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RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Mar 9 03:08:39 2009

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Rumour has it according NYC Transit Forums that some MTA employees at South Ferry have been reporting that the new South Ferry Terminal is scheduled to open today at 5AM. I can attest to that because I too asked the booth clerk on Saturday evening and they mentioned Monday as well with a degree of uncertainty as well.

Who knows for sure but I guess we can all stay tuned?

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RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Mar 9 03:10:18 2009, in response to RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Mar 9 03:08:39 2009.

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Rumor has it that according to a user at NYC Transit Forums that some MTA employees at South Ferry have been reporting that the new South Ferry Terminal is scheduled to open today at 5AM. I can attest to that because I too asked the booth clerk on Saturday evening and they mentioned Monday as well with a degree of uncertainty as well.

Who knows for sure but I guess we can all stay tuned?

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Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Mar 9 03:23:00 2009, in response to RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Mar 9 03:10:18 2009.

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Wrong Monday.

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Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Mar 9 06:50:34 2009, in response to RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Mar 9 03:10:18 2009.

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Had South Ferry gone trans-Atlantic? ;-)

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Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by metropod on Mon Mar 9 08:05:08 2009, in response to Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Mar 9 06:50:34 2009.

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it's not the first, we've had Centre Street for quite some time.

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Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Tony Clifton on Mon Mar 9 08:46:07 2009, in response to RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Mar 9 03:10:18 2009.

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"Who knows for sure"

Certain people know for sure. But many members of the "NYC Transit Forums" are totally clueless.

"I guess we can all stay tuned?"

Those who know when it will open, will know when it will open. Those who are clueless and who rely on "rumors" spread by token booth clerks will have to wait until they are spoon fed the opening date through official channels.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Mar 9 09:04:25 2009, in response to RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Mar 9 03:08:39 2009.

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Well, I can tell you that as of 9:04 AM, it ain't open yet.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 09:25:46 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Mar 9 09:04:25 2009.

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And at 9:23AM, it's still not yet open.

SIR North Shore is wrong again with his lies,

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Mar 9 09:42:07 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 09:25:46 2009.

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Let's not call his post a "lie". He overheard or was told something that turned out to be incorrect. Just because it didn't happen didn't mean he didn't actually hear it.

If an MTA worker on or near the site told me that it would open in a few hours, I would also give that statement some credibility. That's all.

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Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Mar 9 09:42:12 2009, in response to Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Tony Clifton on Mon Mar 9 08:46:07 2009.

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The vast majority of people in New York are "spoon-fed" news about facility openings unless their job functions include advance warning.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Mar 9 09:43:03 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 09:25:46 2009.

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And David again missed his appointment with his behavioral therapist.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by metropod on Mon Mar 9 09:45:23 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 09:25:46 2009.

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how is repeating a rumor a lie?

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Mar 9 09:54:51 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by metropod on Mon Mar 9 09:45:23 2009.

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When you haven't taken your medicine this morning, that's how. :0)

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 09:58:05 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by metropod on Mon Mar 9 09:45:23 2009.

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A rumor devoid of any facts or truth is a lie.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Mar 9 10:00:44 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 09:58:05 2009.

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No, it's simply wrong. A lie requires intent to deceive. Some rumors are started with intent to deceive, whereas others are not.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 10:00:49 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Mar 9 09:42:07 2009.

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Only a General Order bulletin will clearly state WHEN the SF terminal will open. That's where lies are spread because everyone is talking about the new SF terminal opening tomorrow without asking if a G.O. bulletin was issued confirming this as fact.


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Re: Who cares?

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Mar 9 10:05:09 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 10:00:49 2009.

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Whatever.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Teddmann on Mon Mar 9 10:36:38 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 10:00:49 2009.

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...I care, I live in PA and want to make it up to SF one last time before they close the old station.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Mar 9 10:37:57 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Teddmann on Mon Mar 9 10:36:38 2009.

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So come up and see it. Chances are they'll make an advance announcement about it.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Teddmann on Mon Mar 9 10:40:37 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Mar 9 10:37:57 2009.

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The flu, work, and business trips have kept me from heaidng up since early January. I'm going to NY this weekend, and this is the first real "hint" that the new staiton may be opening. If I miss it, I miss it...but this is where I expected to get first wind of when the new station would open. I was also hoping for more than a few hours notice...

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Mar 9 10:42:01 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Teddmann on Mon Mar 9 10:40:37 2009.

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If they don't say anything about it, you're pretty safe. Even if they do, they're not likely to open the new station before Sunday morning, so you can "railfan" it to your heart's content Saturday.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Teddmann on Mon Mar 9 10:45:49 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Mar 9 10:42:01 2009.

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That was going to be my plan...but, it wouldn't surprise me if they (for example) announce today that it will open Thursday. So, I'll keep my fingers crossed!

