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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Mar 5 19:54:33 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Thu Mar 5 18:05:38 2009. Like I said, you should be able to see if the ramp is going up or down. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Thu Mar 5 19:59:12 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Mar 5 19:54:33 2009. Nope. I did see a thing. It's just like I said: "It's because the bellmouth is pitch black, just like the other bellmouths in the IND". |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Thu Mar 5 20:08:14 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Thu Mar 5 19:59:12 2009. I meant, I did NOT see a thing. The tunnel is too dark! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Mar 5 20:27:19 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Thu Mar 5 20:08:14 2009. The tunnel may be dark. But I've always been able to see the ramp was coming down from an OVER pass. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Thu Mar 5 20:46:02 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Mar 5 20:27:19 2009. How can you see it, and I can't? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 5 20:47:46 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Mar 5 17:44:33 2009. Not even a guess ... Worth Street maybe? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Mar 5 20:52:26 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Thu Mar 5 20:46:02 2009. Among other things, I've walked to the end of the platform at 63 Drive and peered into the tunnel. Sometimes a local would come and I could see the ramp a little better. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Mar 5 20:58:28 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 5 20:47:46 2009. I was asking if you noticed what direction? |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Mar 5 21:01:04 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Thu Mar 5 16:43:25 2009. We were discussing this only a few weeks ago.Link |
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Posted by metropod on Thu Mar 5 21:11:23 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Thu Mar 5 14:48:17 2009. with the majority of stubs, it's to the limit of construction or to the building line. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Mar 5 21:21:00 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Mar 5 20:58:28 2009. Nope ... like I said, don't recall seeing anything. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Thu Mar 5 21:22:36 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Mar 5 20:52:26 2009. How does the ramp looks like? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Mar 5 21:35:21 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Thu Mar 5 21:22:36 2009. Looking at it the ramp was going up.I couldn't tell where it was going except it was going up. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Thu Mar 5 21:37:52 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Mar 5 21:35:21 2009. Can you give me detail by detail about EVERY Tunnel stub headings/bellmouths in the whole system? |
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Posted by Michael549 on Thu Mar 5 22:15:34 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Mar 4 22:58:05 2009. MainR3664 - I put that in as a kind of joke, and I was wondering how long it would take for someone to catch it. And you did. (smile) :)Mike |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 6 01:04:04 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Thu Mar 5 21:37:52 2009. All I know about detail by detail about EVERY Tunnel stub headings/bellmouths are those I've actually seen in person.And the closest I've seen to the stub at 63 Drive was from the end of the station platform. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 06:58:03 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 6 01:04:04 2009. Really? What about that station shell above the Broadway station on the IND Crosstown (G) line? How do you really get there? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 6 11:36:44 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 06:58:03 2009. Walked all the way down the mezzazine from the booth on the station.Of course I took a good flashlight. I never made it all the way to the station shell. I went all the way to the other and of the mezzazine, up a flight of stairs and a few steps further until I couldn't see any lights behind me. I took a pic of what was in front of me. But it was too dark to make out anything. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 11:56:20 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 6 11:36:44 2009. Can I see the pic? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 6 12:01:53 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 11:56:20 2009. It'll take me a while to find them first. |
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Posted by metropod on Fri Mar 6 12:06:16 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 6 12:01:53 2009. before you end up tearing you house apartthis should be fine |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 12:12:17 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 6 12:01:53 2009. Is the pic new or old? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 6 12:47:44 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by metropod on Fri Mar 6 12:06:16 2009. I like that pic of South 4th Street.Is that pic taken from the passageway from Broadway Station? I never went only as far as I could see some lights from Broadway Station. As soon as they were hidden, That's only as far as I went. I didn't want to take a chance on getting lost back there. Someone told me there was a master light switch for the station. But I didn't want to look for it. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 13:01:15 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 6 12:47:44 2009. Wow.... |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 13:04:11 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 6 12:47:44 2009. But, you should of been brave to go into the dark staion shell... |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 6 13:11:55 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 13:04:11 2009. When I don't know what to expect in front of me,I only go so far. I don't want to me MIA in MTA! |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 13:59:42 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 6 12:47:44 2009. That pic was taken inside the shell. On the north end of the N/B platform, there is an open door with a stair case going up to the station. On the S/B platform, there is a door with a gate that is locked. If you go a few feet into the tunnel, there is a whole in a chain link fence. That would get you in to an under pass. If you look up you should see several places where stairs to the platforms would have gone. To actually get into the station shell you need to find a laddet as there are no stairs in place. I got this all from another source, one that you should never ask if 76th street is real or not. Also, there are no lights in the shell at all. