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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 10:29:57 2010 Only about 50 showed up at South Ferry for the trip. It was a good 'un! Bunch of photo ops along the way:  Even got a little sun:   The BL20G came off at Atlantic & ran light to Tottenville:   Run around:    Temporary coupler on R44 & extended shank coupler on the BL:  No desktop controls here!  Builders plate:  ECI exemption plate dated 11/08:  We ran express to Clifton for the shop tour, which I'll cover in another thread:  I also stopped by Grand Central:  Shot new PATH cars at Newark:  Before returning to Union & home: 
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 18 10:44:48 2010, in response to PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 10:29:57 2010. Great shots, Kevin, and glad the rain held off for ya.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 11:04:25 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 18 10:44:48 2010. Thanks Fred. Had just a few drops around Great Kills. It looked like we were gonna have a soggy day but the gods of foam were with us! |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sun Apr 18 11:24:22 2010, in response to PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 10:29:57 2010. Great photos, dude.Mike |
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Posted by ebtmikado on Sun Apr 18 12:21:22 2010, in response to PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 10:29:57 2010. Looks like you had a good time, Kevin. Great photos. Thanks.Lee |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Apr 18 12:44:13 2010, in response to PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 10:29:57 2010. Awesome pics. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Apr 18 14:38:49 2010, in response to PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 10:29:57 2010. OMG @ the BLG20 hooked up to the R44! Awsome photos, all the trains pictured look great. I wish NYCT could get BLG20s, yea yea I know there an overkill and most likely would'nt fit in the system but it would be nice to see lol. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sun Apr 18 15:01:11 2010, in response to PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 10:29:57 2010. Great shots! Is it just me or does the Ohio Brass to MCB compromise coupler look weaker then the ones that NYCT has? |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 15:13:08 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Apr 18 14:38:49 2010. I wish NYCT could get BLG20sPut the G at the end. BTW the MTU/Detroit Diesel V12 that powers these locomotives sounds different than anything else on rails that I've ever heard. Thanks for the compliment :o) |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 15:15:18 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sun Apr 18 15:01:11 2010. Is it just me or does the Ohio Brass to MCB compromise coupler look weaker then the ones that NYCT has?This is the first one I've seen up close :o) |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 16:00:49 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 15:13:08 2010. There are about 250 German Diesel locomotives in class 218 I believe who sound exactly same ;-) |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 16:06:59 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 16:00:49 2010. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWbGtmnr5S4&feature=related |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Apr 18 16:53:50 2010, in response to PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 10:29:57 2010. What does the SIRR have to do with woman's rights? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 18 16:54:57 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Apr 18 16:53:50 2010. You have it all wrong. This was a trip about pitching stats. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Apr 18 16:56:41 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 18 16:54:57 2010. Oh! To that new Ballpark station, I get it now. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 18 16:56:51 2010, in response to PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 10:29:57 2010. Very nice photos!But for the record "Temporary coupler on R44 & extended shank coupler on the BL:" is incorrect. The device between the knuckle coupler and the Waugh coupler is called either an "adapter" or a "compromise coupler" |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 17:01:56 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 18 16:56:51 2010. The device between the knuckle coupler and the Waugh coupler is called either an "adapter" or a "compromise coupler"Thanks.... |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 17:08:48 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 18 16:54:57 2010. This was a trip about pitching stats.The ticket sez "New York Division ERA".... Wonder how the other divisions stats compare :o) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Apr 18 17:31:47 2010, in response to PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 10:29:57 2010. Nice photos, what kind of bells do the BL20G's have? Also, can any passengers on the trip tell me if the ride was comfortable since they don't have HEP? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 17:50:19 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Apr 18 17:31:47 2010. They have same Ebell as the BL20gh.They do not need HEP as the cars that SIR has do not have HEP input. The Auxiliaries on the R-44's is powered by third rail. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 18 18:05:01 2010, in response to PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 10:29:57 2010. Nice shots! I love that paint scheme on 776. I wish NJT had a nice paint scheme like that. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Apr 18 18:10:02 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 17:50:19 2010. Oops, I meant to say what kind of horn they have, thanks for the other answers though. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sun Apr 18 18:12:36 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 18 16:56:51 2010. Is the one that was pictured the same as the one that all the MoW diesels carry? |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Apr 18 18:15:41 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sun Apr 18 15:01:11 2010. That coupler does look a little thinner then the ones NYCTA uses. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 18:16:11 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 17:50:19 2010. A little addition to Dutch's comments....At soon to be closed Atlantic, the diesel cut off & ran light to Tottenville & the R44s ran under their own power to the end of track. Close inspection of the coupling conversion reveals no brakepipe connection or electrical connection of any kind. Communication was done by radio or horn signals.  SIRT's BL20G units have no HEP. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 18 18:28:57 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sun Apr 18 18:12:36 2010. The one most NYCT locos carry is the knuckle to H2C adapter. That's the coupler that was used on most equipment predating the R-142. Most of the cars with the OB or Waugh type coupler carry their own adapter. R-44s never had adapters aboard, though. