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Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:20:51 2008

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Just to get around some of the usual Sub Chat Drama..

Theres a Plan 4 Winter Operatiuosn Plan in Effect Until 0500 hrs Monday Morning..

SO now if anybody may ask what the plan is..


Plan 4: Forecast of snow (5 inches or more).
General Orders and work trains will be cancelled as required
Operate maximum length trains on all lines including OPT0 lines
(Except Lefferts Shuttle & Rockaway Park Shuttle)
Underground storage in effect
Local Storm Fighting Centers activated
All Storm fighting equipment prepared for activation


BTW this means there will NO EXPRESS service in Manhattan this Weekend..

Every train scrapes the wall...


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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 19 11:22:57 2008, in response to Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:20:51 2008.

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"Operate maximum length trains on all lines including OPT0 lines
(Except Lefferts Shuttle & Rockaway Park Shuttle)"


That means (G) will be 8 cars, and how about the Franklin? Stays 2 cars? Or it's impossible to make it 3?

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:25:32 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 19 11:22:57 2008.

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Franklin Shuttle does not get Conductors..

As for the George..

Good Question....

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by AlM on Fri Dec 19 11:26:49 2008, in response to Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:20:51 2008.

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Every train scrapes the wall...

Even the 4 and the 5?



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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 19 11:27:02 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:25:32 2008.

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I know about the Franklin on it being OPTO, but let's see the George...

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:28:47 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 19 11:26:49 2008.

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Even the 4 and the 5?

Espeically the 4 and 5.


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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Dec 19 11:29:07 2008, in response to Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:20:51 2008.

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Now, this is a real snowfall! A manly snowfall! : )

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 19 11:33:03 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 19 11:27:02 2008.

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G will still be 4 cars with/out a C/R. I have been though Blizzard on the G line and still only have did not a C/R put on my train, plus 4 cars was a bitch to clime up Smith St. Hill.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 19 11:33:19 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Dec 19 11:29:07 2008.

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And it's about time!

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Jeromeline on Fri Dec 19 11:34:04 2008, in response to Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:20:51 2008.

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Thank God for having the weekend off. To those of you working this weekend be careful and stay safe, especially those of you laying-up or getting the snowbirds.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 19 11:34:13 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 19 11:33:03 2008.

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So there gonna keep it 4 then? It figures sine the only time it's about ground it at Smith and 4th avenue middle.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by QM18Express on Fri Dec 19 11:34:17 2008, in response to Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:20:51 2008.

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Thanks for posting.
What time does the plan start? After the PM Rush or starting ASAP?

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Dec 19 11:37:49 2008, in response to Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:20:51 2008.

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Will this Plan 4 have an effect and direct impact on the R-1/9 "V" Sunday runs to the point that it could be cancelled just for that day only (or would it be "business as usual" instead)? Just inquiring to know...

-William A. Padron
["Houston-2nd Av."]


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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:39:03 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by QM18Express on Fri Dec 19 11:34:17 2008.

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Started at 1100 hrs today and ends 1100 hrs this coming Monday..

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:40:10 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by William A. Padron on Fri Dec 19 11:37:49 2008.

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Well since "technically" the Holiday train is a G.O...

It may be cancelled...

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 19 11:41:34 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 19 11:34:13 2008.

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The best part it look like the rain/snow is going to end there around 8pm or so, and Sunday is should change from Snow to Rain during the early morning. I don't know why they are pulling this. They get there information from the National Weather Service the same place the Weather Chanel gets there's.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:42:09 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Jeromeline on Fri Dec 19 11:34:04 2008.

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Thanks JeromeLine hope all is going good with you.

BTW..

Could have been off the weekend or part of it as well now if i stayed in the A Div...

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:44:57 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 19 11:41:34 2008.

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Well NETO remember they year they didnt call a Plan and they got "caught" with their pants down when Mother Nature Dumped about 6 inches of snow?

They wasnt able to get trains out of the Yards...

So my guess here is "Better Safe Than Sorry"

No Snowbirds for Railman tonight thats for sure!!

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 19 11:46:21 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by William A. Padron on Fri Dec 19 11:37:49 2008.

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I think it could be canceled.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:53:40 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 19 11:46:21 2008.

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Good chance the "transfers" of equipment for the Charile could be as well..

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Dec 19 12:02:45 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:28:47 2008.

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Right now, the 4 trains are turning at Atlantic Ave due to snowbird layups on the express between Utica and Atlantic. Take the 3 train.....

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by QM18Express on Fri Dec 19 12:09:51 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:39:03 2008.

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Thanks! This should be a interesting Rush Hour, even on 6th with the B,D,F, and V all running on the same track

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 19 12:11:17 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by QM18Express on Fri Dec 19 12:09:51 2008.

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I don't think they will send ALL 4 trains local, that would be WAY too much congestion.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 19 12:13:40 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:53:40 2008.

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I fully agree.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Dan on Fri Dec 19 12:13:50 2008, in response to Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:20:51 2008.

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Is there an official SI Railway "Winter Operations Plan"?

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Dec 19 12:13:56 2008, in response to Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:20:51 2008.

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The G will remain OPTO this weekend however the 5 and M will be full length and have conductors, so expect X crews.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Dec 19 12:15:17 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 19 12:11:17 2008.

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Look for the B to end service early. Same goes for the W......

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 19 12:19:27 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Dec 19 12:13:56 2008.

