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Posted by arnine on Mon Feb 15 20:20:52 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by fisk ave jim on Mon Feb 15 20:08:44 2010. If 1 or 2 diesels are in diesel mode in GCT I can tell you as a MNR worker it will not be noticeable on the lower level hell, by the time I walk from the northend where a diesel is in diesel mode, by the time I get to the southend I no longer smell it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 15 21:49:22 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by arnine on Mon Feb 15 20:20:52 2010. Hmm. When they used to let the FL9s run on the upper level, they were smellable at the other end of the train. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 15 22:43:37 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Feb 15 19:41:05 2010. No restrictions on diesels in park ave tunnelsSince they used to run steam through there, I wouldn't have thought so. |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Feb 16 01:13:55 2010, in response to Re: Future MNR New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Feb 14 14:55:29 2010. The Amtrak P32AC-DMs use a retractable overrunning third rail so it should be possible to simply retrofit that third rail shoe design to a pool of maybe 5 or 6 MNRR P32s if the MTA were to so desire using that method to reach NYP. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Feb 16 03:29:23 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 15 21:49:22 2010. It's been a while since the FL9s been in GCT but yes u can smell it on the southend but generally not the Gennies |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 16 10:55:14 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 15 22:43:37 2010. The Park Avenue line is essentially an open air line as far as fumes go. There are lots of grates, and in post places the tunnel is no deeper than the thickness of those grates.LION is told that it used to be all open air until somebody placed a road over the top of it. ROAR |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Feb 16 12:15:17 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by arnine on Mon Feb 15 19:30:27 2010. I see a bunch of people explained why to you while I was away, so no more comments from me. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 16 13:37:59 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by arnine on Mon Feb 15 19:44:27 2010. If straight diesel could use the North River Tunnels and NYP, then Lehigh Valley diesels would have gone there, and NJDOT's "Raritan Valley Line" back in 1967 under the CNJ. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Feb 16 13:44:10 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 16 13:37:59 2010. Got it thanks |
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Posted by Michael Wares on Tue Feb 16 13:44:15 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Feb 15 19:41:05 2010. Has the law been changed?http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/steam-laws.html |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Feb 16 13:47:02 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Michael Wares on Tue Feb 16 13:44:15 2010. That law was I believe regulating steam not diesel I can be wrong though |
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Posted by Michael Wares on Tue Feb 16 13:55:09 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by arnine on Tue Feb 16 13:47:02 2010. Steam or anything that involves "combustion in the motors themselves." |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Feb 16 14:23:26 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Michael Wares on Tue Feb 16 13:55:09 2010. I am not a mechanic so can't say for sure but there are no fires in a diesel engine. I think diesel is ok in the Park Ave as DRN said, it is a self-imposed rule that MNR doesn't do it, but I can tell you as an MNR employee it does happen that they go thourgh in diesel mode not all the time but it does happen. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 16 14:57:39 2010, in response to Re: Future MNR New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 13 15:10:08 2010. Problem was that the LIRR was already committed to third rail when the PRR decided to go with overhead wire in the late 20's. The LIRR simply did not have the money to do the same, and purchase new cars. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 16 14:59:39 2010, in response to Re: Future MNR New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by fisk ave jim on Sat Feb 13 17:58:27 2010. The LIRR station for ESA will be totally separate from the MNCR operation. There won't even be a track connection. The LIRR and Amtrak basically share the same complex. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Feb 16 15:11:57 2010, in response to Re: Future MNR New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by WillD on Tue Feb 16 01:13:55 2010. Much more than that if they want hourly service daily. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 16 15:13:25 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by arnine on Tue Feb 16 14:23:26 2010. there are no fires in a diesel engineThere are inside the cylinders, otherwise the motor wouldn't run. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Feb 16 15:14:42 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 16 15:13:25 2010. Correct. It is called an Internal Combustion Engine.ROAR |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Feb 16 16:08:41 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 16 15:13:25 2010. Ok I learned something new today, so maybe the law was changed. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 16 16:11:10 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by arnine on Tue Feb 16 16:08:41 2010. Well, the fires inside a diesel engine's cylinders are collectively much smaller than the fire in a steam locomotive's firebox, but the gases it puts out are as noxious. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Feb 16 16:13:02 2010, in response to Re: No Future MN New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 16 16:11:10 2010. hmmm, ok did not realize that thanks. :) |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Feb 16 23:07:26 2010, in response to Re: Future MNR New Haven Line Service to Penn Station, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 16 14:57:39 2010. The PRR had comitted to third rail operation from Manhattan Transfer through to Sunnyside Yard and converted their operration to high voltage AC. It is not unforseeable that the LIRR could also have converted to AC power. |
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