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 18 18:31:33 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 15:15:18 2010. It may be but remember that NYCT trains are, as a rule longer than the ones used on SIRR. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sun Apr 18 18:35:52 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 18 18:28:57 2010. Ah ok, so when a diesel tows and R44 do they use an OH to H2C then an H2C to MCB comp.? I could have sworn that the diesels carry 2 comps. H2C/MCB and OB/MCB but i could be wrong. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 18 18:54:09 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sun Apr 18 18:35:52 2010. R-44s never get towed :)There are waugh/MCB coupler adapters around so a diesel would use them if necessary. Actually, with every car on the A-Line having an OB/Waugh type coupler, it's not likely that an adapter would be needed. Incidently we rarely tow. Unless there is a strong reason, in NYCT we always push if a train is disabled. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Apr 18 19:22:05 2010, in response to PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 10:29:57 2010. good shooting !excellent |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sun Apr 18 19:24:46 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 18 18:54:09 2010. Ah, you and your 44s.Thanks for the explanation on that. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 19:33:46 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 18:16:11 2010. weird they can move occupied passenger cars, without brakes or breakaway protection, on a FRA controlled railroad. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Apr 18 19:41:29 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 18 18:05:01 2010. Yikes!! You like that scheme???? Still looks like an Amtrak copycat!!! :-P |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Apr 18 19:43:21 2010, in response to PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by kp5308 on Sun Apr 18 10:29:57 2010. Awesome shots, as expected, K!! :-)You lucky bastard!! I wish I could have caught the Fan Trip!! :-( I guess I had to settle for moving my own "Tomato Cans"!! :-D Gald to see you had a good trip there!! And nice NS shot!! Double thumbs up, K!! :-) |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 18 19:44:28 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Apr 18 19:41:29 2010. I like the thin red stripe. And the way the scheme coincides with the bombs on Metro North. There's no rhyme or reason to NJT's scheme(s). |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 19:45:21 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Apr 18 19:41:29 2010. Its a MNCR copycat, the 4 units were initially labeled Metro North by mistake, MTA decided to only change lettering. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Apr 18 19:45:24 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 19:33:46 2010. Is there some kind of waiver that can allow for this under specific situations?? |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Apr 18 19:47:39 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 18 19:44:28 2010. I still say MNR should make up a Heritage scheme set much as UP has, with a paint scheme from each of the predecessors donned on select locomotives, and yes, I wouldn't mind seeing one of such on a BL-shit too!!NJT should consider that too!! A GP40PH-2 in CNJ, an ALP-46 in a Pennsy scheme, something like that (or whatever creativity inspires!!) :-D |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Apr 18 19:48:31 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 19:45:21 2010. Yeah, that was a major league "D'OH!!" :-DI agree, we can call this the MNR copycat!! |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 18 20:01:53 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 19:33:46 2010. Since SIRT is no longer connected to the National rail system, the line is no longer under FRA compliance. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 20:08:36 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Apr 18 19:47:39 2010. As per former President Donald Nelson," why in gods name would we glorify the railroads that went bankrupt and screwed MTA in first place.We took to much effort, and Money to get away from that bunch of idiots" |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 20:24:44 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Apr 18 19:45:24 2010. no way, this sounds like a homecooked deal, with no sanctions by brass or FRA.no waivers on brakes or brake test. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 20:26:15 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 18 20:01:53 2010. Wrong. it is still a intertstate carrier and their engineers and equipment are FRA certified. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 18 20:31:02 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Apr 18 19:47:39 2010. Sort of like these?:   The picture was not taken by me, nor were they photo shopped by me... |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Apr 18 20:32:13 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 18 20:31:02 2010. I like those schemes |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 20:33:19 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 18 20:01:53 2010. FRA oversight Unlike the New York City Transit Authority (NYCTA), SIRTOA is subject to rules of the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) but operates under a waiver which permits it to exempt itself from certain rules of equipment and operation usually required by the FRA.[3][16] This FRA status complicates any plan for combined freight and passenger operation. The SIR shares a similar status with the Port Authority Trans-Hudson (PATH) system, which is also an FRA railroad running on a somewhat different waiver. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staten_Island_Railway |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 18 20:34:41 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by arnine on Sun Apr 18 20:32:13 2010. Yup, those were posted on Railroad.net a few years ago. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 18 20:36:31 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 20:26:15 2010. Please supply PROFF. SIRT lost their connection to the outside rail system when the North Shore line (which connected SIRT to the outside world) was abandoned. The only part of the old North Shore line still in use is the short section from the SIRT terminal to the new ball park. |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Apr 18 20:37:43 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 18 20:34:41 2010. It is a shame NJT doesn't do schemes from the past |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 18 20:38:40 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS: Staten Island ERA Trip, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Apr 18 20:33:19 2010. Wikipedia is not correct. See my reply asking for PROFF. |
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