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Posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jun 3 07:37:30 2010 On page 61 today, June 3, 2010.Contract R-34179, Due date 8/13/10 Title: Purchase of 60 new rapid transit operating units (290 subway cars) Desc: The MTA, acting by the NYCT, is soliciting proposals for the purchase of 50 five car operating units & 10 four car operating units. The contractor will provide all design, engineering, testing, manufacturing, delivery, warranty, training, spare parts, tools, diagnostics test equip. & other svcs necessary. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jun 3 07:39:03 2010, in response to Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jun 3 07:37:30 2010. Nice so the 5 train of 4 car units are to replace the R42's on the J and M line Sweet. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jun 3 07:48:42 2010, in response to Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jun 3 07:37:30 2010. R-34179I thought the gaps in the R-numbers were getting big, but what happened to the last 34,000? |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jun 3 07:50:45 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jun 3 07:39:03 2010. This also means that the R179s will be 60½ feet long, not 75. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jun 3 07:59:08 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jun 3 07:48:42 2010. R-34179I thought the gaps in the R-numbers were getting big, but what happened to the last 34,000? Perhaps they want five digit rolling stock contract numbers for some odd reason. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Jun 3 08:11:19 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jun 3 07:50:45 2010. These will be R179s? I thought they were gonna replace the R46 |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu Jun 3 08:14:35 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jun 3 07:48:42 2010. When something slimar came out R188 had the same thing w/ the 34, the cars will most likely be called 179s, the 34 is for something else. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jun 3 08:32:48 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Jun 3 08:11:19 2010. The rest of the R32 and R42's. |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Thu Jun 3 09:24:10 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Jun 3 08:11:19 2010. I think the R-46 still have a lot of life left in them. Maybe Train Dude can tell us if they do. They are fully stainless steel, right? |
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Posted by Tony Clifton on Thu Jun 3 09:26:15 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Jun 3 08:11:19 2010. That was never the plan. Did you get that idea from some other forum, or did you come up with it yourself? |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 3 09:38:07 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Jun 3 08:11:19 2010. How are they going to replace 700+ R46 cars??????Buzzzz, wrong statement. |
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Posted by rtype3995 on Thu Jun 3 10:43:22 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jun 3 07:39:03 2010. Noooooooooooo.......... |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jun 3 11:25:08 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jun 3 07:59:08 2010. Perhaps they want five digit rolling stock contract numbers for some odd reason.The 34 is part of the official contract number, e.g. R34142. Nothing new. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jun 3 11:36:34 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jun 3 07:48:42 2010. I suspect the "34" refers to the division within NYCT, i.e. RTOLACMTA does something similar with their operating divisions. My friend who is a B/O at MTA division 10 (Gateway) officially works in MTA department 3210, while mechanics and service attendants at that same yard are in department 3310 (or is it 3110?) You get the idea. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 3 11:54:48 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Jun 3 08:11:19 2010. Before the R46s can be replaced though, the remaining R32s and R42s must be replaced first. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 3 11:55:52 2010, in response to Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jun 3 07:37:30 2010. Because the MTA didn't get the number of cars needed for R32/42 replacement correct (or because the R44s ended up going ahead of some of the 32s and 42s). |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 3 12:39:09 2010, in response to Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jun 3 07:37:30 2010. This is the R-179 contract for the next generation of new cars, probably to fully replace the R32, R42 and allow for the R44 scrapping to begin. Interesting to see the 100 "4 car" units, most likely for the C line. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Jun 3 12:52:35 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 3 11:54:48 2010. Logically, yes; but they're retiring R44s already... |
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Posted by Randyo on Thu Jun 3 12:57:29 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 3 12:39:09 2010. The 10 X 4 car units are just about the right number to replace the remaining Eastern Div R-42s. In all likelihood, the 5 car units will enable the C to go to 600 ft trains. That would basically mean that IND and BMT Southern lines will be 600 ft trains and BMT Eastern trains will be 480 ft trains. |
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Posted by Tony Clifton on Thu Jun 3 13:22:36 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 3 12:39:09 2010. Not 100, and not specifically for the C. And the R44 cars are already almost history. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 3 15:11:28 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Randyo on Thu Jun 3 12:57:29 2010. Those cars were to be replaced by the recently delivered 4 car units, no?100 seems excessive to replace 40 R42's anyway. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jun 3 16:22:16 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 3 15:11:28 2010. M to Forest Hills means the current 50 R42s will have to stay for a while.10 X 4 = 40, not 100. 40 R160As is not excessive at all to replace 50 R42s. The R44s will be gone long before the first R179 is built. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jun 3 16:24:42 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Jun 3 12:52:35 2010. R44s have significant problems not seen in the R32 or R42 fleet. It is logical that one would retire the cars that NEED to be retired before older ones that could hold on for a while. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jun 3 18:25:07 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jun 3 07:48:42 2010. The difference between R34160 and R34179 is smaller than the difference between R34068 and R34142. Although considering the difference in time between these four orders, such would make sense. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jun 3 22:30:08 2010, in response to Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jun 3 07:37:30 2010. Hmm, as for numbering...although the R-179s will almost certainly replace the R-32s (and 42s), for awhile at least, those types will be in the fleet together, which means none of the 32s' numbers (3350-3949) can be used. If they skip over the R-110B, they could start at 3010 (or 3011) and end at 3299/3300. The R-44s will probably be gone by the time the 179s arrive, but that would not free up enough numbers (pinned in by the R-68As (up to 5200) and the R-46s (starting at 5478)). Either that, or skip over to the 4000s (which is clear up to 4787). |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jun 4 01:18:13 2010, in response to Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jun 3 07:37:30 2010. 