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:02:34 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 12:12:17 2009. From what I know about the place, nothing has changed in S4th Street aside from the dust since the day construction ended. There are only a very few tags in there, one being Jedi5 who gets to some very nice spots. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:18:27 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 13:59:42 2009. That what I've always noticed! Everytime I'm on the north end of the northbound platform, I look north into the tunnel, and I see that chain link fence door-like thing in the tunnel! I also see something back there too.... |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:22:00 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:18:27 2009. That are would have been the connection from the Broadway station to S4th Street and the cross under for the station. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:22:32 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 13:59:42 2009. What source? |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:23:00 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:22:00 2009. Can I get a pic of it? |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:24:56 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:23:00 2009. Sorry, I don't carry a camera down there. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:25:04 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:22:00 2009. What about that station shell above Utica Avenue on the IND Fulton (A&C) Line? |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:26:20 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:24:56 2009. Ok. Can you give detailed info about station shells and bellmouths/unused trackways? I'm VERY interested! Thanx. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:28:22 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:25:04 2009. Its there, but there is no way for the public to see it. There are track quaters back there. Last I remember, the colums are painted and its not as dirty either. It been a few years since I was there, so I don't remember much of it. It is alot smaller then S4th Street beacuse the shell is only as wide as Utica Ave. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:31:05 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:22:32 2009. Tunnelrat. He has not posted here in a while, but he knows all the places in the system. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:34:59 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:31:05 2009. At the extreme southern (Madison St) end of the East Broadway F platform, there's a closed-off stairway that heads south, then does a 180 going up, and then goes to ... nowhere? There doesn't seem to be any evidence of an outlet for the stairway. Does anybody know the story? |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:39:39 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:34:59 2009. I don't know but there is an empty trackway built over the station. I have not been there but I know people who have been. If you want to see some pics of this and other places go to ltvsquad.com (copy and paste I don't know how to link). |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:43:30 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Mar 6 12:47:44 2009. I was at the Broadway station last fall and saw what looked like an opening in the ceiling above the S/B track near the northern end - looked like a ventilation shaft of some sort. Perhaps it goes up to the unused shell above. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:50:12 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:43:30 2009. Nope, that station used to have a full length mezz. It has since been closed and made into crew rooms, a comm. room, and a station dept. room. If you look under the openings, you will see newer concret from where stairs had been. The original mezz. would have connected to South 4th Street *I think*. About a year ago I had seen a blue print of the staion, but I don't have a copy or photo. I did show and abandon portion of the original mezz. and closed exits to the street. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:51:29 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:50:12 2009. Ok. Can you give detailed info about every station shell and bellmouths/unused trackways in the system? I'm VERY interested! Thanx. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:58:05 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 14:51:29 2009. I would if I could, but I have only been to a select few. Many are places that are far from platforms and are not easy to get to. The best way to see some of them is by train, looking out the window. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 15:01:43 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 14:58:05 2009. Can you give me a detailed list? |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 15:22:41 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 15:01:43 2009. Basicly everything others have said here. I only know about a few places, but others know alot more. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 15:26:28 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 15:22:41 2009. What few places? |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 15:31:41 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 15:26:28 2009. South 4th, Roosevelt Ave., Grant Ave lay-ups (the rumored 76th Street station is thought to be past the cinderblock wall., Essex Street trolley term., and one or two others that don't come to mind right now. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 15:34:00 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 15:31:41 2009. Is there a bellmouth just past Utica Avenue-Crown Heights Station on the IRT Eastern Parkway (3&4) Line going New Lots Avenue-Bound? |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 15:37:07 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 15:34:00 2009. Sorry that one I don't know, I have never done stuff on the A division. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Fri Mar 6 15:39:08 2009, in response to Re: Tunnel stubs, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Fri Mar 6 15:37:07 2009. I hope someone knows... |
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