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by metropod on Mon Mar 9 11:15:21 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 09:58:05 2009.

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But you accused SIR of lying. if he was only repeating what someone else said, then it's not a lie on his part.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Charles G on Mon Mar 9 11:33:53 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 09:58:05 2009.

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I don't follow things enough to say whether other information he has posted is good or bad, but putting RUMOUR in the subject line pretty clearly state "I heard this, but buyer beware...".

Using the "U" in rumor is also a dead giveaway that his information came from someone with a background in the Queen's English.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 11:53:58 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Teddmann on Mon Mar 9 10:45:49 2009.

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If any, the announcement would actually come from NYCT employees who get the G.O.'s or through TENS (an internal website, I guess). People like Railman718, Robert (NETO), Alex L., Bill from Maspeth, G1Ravage, MJF, Zman179, Train Dude, and any other NYCT employees who post an opening date on Subchat, are geniune sources you can trust.


You can't trust non-employees like me and SIR North Shore. At least I don't post lies about South Ferry Terminal already been opened for business.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Mar 9 11:56:32 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 11:53:58 2009.

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"At least I don't post lies about South Ferry Terminal already been opened for business."

No, you just obsess compulsively about it to the exclussion of even eating or sleeping.



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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 9 11:59:33 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Teddmann on Mon Mar 9 10:36:38 2009.

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I would act fast...the station could be closed any day now.

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Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Michael549 on Mon Mar 9 12:01:19 2009, in response to RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Mar 9 03:10:18 2009.

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The current state of the entrances leads me to believe that there may be a bit more to be done before the new terminal opens. Other than making more space available in the plaza in front of the terminal, there are few outward signs great progress. The middle entrance that is a short distance away from the terminal does not seem complete, nor does the entrance that is next to Battery Park. I agree that maybe the workers have made great progress with the terminal underground and the parts that can not be easily casually seen by the public now.

I tend to believe that it will be a little while longer for the new terminal to be ready to be open.

Mike


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Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Mar 9 12:05:02 2009, in response to Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Michael549 on Mon Mar 9 12:01:19 2009.

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Thanks for those details.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 9 12:06:35 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 09:58:05 2009.

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No it is not. You're probably one of the idiots who still thinks Bush lied about WMD's. A lie requires deceit, a foreknowledge that said information is WRONG. SIR clearly labelled this thread as a RUMOR, and never assertively stated the station was to open today at 5 AM.

Buy a dictionary.

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Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 9 12:09:02 2009, in response to Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by metropod on Mon Mar 9 08:05:08 2009.

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Proper names have no proper spelling. It's _rumor_ in the United States.

Now that I've given you a proper bollocking, can we toss this thread in the bin, or the skip, or on the refuse lorry?

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by West End on Mon Mar 9 13:55:29 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 11:53:58 2009.

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If anyone is intrested in TENS under photo of the day it states that the new South Ferry is "scheduled" to open at midnight on March 16th

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Re: Who cares? Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by WillD on Mon Mar 9 14:35:10 2009, in response to Re: Who cares?, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Mar 9 10:05:09 2009.

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I would think you would. After all you've pretty well staked what little shred of credibility you have left here to that project. Every day it slips beyond the "Late 2007" opening date and every million paid to get the station open is just another reason it was a bad idea to go forward with the project.

But then its easy to be a vapid cheerleader from a few thousand miles away. You'll never have to deal with the more crowded trains, longer commutes, or packed elevators which will bring everyone else down to earth.

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Re: Who cares? Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 15:04:26 2009, in response to Re: Who cares? Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by WillD on Mon Mar 9 14:35:10 2009.

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LOL, truth!!!!!!!

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Mar 9 21:11:54 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Mar 9 09:25:46 2009.

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LMAO! I'm not going to entertain you though.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Mar 9 21:15:03 2009, in response to RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Mar 9 03:08:39 2009.

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Here's a little sneak peak video of the new station in a near completed stage that I found on YouTube: (in the background you can hear a train traversing the loop)



It looks nice although very BLAND in comparison to what we know they are capable of with some of their more recent renovations.

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Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by WillD on Mon Mar 9 22:10:02 2009, in response to Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Mar 9 21:15:03 2009.

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Pfft, this video is MUCH better because it shows the "300 foot long" tail tracks everyone loved to go on about until they were proven entirely incorrect:



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Re: Who cares? Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Mar 9 22:42:41 2009, in response to Re: Who cares? Re: RUMOUR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by WillD on Mon Mar 9 14:35:10 2009.

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lol, can't deny that :)

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Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Mar 10 18:28:12 2009, in response to Re: RUMOR: New South Ferry Terminal Open at 5AM Monday?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Mar 9 12:09:02 2009.

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Technically, that should be the dustman's lorry.

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