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You mean the MTA hasn't filled that connection in with concrete yet?

Seriously, during all those recent "all Es via 63rd" GOs the G on queens blvd would eliminate the need for a shuttle bus...

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by R32_3672 on Thu Sep 16 21:20:50 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Sep 16 21:05:10 2010.

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I would also like to know when this will take place so i can get my Camera Ready to take the (P) Train Photos.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Sep 16 21:42:01 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by R32_3672 on Thu Sep 16 21:20:50 2010.

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Getting your camera ready when you take a P? That's some sick stuff man...

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by R32_3672 on Thu Sep 16 21:49:02 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Sep 16 21:42:01 2010.

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No Not that way i mean Getting my Camera Ready to take a Photo of the [P] train, not talking about urine fluid.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 16 21:49:39 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by R32_3672 on Thu Sep 16 21:49:02 2010.

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LMAO! Had me rollin'!

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Sep 17 04:40:02 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by arnine on Thu Sep 16 09:26:53 2010.

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I'm sure it is.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Sep 17 04:44:14 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 16 02:50:10 2010.

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Yes, I know I do. It's my opinion there.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by R32_3671 on Fri Sep 17 07:33:31 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 16 17:32:15 2010.

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LMFAO, That would be crazy if That happend, I would be smart ride the damn thing early, get photo's while the foamers are on it.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Michael549 on Fri Sep 17 07:48:33 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Randyo on Thu Sep 16 16:34:52 2010.

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If it were up to me, I'd probably create the following kind of "P" service:

1) I'd have A, C and half of the E trains traveling on the 8th Avenue local tracks, where most A trains would run "express on the local tracks" during the time that the C-train runs. A and D trains could run on the express tracks north of the 59th Street station, but not south of that station for the reasons listed below.

2) I'd have the full amount of E-trains running - the almost rush hour schedule of 12 E-trains per hour.

3) Half of those E-trains (6 E-trains per hour) would run with limited stops - 34th Street-8th Avenue, 42nd Street-8th Avenue, 53rd Street-Lexington Avenue, and then non-stop to the Archer Avenue stations. The electronic signs on the train would indicate that this is a "special E-train". These special E-trains would terminate and relay on the middle track just south of the 34th Street station, between 34th Street and 23rd Street. These trains would have exclusive use of the express tracks along Eighth Avenue. I would have signage that suggests that LIRR riders use these trains.

4) The remaining half of the E-trains (6 E-trains per hour) would run as regular in service E-trains to and from the World Trade Center station. These trains would be used by regular E-train riders, as well as LIRR riders, and would make their regular stops.

5) I would not bother trying to create a "P" train along the J-line, due to the major interference that would be caused at West 4th Street just for one day.

6) Since I would be running regular E-trains, and a set of special E-trains, the demands on the crews would be something that is regular and understand, without having to involve stations in Harlem, or "dead-ended runs".

Again this is just my thoughts.
Mike


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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by R32_3671 on Sun Sep 19 17:38:05 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Michael549 on Fri Sep 17 07:48:33 2010.

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If They do this in mid october, then that would be smart, I hope Its not 100% R160's, That would be a waste.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by 9 local on Sun Sep 19 17:56:52 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Sep 16 10:46:29 2010.

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In addition, my assumption would be that LIRR would be footing the bill for this service and not NYCT, although it's all MTA in the end. It is also entirely possible that a G.O. for Queens Boulevard was already scheduled for that weekend, forcing the P train over to the J line.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by R32_3672 on Mon Sep 20 10:48:11 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Sep 16 21:49:39 2010.

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Lmao,Werd he though i mean Peeing in taking a picture, is just nasty and wrong.


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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Union Turnpike on Tue Oct 19 05:30:17 2010, in response to P Train Will Run In October, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 14 20:25:35 2010.

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Yay! A P train!

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Union Turnpike on Tue Oct 19 05:32:36 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by arnine on Tue Sep 14 20:28:11 2010.

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Soitenly it is.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Oct 19 07:59:35 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 14 20:58:52 2010.

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Great now this will mess up my Weekend jobs on the J line.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by arnine on Tue Oct 19 08:16:47 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Oct 19 07:59:35 2010.

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NETO this is a post from 9/14/10 since then they must have axed the P train as LIRR is telling people to take the E and makes no mention of the P Train. Unless, they aren't advertising it to keep crowds to LIRR folk (or try and keep railfans away), which I don't think but is possible.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Oct 19 08:19:18 2010, in response to P Train Will Run In October, posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 14 20:25:35 2010.

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Now we'll be able to take a P without using a disgusting subway rest room.

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Re: P Train Will Run In October

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 20 02:06:09 2010, in response to Re: P Train Will Run In October, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 15 23:39:17 2010.

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oh yeah ..they were in L service also...I rode a few of em on both lines..

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