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Only X C/R's. The T/O still get OPTO Pay even those there C/R ar eon the train. The M will only be going to Mytle Ave as well. Dame the M T/O have it easy this weekend.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 19 12:22:49 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Dec 19 11:29:07 2008.

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6 inches? Bah! They're measuring snow depths in the Rocky Mountains in FEET.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 19 12:23:54 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by QM18Express on Fri Dec 19 12:09:51 2008.

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I would think 6th Ave. is an exception. You've got trains going every which way at either end.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Dec 19 12:26:47 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:44:57 2008.

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What's a Snowbird?

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12: 30 pm UPDATE (Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Dec 19 12:27:42 2008, in response to Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:20:51 2008.

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So far:


-Nothing on the MTA website about B and W service ending early.

-All G.O.'s for the weekend are still posted.

-Nothing about 7 service not running between Times Square and Grand Central after 11 PM tonight.

-Nothing about all services running local after 7 PM tonight.


Excellent start so far.

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Re: Service Alert (Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Fri Dec 19 12:42:04 2008, in response to 12: 30 pm UPDATE (Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Dec 19 12:27:42 2008.

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MTA New York City Transit
Weather Advisory

Posted on:12/19/2008 12:41:20 PM

Due to inclement weather conditions, there is no 4 train service in both directions between the Atlantic Avenue Station and the Crown Heights-Utica Avenue Station.

As an alternative, customers are advised to take the 3 train making 4 train stops.

Please expect delays in service on the 3 and 4 trains at this time.

Ouch...well, I guess I can tell my folks to head for Times Sq & Wall St. rather than Grand Central & Bowling Green...

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 19 12:45:45 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 19 12:13:40 2008.

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Can any of you guys find out at this moment if the holiday "V" train will run Sunday, with the current & predicted snow situation?

My friend needs to know, he's planning on riding it this Sunday.

Thanks,

Chuck Greene

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Snowfanning Railfanning (Was: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 19 12:52:13 2008, in response to Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:20:51 2008.

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I'm heading out to railfan now in the snow. I'm probably going to drive to Dyckman and take pics there. I may also drive to Spuyten Duyvil and/or Riverdale MNCR. I'm also going to look for stuck buses so I can take cool videos. If you see me out there, say hi!

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Re: Snowfanning Railfanning (Was: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday)

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Dec 19 12:53:49 2008, in response to Snowfanning Railfanning (Was: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 19 12:52:13 2008.

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Hope you have 4WD! :-)

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 19 12:57:16 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 19 12:45:45 2008.

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It's more then likely a No Go G.O. Sorry.

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Re: Snowfanning Railfanning (Was: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday)

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Dec 19 12:59:56 2008, in response to Snowfanning Railfanning (Was: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 19 12:52:13 2008.

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Hi there. :-)


Have fun, if I have a few minutes tomorrow morning, it will be the Dyre line.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Dec 19 13:01:16 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 19 11:46:21 2008.

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A model who is visiting from Los Angeles contacted me and wanted me to shoot her on that train this weekend. Since the train is not a sure thing at this point I had to cancel in order that she not pass up another opportunity. She is returning to LA monday :-(

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Dec 19 13:02:37 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 19 12:19:27 2008.

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seriously! but so do the C/R on the shuttles, thats not hard work, thats easy and at least at Myrtle they dont have to do the walk. LOL

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NOSTALGIA Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by South FERRY on Fri Dec 19 13:04:54 2008, in response to Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by Railman718 on Fri Dec 19 11:20:51 2008.

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Does the Nostalgia train count as a "G/O".... and if so, does this mean it's cancelled 4 this weekend???

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 19 13:05:05 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 19 12:57:16 2008.

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Can you keep me updated? I need a definate yes or no.

Thanks, Robert.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Dec 19 13:07:31 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Dec 19 12:19:27 2008.

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side note: I got the 2009 winter ops if u want it for PDF let Ill e-mail it to you

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by South FERRY on Fri Dec 19 13:15:53 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 19 13:05:05 2008.

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That makes two of us....

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Re: NOSTALGIA Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by South FERRY on Fri Dec 19 13:27:45 2008, in response to NOSTALGIA Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by South FERRY on Fri Dec 19 13:04:54 2008.

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oh noes!!! teh r3post...

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Re: Snowfanning Railfanning (Was: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday)

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Dec 19 13:29:19 2008, in response to Snowfanning Railfanning (Was: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday), posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Dec 19 12:52:13 2008.

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Be careful..its pretty nasty out there..

The wife almost got into a fender bender this morning..

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Re: Snowfanning Railfanning (Was: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday)

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 19 13:36:31 2008, in response to Re: Snowfanning Railfanning (Was: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday), posted by Edwards! on Fri Dec 19 13:29:19 2008.

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How many inches of snow did you get so far?
Where I am,west of Philly, it's rain and 34.3 degrees. We are close to having snow.

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by abba on Fri Dec 19 13:43:13 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Dec 19 12:02:45 2008.

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What are Snowbird Layups?

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Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Dec 19 13:44:29 2008, in response to Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Dec 19 12:45:45 2008.

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Maybe send feedback via the MTA's web site and you'll get a definitive answer??

--Mark

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Re: NOSTALGIA Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Dec 19 13:46:36 2008, in response to Re: NOSTALGIA Re: Winter Operations Plan 4 In Effect Until Monday, posted by South FERRY on Fri Dec 19 13:27:45 2008.

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lolerz

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