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R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Nov 9 18:45:37 2009

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Seen these pics when browsing on Dave's site..Link

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by joe c on Mon Nov 9 19:02:11 2009, in response to R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Nov 9 18:45:37 2009.

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207 is getting the arinines ready for their hoilday service runs.



til next time

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Nov 9 20:45:05 2009, in response to R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Nov 9 18:45:37 2009.

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Too bad the roof didn't have the rust scrapped off and re-painted.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 9 21:29:33 2009, in response to R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Nov 9 18:45:37 2009.

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I guess I better head to the Transit Museum.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 9 21:32:07 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Nov 9 20:45:05 2009.

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Maybe it wasn't a priority for them to work on the roof. Nonetheless, it should still have been cleaned.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by bklyntekgeek on Mon Nov 9 22:10:12 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 9 21:32:07 2009.

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Awesome!!

Just in time around the week of my birthday.

I'm definitely going there this Friday afternoon with my fiancee.

I miss those trains :-(

It'll be a great belated b-day celebration by going to see them at the museum.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by bklyntekgeek on Mon Nov 9 22:33:14 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by bklyntekgeek on Mon Nov 9 22:10:12 2009.

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Here's the video of them at the transit museum from NYCRedbird on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSP1bQUwvjg

Thanks for the footage bud !

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by 33rd Street on Mon Nov 9 23:00:25 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by lrg5784 on Mon Nov 9 21:29:33 2009.

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Same here. I'm going to try to go there on Sunday.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Nov 10 05:12:08 2009, in response to R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Nov 9 18:45:37 2009.

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Are these the slants dedicated as museum cars ?

Bill Newkirk

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by 7 Local on Tue Nov 10 06:42:52 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Nov 10 05:12:08 2009.

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Yes, they are

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by Fytton on Tue Nov 10 06:59:40 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by 7 Local on Tue Nov 10 06:42:52 2009.

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It would be nice if these Slants (or maybe others, if others are preserved) coyuld be returned to original condition, without all the clutter of chains and guard rails on the sloping ends. As delivered they were sleek and neat in appearance.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 10 07:10:33 2009, in response to R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Nov 9 18:45:37 2009.

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Nothing against slants, but any train should have to wait at least one entire year after it's last run before going to the museum. It's not nostalgic seeing a train that was in service this year.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 10 07:14:53 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by Fytton on Tue Nov 10 06:59:40 2009.

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Yep, I've been saying that for years. I'd love it if they did that.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 07:20:36 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by Fytton on Tue Nov 10 06:59:40 2009.

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That would be great. It probably would have to wait until more funding comes in. IMHO the TM should try and recruit volunteers to help preserve their cars. This would accelerate restoration efforts. I know at one time IINM they did, but from what I understand they no longer do, but think it would be nice if they could do it again.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 10 07:23:59 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by Fytton on Tue Nov 10 06:59:40 2009.

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that is a good idea. problem with the guard rails(I assume you mean Pantograph gates) is that if they ever had to move those trains around, those rails must be on the train.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 10 07:50:31 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by Fytton on Tue Nov 10 06:59:40 2009.

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I'm in favor of that plan, but it would be kinda hard to do. They'd have to restore the lights in the middle (I think R40s and R42s had them; I may be confusing them with the R32s and R38s). And they'd have to bring back the doors with the original window length.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by jrf2 on Tue Nov 10 08:07:35 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by lrg5784 on Tue Nov 10 07:50:31 2009.

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If they do any restoration, they should out in the original front roll signs (The ones that they said you could see from a mile away) !!

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by Fytton on Tue Nov 10 09:33:54 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 10 07:23:59 2009.

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'..problem with the guard rails(I assume you mean Pantograph gates) is that if they ever had to move those trains around, those rails must be on the train.'

I realize that. That's way I thought that it would be nice to preserve another couple of Slants, non-operational, so that they could look like the original design, while the museum pair could be kept 'street-legal' for use in heritage-train running.


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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 10 09:38:25 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by Fytton on Tue Nov 10 09:33:54 2009.

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I'm not so sure he's correct. The pantograph gates and grab bars are there to prevent mid-train boarding and to help with moving between cars. If a slant was always to run as the first car of the train, would that extra equipment be needed? I don't know. Hopefully the answer is no.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 10:18:00 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 10 09:38:25 2009.

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Yes but what about the back? Unless you use just 2 cars.

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Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by YoungNYCSubwayFan on Tue Nov 10 10:19:32 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 10 09:38:25 2009.

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a) Does anyone know offhand how often the subway cars get moved in and out of Court Street (aka Transit Museum)? I am assuming "as necessary", however I would like to know, if possible.
b) Does anyone know for sure if the "Holiday Nostalgia Train" will be running 11/29 to 12/27 (Sundays only from 10 to 5:30 along the "V" line)?

Looking forward to these answers.

-YoungNYCSubwayFan

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 10 10:47:18 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 10:18:00 2009.

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That why I said only the first car. One car of the two car pair could be restored to as delivered condition, and the other car left in the post-rebuilt condition, or at least the post-1 year of service condition.

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 11:21:21 2009, in response to Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by YoungNYCSubwayFan on Tue Nov 10 10:19:32 2009.

