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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 10 11:31:31 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 9 20:23:59 2009.

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I already own them all.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 10 11:33:52 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 9 20:53:18 2009.

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I get one or two daily on my WebTV accounts. None on my computer address.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Nilet on Wed Jun 10 11:33:59 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 9 20:23:59 2009.

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I've already got one!

I told them we already got one! :D :D :D

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 10 11:36:39 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 9 20:55:56 2009.

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Why would NY agree to this? Is it cheaper than scrapping or reefing.

Which one of us travels to Nigeria to get the pics?

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 10 11:40:58 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by R42 4787 on Tue Jun 9 23:27:19 2009.

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Ditto for some CDOT Budd SPV's, which I believe were the first SLE cars.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 10 12:25:45 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 9 18:56:44 2009.

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I was rolling on the floor laughing at the 419 site when I saw it last winter. I love it!

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 10 12:30:41 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 9 20:55:56 2009.

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If they're GIVING them away, I'll take a pair...what a restaurant it would make! I don't think NYC (outside of the Stardust in Midtown) has ever had a real diner made from a subway car...lol!

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 10 12:43:28 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 10 11:36:39 2009.

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Seems to me it would be cheaper than reefing. Reefing involves man-hours to prepare the cars for the reef, and then the costs of shipping the cars by barge to the drop location. I don't know if the state on the receiving end pays for the shipment, but it doesn't matter for this. Because according to this "Nigerian scheme", it seems likely that not only will Nigeria pay for the shipment of the cars, they will also be paying for all the retrofitting work that was mentioned. So not only will it be cheaper, but it looks like it will bring in revenue.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 10 12:48:43 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 10 12:30:41 2009.

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But you need to pay for shipping.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 10 14:55:20 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 10 11:30:25 2009.

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LOL. Ok. I was kidding you anyway. What amazes me is that ANYONE falls for this sort of thing. The scam is as old as the hills- I'd have thought literally everyone knew of it.

I visit friends in Queens regularly, and I drive on Jamaica Ave to reach their house- the el really is in serious need of paint between Woodhaven (I don't know about points west of that, but I assume the same) and Myrtle.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 10 15:15:06 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 10 14:55:20 2009.

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Indeed, but I'm afraid any new paintjob will be that awful dark green. I'd rather it remain as is.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jun 10 15:17:14 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 9 18:35:20 2009.

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To: Subchatter@Subchat.com
From: KingScamma@thisisnotascam.com.ng

Subject: URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL

HELLO,

MY NAME IS UBUKUKU UKAEGBU, AND I HAVE REACHED OUT TO YOU HERE BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN INFORMED BY MY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS THAT THERE IS A VERY SIZABLE INHERITANCE THAT HAS BEEN LEFT TO YOU BY A DISTANT RELATIVE WHO WAS A CITIZEN OF THE COUNTRY OF NIGERIA.

THIS INHERITANCE IS EQUAL TO APPROXIMATELY U.S.$500,000,000.00.

I HAVE BEEN TOLD TO MAKE THIS OFFER TO YOU!! THIS IS A ONE TIME SPECIAL OFFER!! IN ORDER FOR YOU TO RECEIVE THIS INHERITANCE AND TO LIVE YOURSELF A REAL HAPPY, RICH LIFE, THE LIFE YOU MIGHT HAVE ALWAYS WANTED, HERE IS THE DEAL:

PLEASE SEND TO THE NATION OF NIGERIA, WEST AFRICA THE AMOUNT OF 232 NEW YORK CITY TRANSIT AUTHORITY MODEL R-32 CLASS SUBWAY CARS WE HAVE COME TO FIND OUT ARE DUE TO BE RETIRED IN THEIR ENTIRETY SOON!! ALL WE ASK IS THAT YOU SEND ALONG WITH THE CARS FEES FOR BARGING AND SHIPPING COSTS, AND UPON RECEIPT OF SUCH CARS AND THE AMOUNT MENTIONED, YOU WILL BE FORWARDED A WIRE FROM THE GREATER REPUBLIC BANK OF NIGERIA TO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT IN THE AMOUNT OF U.S. $500,000,000.00. ALSO PROVIDE US YOUR ACCOUNT INFORMATION, SUCH AS BANK ROUTING NUMBER, ACCOUNT NUMBER, AND NAME OF BANK WHERE ACCOUNT IS HELD, AND IMMEDIATELY UPON ARRIVAL OF THE CARS, YOU WILL RECEIVE THIS MONETARY PAYOUT VIA DIRECT ELECTRONIC WIRE TO YOUR ACCOUNT.

PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS OFFER BY 08/01/2009 TO CONFIRM THE ORDER AND SHIPMENT, ALSO BE SURE TO FORWARD TO US PAYMENT FOR SHIPPING AND BARGING SERVICES.

WE CAN BE CONTACTED AT 062 301 555 6969, AND AT THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS, UBUKUKUNIGERIA1@HOTMAIL.NI

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SPEAKING TO YOU SOON!!

THANK YOU!!

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 10 15:28:10 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jun 10 15:17:14 2009.

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LOL. I can imagine MTA heads thinking "Ah ha, finally a way to close our budget deficit!".

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jun 10 15:30:12 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 10 15:28:10 2009.

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Hey, I wouldn't be surprised if they got something like this, since everyone everywhere knows of their budget problems!! :-D lol

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 10 16:11:33 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jun 10 12:25:45 2009.

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I am looking forward to receive the requested information's you soonest.

Hope to be with you soonest, may the good God guide you as you read this mail and understand the position of things.

Your immediate response will be highly appreciated, Say me well to your friends; remain blessed !

Yours sincerely,
His Extreme Highness
Prince Spliff

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 10 16:15:54 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 10 10:00:27 2009.

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That's always been the secret of all the spammers ... SOMEBODY is buying those horse tranquilizers. :)

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 10 16:16:27 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 10 09:47:48 2009.

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Whodathunkit!? :)

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 10 16:17:31 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 10 11:33:52 2009.

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WebTV is still lit? Heh. Yeah, my nsclean.com email addies are in every spammer's list and that's why I don't use it any longer nor give out my REAL one. :)

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jun 10 21:36:05 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 10 11:36:39 2009.

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At least it'll be better use of the R32's than reefs.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by BEDT26 on Wed Jun 10 21:51:38 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 10 06:55:29 2009.

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Or pull by elephants. :)

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 10 21:52:27 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by BEDT26 on Wed Jun 10 21:51:38 2009.

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4 tuskpower per car?

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Westcode44 on Wed Jun 10 21:53:15 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 10 21:52:27 2009.

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WOW Train Dude what a deal for these cars...

WE-44

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 10 21:53:34 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 10 16:17:31 2009.

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Yes. Microsoft has decided to let it die a slow death.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by BEDT26 on Wed Jun 10 21:57:05 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 10 21:52:27 2009.

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LOL, I haven't been here lately is this all true or is it just a joke?

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jun 11 00:07:46 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 9 21:24:43 2009.

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How are they paying for them? With the money from all of their email scams?

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Broadway Buffer on Thu Jun 11 00:27:27 2009, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Jun 10 21:36:05 2009.

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I can understand putting these cars to further use, but has anyone inquired as to whether these cars can take anymore use? For the past couple of years many have talked about all sorts of reasons why the SMEEs (R-32s in particular) need to retire. It's beyond just the mechanics which won't be an issue since they'll supposedly become push-pulls, but I've heard people claim there are issues with the physical car bodies such as metal-fatigue. If this were to be true, are they safe to spend X amount of years on another railway even in a coach capacity? Or is the Nigerian Transit Ministry simply not concerned?

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 21:17:27 2011, in response to R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Tue Jun 9 18:20:47 2009.

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Almost true - almost. First, the number of cars involved will likely be less than 200. Second, the cars will not be sold but will be given to the Nigerian Transport Ministry. Third, for the deal to be done, The cars will have to be fitted with new trucks and be re-equipped to be pulled behind the diesel locos that GE is selling to the Nigerian Gov't. The hook is that all the modifications must be made in NY State before the cars are shipped. So it's not a done deal yet.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Sep 22 21:32:52 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 21:17:27 2011.

