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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Apr 3 21:57:29 2010, in response to What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 3 05:11:34 2010.

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7th Ave/53rd street/IND by far. Worst renovation ever, save for 137/CC and 3rd Ave/149th st.

Not only the renovation sucked, there are homeless people sleeping there with the worst stench. The station is still unsafe, two murders . . .the infamous one I almost saw in 1990 and the seathog argument a couple of months ago.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Apr 3 21:59:45 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 3 21:32:41 2010.

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And no ADA access yet. I was there earlier this morning from my "walk" along the L line. As you can gather from what I did, I got the best results, lol.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Concourse Express on Sat Apr 3 22:00:06 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 3 21:53:37 2010.

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Ah, thanks for that info.

As a semi-regular user of 23 St - Ely Ave, I can agree that it is one of the more attractive IND stations. Unfortunately, the same can't be said for most other IND stations.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Concourse Express on Sat Apr 3 22:03:47 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Apr 3 21:57:29 2010.

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Not only the renovation sucked, there are homeless people sleeping there with the worst stench. The station is still unsafe, two murders . . .

I agree with the crappy renovation comment; the station looks worse than some un-renovated stations! As for it's safety, I'd say it isn't that bad, on account of using it for transfers for nearly 7 years. (Then again, most of these transfers took place during rush hour; is the station that bad during off-hours?)

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Apr 3 22:03:53 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 3 21:32:41 2010.

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Yep. Screaming religious zealots. One of the reasons I stopped transferring to the L train from the A at the Junction years ago in my high school days. Of course, back then it was still "B'way-East New York" on the signs. It's bad enough these nuts still come to your door. I swear, like a fly on the wall...

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Concourse Express on Sat Apr 3 22:09:11 2010, in response to What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 3 05:11:34 2010.

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Overall, probably 7th Ave - 53 St, on account of its condition and stench.

Around my neck of the woods, I'd say 182-183 Sts on the Concourse Line; columns, wall tiles, and plat edges are rotting away (then again, that goes for most Concourse Line stations, but it's really bad at 182-183).

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Apr 3 22:11:07 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Concourse Express on Sat Apr 3 22:09:11 2010.

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Tremont, 161 and Fordham don't look too bad.

205 is far worse than 182-183 and 155-8 gets honorable mention.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 3 22:13:07 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Apr 3 16:46:03 2010.

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That station was actually darker after the rehab. Ugh.

Broadway-Lafayette, too.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Concourse Express on Sat Apr 3 22:17:21 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Apr 3 22:11:07 2010.

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Tremont, 161 and Fordham don't look too bad.

Tremont and 161 were extensively renovated some time ago; they are among the best-looking Concourse stations. Fordham Rd, my home stop, isn't too bad but the wall tiles are coming undone in many locations.

205 is indeed in bad shape, yet somehow I don't think it's the worst. Mayhap I haven't examined the extent of the decay (or I'm noticing it more at stations I use/pass by more frequently)...

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 3 22:28:11 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Concourse Express on Sat Apr 3 22:09:11 2010.

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53rd and 7th is far from my favorite. That looooong hike form the lower level to the street is a killer.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by INDependent on Sat Apr 3 22:32:29 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Concourse Express on Sat Apr 3 22:09:11 2010.

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Except of course the YS 161 station which is sparkly clean. I guess the Yankmees have pull.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Apr 3 22:37:56 2010, in response to What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 3 05:11:34 2010.

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That station on the 4/5 platform smells, but I like that station better than the 51st-Lex station.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Apr 3 22:39:20 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by INDependent on Sat Apr 3 22:32:29 2010.

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Yeah, wouldn't want the station there be a mess..

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Apr 3 22:42:02 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Concourse Express on Sat Apr 3 22:03:47 2010.

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I've used it once at night like 9 or 10pm, it was ok. Other times the station doesn't look too dangerous. I guess just chalk it up to coincidence.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Apr 3 22:43:36 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Concourse Express on Sat Apr 3 22:00:06 2010.

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Yeah, the Bronx needs some love, big time. The only good thing is the yard which really takes care of their cars.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Apr 3 22:45:23 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by mcorivervsaf on Sat Apr 3 16:08:06 2010.

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Last time I was at 205th was in either 2005 or 2006. The place looked like a cave with stuff growing from the ceiling.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Apr 3 22:46:35 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 3 21:54:56 2010.

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Also one of the only 2 places left with gap fillers. TS S being the other.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Concourse Express on Sat Apr 3 22:56:32 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Apr 3 22:43:36 2010.

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IAWTP; The Bronx is getting some love now with the rehab projects underway on the els.

As for the Concourse Line, before times got tough I read somewhere on MTA's Web Site that Kingsbridge Rd was set to get ADA access and 182-183 Sts was to be rehabilitated (I believe this was part of the old 2008-2013 Capital Plan that was changed due to the financial crisis; not sure where these stations stand w.r.t. the 2010-2014 Plan).

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Apr 3 22:58:17 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by R38 4149 on Sat Apr 3 14:16:09 2010.

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Agreed.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 3 23:02:17 2010, in response to What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 3 05:11:34 2010.

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Any station that's closed or doesn't exist. So LGA is one of my least favorite stations.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Apr 3 23:02:24 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Apr 3 20:20:02 2010.

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I still think that they could've at least built the first leg of the SAS rather than to build the 6th Av express tracks.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Apr 3 23:04:11 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by BarnYard on Sat Apr 3 12:15:34 2010.

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Sutphin compared to Parsons-Archer looks much nicer. Parsons ll is terribly dim and dark. That is a station that could really use those new lights the NTT have.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Concourse Express on Sat Apr 3 23:04:29 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 3 23:02:17 2010.

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Any station that's closed or doesn't exist.