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Jun 4 07:21:35 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jun 3 22:30:08 2010. If they skip over the R-110B, they could start at 3010 (or 3011) and end at 3299/3300.Or they could remove all number boards from remaining R-110B's and make renumbering sequence as #3000-#3290 or #3001-#3291. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Jun 4 07:22:12 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices (Photo of it), posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jun 4 01:18:13 2010. PROFF!Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Jun 4 08:03:45 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Jun 4 07:21:35 2010. >>>"...and make renumbering sequence as #3000-#3290 or #3001-#3291."<<<Actually, it would be either #3000-#3289 or #3001-#3290. Anyway, they would be recycling the car numbers recycled as last used on the R-10's. I wonder if MTA NYC Transit would put an optional clause in the R-179 contract to receive additional cars, just as in the R-160 contract(s), but probably not way too much. -William A. Padron ["a.c.f."] |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 4 13:25:37 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by William A. Padron on Fri Jun 4 08:03:45 2010. Too bad the reincarnated 3000-series cars won't have trigger boxes or a racing stripe paint scheme. Now if they were to run on the Abbott, it would be a small consolation. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Jun 4 19:31:13 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 4 13:25:37 2010. Too bad the reincarnated 3000-series cars won't have trigger boxes or a racing stripe paint scheme.Too bad they won't have small fans and green illuminated destination signs ! Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 4 21:14:20 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Jun 4 19:31:13 2010. Or caps and triggers! (right, Uncle Selkirk?) :) |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Jun 5 18:38:01 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Jun 4 19:31:13 2010. Actually, if the B of T had waited another year or so, the R-10s might very well have looked like a 60 ft long 10 ft wide R-15 with axiflow fans, porthole door windows and inside cab door controls. I actually think that the maroon with silver and beige racing stripes paint scheme of the R-15s (which was also used on the TA acquired SIRT cars) was one of the nicest paint schemes on the NYCTS. It ranks up there with the turquoise and white of the R36s and R-10s. I also do like the green illuminated destination signs that came on evereything up to and including the R-38s and was sorry to see them eliminated. I was also disappointed when in the late 1960s, the TA started replacing the green sign tubes with white ones since I felt it took away from the appearance of the cars. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sat Jun 5 19:37:08 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Randyo on Sat Jun 5 18:38:01 2010. I agree. I like the maroon and beige color scheme. It's nice to be able to see it on display at the Transit Museum. |
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Posted by Randyo on Sun Jun 6 02:31:26 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sat Jun 5 19:37:08 2010. Although the restored car is close, the actual shade of maroon on both the R-15s and the R-17s was darker than on the restored cars. I understand that the color on the transit museum cars was made deliberately lighter so that it would show up better in the incandescent lighting of the museum. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Jun 6 17:21:11 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Jun 4 07:21:35 2010. If they aren't ready to 'get rid of' the R110B, then maybe they could put a 1 in front of the number so they can free up that number group. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Jun 6 18:04:23 2010, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Jun 3 07:39:03 2010. More new trains for NETO to run slowly!! :-D LOL |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 12 12:35:32 2011, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices, posted by R30A on Thu Jun 3 16:24:42 2010. this was something several of us stated way back when..about how unsafe the R44's were..and they should be replaced by the 160's BEFORE the R38/40/42's... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 12 12:41:50 2011, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices (Photo of it), posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jun 4 01:18:13 2010. I think they should order a helluva lot more 4 car units. Use them on the C line. That increases the pool of 4-car units should ENY need more of them for service expansion. A 10 car train can reaplace an 8 car train on the C, the opposite cannot be done on the J/M/L/Z. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 12 12:51:37 2011, in response to Re: Something Of Interest In Today's NY Post Legal Notices (Photo of it), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 12 12:41:50 2011. they should stop this stupid linking nonsense..its killing capacity.Married pairs or singles.. look what this "linked sets" did to the east..and its intergration with the rest of the system.. |
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