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Oh chit they gonna sell the R32's Steve what are they going to replace them with?

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Sep 22 21:35:49 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 21:17:27 2011.

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No all we need is a railfan to fly over there to get photos...

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 22 21:39:24 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Sep 22 21:35:49 2011.

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No problem ... get me your email address and I'll have a deputy prince at the bank in Lagos get back to you on that. :)

Why do I get the funny feeling that the MTA is participating in a reverse scam? Heh.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Sep 22 21:40:48 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Sep 22 21:35:49 2011.

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I wonder where they are gonna load em up at?


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Re: R-32s being *given* to Nigeria

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 22 22:07:07 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 21:17:27 2011.

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Man, and some libs say that the USA isn't generous.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 22 22:09:21 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Railman718 on Thu Sep 22 21:32:52 2011.

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They're not being sold.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 22:16:59 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Railman718 on Thu Sep 22 21:32:52 2011.

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There is no need to replace them with anything at the moment. There is a mandated "B" division fleet reduction that will mean simply reducing the spare factor at each "B" Division location. 207th St has a 33% spare factor which is more than double the average of the other "B" division shops.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Sep 22 22:23:04 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Railman718 on Thu Sep 22 21:40:48 2011.

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I'll make a phone call soon.


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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Sep 22 22:23:57 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 22:16:59 2011.

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But how come there is a reduction in the first place?

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 22:27:12 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Sep 22 22:23:04 2011.

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You know people in Nigeria?

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 22:33:02 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Sep 22 22:23:57 2011.

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Cost reduction! If you can reduce the size of the fleet by 300 of the least reliable cars you can then expand the inspection window by 10%. This will lead to several million dollars in material and labor cost savings & reduce the size of your required work force.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Sep 22 22:40:14 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 22:33:02 2011.

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Ah, I see then.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Sep 22 22:42:10 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 22 22:09:21 2011.

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Proof?

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Sep 22 22:43:45 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 22:16:59 2011.

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Ah so are finally going through with it ok thanks Steve.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 22:55:18 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Railman718 on Thu Sep 22 22:43:45 2011.

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The spare factor reduction was actually mandated by Howard Roberts at the same time he put his Line Manager concept into place. For better or worse, the untimely departure of Eliot Spitzer caused Howard Roberts to leave in favor of Prendergast and company. Their priority was to undo the Line Manager program. Car issues such as fleet reduction as a cost saving measure was not seriously pursued but the political decision to scrap the R-44s received much ill-advised support.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 23 00:23:00 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Railman718 on Thu Sep 22 22:42:10 2011.

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RTFT idiot

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Sep 23 00:29:16 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 22:55:18 2011.

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Good idea on his part Steve!

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Sep 23 01:32:16 2011, in response to R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Tue Jun 9 18:20:47 2009.

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Interesting.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 23 04:35:40 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Sep 22 22:09:21 2011.

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Re-read the post and not the title of the thread. It was bumped form 2009 and TD posted a 2011 update.

TD said they are going to be given away. He said in the second sentence that they would not be sold but given away to Nigeria!

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 23 04:46:05 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Railman718 on Thu Sep 22 22:42:10 2011.

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Railman:

Please read post #1104279.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Sep 23 06:01:21 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 22 21:17:27 2011.

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The cars will have to be fitted with new trucks and be re-equipped to be pulled behind the diesel locos that GE is selling to the Nigerian Gov't.

Why the R-32's and not the R-44's ?

Some R-44's are stripped and will probably never run on their own power again. If the cars are being pulled behind a diesel, why not the R-44's ?

Bill Newkirk

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 23 06:28:21 2011, in response to Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Sep 23 04:35:40 2011.

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That's exactly correct. Man, it's nice to know there are still some smart people on this forum.

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Re: R-32s being sold to Nigeria

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Sep 23 07:00:17 2011, in response to R-32s being sold to Nigeria, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Tue Jun 9 18:20:47 2009.

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Whether this is true or not...I don't think the R32s are retirring in December....not THIS December, anyway. The NYT article and several folks "in the know" on here inidcate they'll be around 'till 2017.

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