Actually, if you disregard the grime and graffiti, many of NYC's abandoned subway stations are nicely preserved...

...and of course there's the marvel known as City Hall Loop.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 3 23:09:31 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 3 19:43:02 2010.

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What? I wasn't expecting you to say any station along the J line.



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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Apr 3 23:12:29 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Concourse Express on Sat Apr 3 22:56:32 2010.

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That's a shame... the more they put it off, the more the station will need in repairs.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 3 23:32:21 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Concourse Express on Sat Apr 3 23:04:29 2010.

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Got a love/hate relationship with City Hall loop station. The hate part has to do with not being able to use it.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by dinky on Sun Apr 4 01:22:00 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Apr 3 21:57:29 2010.

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Agreed. Truly nasty station.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by B1bus on Sun Apr 4 13:02:28 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 3 20:42:49 2010.

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Is, or did the escalator gone, or going?
You know what I mean.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by B1bus on Sun Apr 4 13:03:36 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Apr 3 21:59:45 2010.

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An elevator is coming to Bay Pkwy, D line. Staircase by TD bank has been eliminated and big trucks are planted on the sidewalk.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Apr 4 23:35:09 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 3 22:13:07 2010.

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I'm still mad at the Bway-Lafayette rehab's designers, for covering over the unique powder blue tile there. At least they could have duplicated the original colour on the panels they erected. That was the only instance of that blue scheme in the entire system.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Apr 4 23:40:44 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 3 21:53:37 2010.

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IIRC - 23rd-Ely shows Red tile, which is in the correct position - between the Purple at Queens Plaza and the other Red Family stations to the west (Lex, 5th Avenue, 47-50 and 42nd-Bryant Park).


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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 4 23:51:49 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 3 23:09:31 2010.

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Bowery is a close second. I also dislike the two Archer Ave stations.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 4 23:57:18 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Apr 4 23:35:09 2010.

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They also chipped off all the tiles off the steel support columns that made the station somewhat unique (only half of Jay St and Roosevelt Ave have such tiled columns).



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(I think the train operator here is letting the photog know he's groovy, man)

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 5 07:32:53 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 4 23:57:18 2010.

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I also preferrec the light blue/aqua tile band that used to be at Bway Lafayette as opposed to the current new color.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 5 07:33:46 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Apr 4 23:35:09 2010.

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Heh, funny, I just mentioned the same thing to Chris in my other post, and that was before I read your post! I totally agree.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Apr 5 07:34:47 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Apr 4 23:40:44 2010.

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If you consider it "red", I guess you are right. In any event, the actual color (yes, I guess it's in a red scheme, although it isnt a true red) is one of the most attractive in the system.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 5 08:03:08 2010, in response to What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 3 05:11:34 2010.

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Van Alst on the G and 205th on the Concourse Line are tied in my book for least favorite. I think being underground amplifies that effect, as even elevated stations that are in disrepair aren't as off-putting to me.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Apr 5 17:02:55 2010, in response to What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 3 05:11:34 2010.

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I think Hoyt-Schermerhorn wins that award. It's old, very creepy, especially during the owl hours and always leaking. Entering and exiting the station is also a pain. Ironically, there is a police station in the mezzanine.

Wall Street-William Street wins second place, the platforms are dangerously narrow. It's a 12-9 waiting to happen.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Randyo on Mon Apr 5 18:13:19 2010, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sat Apr 3 16:51:21 2010.

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Red is correct since that is the color of the next express station 168 St and doing a 207 style tile band at 175 St would be a nice touch.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Apr 5 18:57:13 2010, in response to What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 3 05:11:34 2010.

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This thread was mentioned today in SecondAvenueSagas.com

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 10:18:42 2011, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Randyo on Sat Apr 3 14:20:47 2010.

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in reality, after Mayor Hylan left office, the concept of the IND changed from being competition for the BMT to a possible extension of existing BMT lines.

But long before unification they wanted to massively extend the BMT/IRT Flushing and Astoria Lines (map).

And we see here that the later version is more anti-BMT in places.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 20 09:26:07 2011, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 10:18:42 2011.

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So no-one got any theories as to why Flushing and Astoria extensions featured in the Second System?

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 20 10:16:09 2011, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Fred G on Mon Apr 5 08:03:08 2010.

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63/Lex on the (F). Driven VERY deep, you have to navigate a series of LONG escalators to reach your platform, and they should have put a stop to orange brickwork after the 49th/7th disaster...



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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by SLRT on Sat Aug 20 10:19:33 2011, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 20 10:16:09 2011.

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Getting to the 6th Avenue platforms at 34th Street was always a nightmare with its multiple ramps. A rat in a maze has more fun.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 20 10:22:49 2011, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by SLRT on Sat Aug 20 10:19:33 2011.

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I can't stand those ramps either! I always choose my staircase or escalator with care when exiting the plats there, lest I become trapped in Ramp Hell...LOL!

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 20 10:28:25 2011, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 20 10:22:49 2011.

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There was a plan of 34/6 posted once. Does anyone still have it?

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Aug 20 10:40:52 2011, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 20 10:16:09 2011.

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49/7 was not built by MTA is was built by the landowner above. It was an experiment in building a more quiet station. Hey... back in the '60s it was a good idea.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 20 10:41:32 2011, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Aug 20 10:28:25 2011.

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As a pre-1967 term, or after the express track extension to West 4?

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Aug 20 10:41:52 2011, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 20 10:22:49 2011.

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LION loved those ramps. And there was a paperback book store half way down the ramp.

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Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Aug 20 10:42:26 2011, in response to Re: What Is Your Least Favorite Subway Station In NYC?, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Aug 20 10:40:52 2011.

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Yes, but those orange bricks are too LOUD...LOL!

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