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Didn't Terrapin Station answer b already? Be patient, if they do it this year it will no doubt be posted here. Also, check the press releases on mta.info they will release one if they do it at all. Last year's press release was 11/25/08 so there is time. Now, I have a contact in the TM who is going to find out for me if they are going to run this year and I will post it. Keep in mind there is budget problems and that may not saying will but may prevent them from running this year.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 11:23:20 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 10 10:47:18 2009.

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Ahh,, sorry your right, that makes sense. I hope they do it I liked the as delivered condition.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Nov 10 11:40:38 2009, in response to R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Nov 9 18:45:37 2009.

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How did these cars avoid the briny deep?

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Tue Nov 10 11:42:22 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 11:21:21 2009.

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I hope they run the TOMC, the Arnines is getting anoying now on the V

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by joe c on Tue Nov 10 11:43:14 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 11:21:21 2009.

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It seems likely that the R1/9 Nostalgia train will be running this
holiday season.



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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by YoungNYCSubwayFan on Tue Nov 10 11:44:48 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by danny at 103rd street on Tue Nov 10 11:42:22 2009.

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If they do run the TOMC, it can't be on the IND b/c of the "gap" between the platform and the train!

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 11:46:39 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by danny at 103rd street on Tue Nov 10 11:42:22 2009.

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TOMC will most likely not run as there is too big a gap, and if they used fillers, well dwell times be too long.

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Tue Nov 10 11:47:23 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by YoungNYCSubwayFan on Tue Nov 10 11:44:48 2009.

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I know maybe on the 7th ave line, But I rather see it on the lexington ave line, lexington is way more intresting then 7th ave

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 11:47:55 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by YoungNYCSubwayFan on Tue Nov 10 11:44:48 2009.

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Exactly.

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by joe c on Tue Nov 10 11:48:03 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by danny at 103rd street on Tue Nov 10 11:42:22 2009.

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Highly doubt the TA will run TMOC.just be glad they're running the arnines at all.



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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 11:48:42 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by joe c on Tue Nov 10 11:43:14 2009.

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Well we will see.

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 11:50:28 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by danny at 103rd street on Tue Nov 10 11:47:23 2009.

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Too long a route for them, and too congested. The V makes more sense as it can relay at QP, & 2nd Ave. Distance not too great and if they break down easier to get around it. If they run this year most likely be same as every year.

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 11:51:24 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by joe c on Tue Nov 10 11:48:03 2009.

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If they run it they have yet to announce it, probably in next couple of weeks as last year's release was dated 11/25/08.

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by rionOne on Tue Nov 10 11:53:55 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 11:50:28 2009.

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Well one year they did run the TOMC on the (2) from 180th to Times Sq. They can do that.

-Trevor
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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Tue Nov 10 11:54:09 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 11:50:28 2009.

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They dont have to do the whole line probably from 138th Street or 125th Street to Cityhall

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by joe c on Tue Nov 10 11:59:55 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 11:50:28 2009.

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Harold Sq is a major hoilday shopping area and also a tourist
hot spot.so they offer the chance for them to ride a nostalgic train,
also 2nd Av and QP have relay tracks that don't affect regular traffic.and they're close to 207.


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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by joe c on Tue Nov 10 12:06:59 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 11:51:24 2009.

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Yea,they might announce before Thanksgiving.





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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 12:07:13 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by rionOne on Tue Nov 10 11:53:55 2009.

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Your right I forgot about that thanks. Let's hope they run :-)

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 12:07:50 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by danny at 103rd street on Tue Nov 10 11:54:09 2009.

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Not sure but as Trevor pointed out they have

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 12:08:33 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by joe c on Tue Nov 10 11:59:55 2009.

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True

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 12:08:59 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by joe c on Tue Nov 10 12:06:59 2009.

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Well, let's hope :-)

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 10 12:12:07 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Nov 10 11:40:38 2009.

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Reading the whole thread before replying can't be stressed enough.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Nov 10 12:18:43 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 10 12:12:07 2009.

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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by joe c on Tue Nov 10 12:34:44 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 12:08:59 2009.

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There's always a hope.




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Re: Nostalgia Train Questions

Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 10 12:42:45 2009, in response to Re: Nostalgia Train Questions, posted by joe c on Tue Nov 10 12:34:44 2009.

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Yes there is :) I do feel they will run it, but cannot say it as a fact yet. But, within 2 weeks we should know. :-)

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Nov 10 13:22:43 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 10 07:10:33 2009.

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LOL, well 3352/3 has been in the museum for awhile, and there are R-32s still running! (and probably will be until sometime next year).

Speaking of that, I could be wrong, but it appears that 4280/1 took 3352/3's space at the TM. I'll have to check my pics from April to be sure, though.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 10 13:44:52 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 10 09:38:25 2009.

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I believe the main function of the Pantograph gates is to prevent blind people from accidentally walking between cars.

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Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum

Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Tue Nov 10 13:49:15 2009, in response to Re: R40 Slants 4280-4281 now in the Transit Museum, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Nov 10 13:22:43 2009.

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Yeah and the had a redbird there years before they stopped running. I just wonder when 4028 is going to make it there it got a sign do not scrap Musuem train next to the redbird at 207YD.

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