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Posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 02:11:59 2008 The new South Ferry Terminal Tracks are in service, for NON-REVENUE MOVES ONLY.-Stef |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sun Nov 30 05:21:47 2008, in response to Starting Monday....., posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 02:11:59 2008. Cool thanks! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 07:28:01 2008, in response to Starting Monday....., posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 02:11:59 2008. That sucks, thanks! |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sun Nov 30 07:49:31 2008, in response to Starting Monday....., posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 02:11:59 2008. Yeah, they're going to start qualifying the crews on the new SFT. A T/O or C/R cannot operate an in-service train without being qualified on all sections of the line. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Nov 30 07:54:47 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by Zman179 on Sun Nov 30 07:49:31 2008. Yeah, they're going to start qualifying the crews on the new SFT. A T/O or C/R cannot operate an in-service train without being qualified on all sections of the line.Interesting..... |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Nov 30 08:06:30 2008, in response to Starting Monday....., posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 02:11:59 2008. Fan trip in the last car! |
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Posted by QM18Express on Sun Nov 30 11:31:10 2008, in response to Starting Monday....., posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 02:11:59 2008. That is interesting, thanks! |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Nov 30 11:35:08 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by Zman179 on Sun Nov 30 07:49:31 2008. What are they going to do? Take each employee one at a time and run a school car down there, and remind the C/R how to point at the board before opening the doors? |
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Posted by mshull on Sun Nov 30 11:37:38 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by G1Ravage on Sun Nov 30 11:35:08 2008. LOL!!!I expect it has something to do with the tail tracks and timers into the station. More for the T/Os than C/Rs. ;-) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 30 12:04:09 2008, in response to Starting Monday....., posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 02:11:59 2008. They need to make a BIG DEAL about closing the loop.LION SUGGESTS A PARTY! Bring that LAST TRAIN IN with a bunch of Sub Chatters on it, Set up a big Bar-B-Q right there on the platform, play some tunes and have a party, for about two hours or so. Then pack every thing up. put it back on the train and make a FAN RUN north to 242nd Street. They should use the RED BIRDS for this run. Let it start at 242nd Street, with stops at 96th 72nd 42nd 34th and at Chambers. It will lay up in the loop for the party, and then return whence it came. Fare on board for the party should be about $20 with proceeds to the Museum. ROAR |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Nov 30 12:06:44 2008, in response to They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 30 12:04:09 2008. Actually the "Last " day of the Loop for Normal Road Revenue Service will be Saturday Dec 20th...This is just Employee qualifications for the New Terminal... |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Nov 30 12:09:49 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by G1Ravage on Sun Nov 30 11:35:08 2008. That was basically what they did when Parsons-Archer opened (without the pointing). ;-)I was working midnights on the J the pick the TA began qualifying crews on the Archer Avenue lines. Crews would report to 121 and ride a J relay down to Parsons. Then they would go upstairs and qualify on the E portion of the line, return to Parsons and finish up with a trip back to 121. IIRC, we did the same thing when 63rd Street opened. Report to 57/6, operate a train up to 21st Street and the TSS pointed out the various moves that could be made and the lay-up tracks at Lex. |
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Posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 12:22:38 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by Zman179 on Sun Nov 30 07:49:31 2008. I saw that Mr. Z.10:30AM tomorrow, Tracks 1A and 4A go into service, and a designated test train to operate all week. Next weekend should be quite an event, no service from Chambers to the Ferry, as trains run lite to the new SF, and return to Chambers St for N/B Service. Got to love it! -Stef |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 30 12:39:17 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Railman718 on Sun Nov 30 12:06:44 2008. Yes, I understood this. So NOW is the time to PLAN A BIG PARTY BASH if that is to be had!ROARING |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Nov 30 12:42:24 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 12:22:38 2008. Why not run them to Rector and have them only "run light" between Rector and the new SF station? |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Nov 30 12:45:51 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 30 12:39:17 2008. And I still think they need to look at keeping at some point at re-opening the old SF station as a terminal for the 5 (when not running to Brooklyn), 6 during overnights and rebuilding the entryways to the short platform at BG for a two-car shuttle that would operate during peak hours (and other times when the 5 is running to Brooklyn) between SF and BG. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 30 12:59:32 2008, in response to Re: 1 Running Light, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Nov 30 12:42:24 2008. Good question. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 30 13:01:26 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Nov 30 12:45:51 2008. You'd need modified cars that would only open their center doors at SF. |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Nov 30 13:02:26 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Nov 30 12:39:17 2008. I'll have to go to the loop station and get some final pictures before it closes. I wonder it they will keep access to it open in case of emergency situations???? |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Nov 30 13:06:03 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 30 13:01:26 2008. They'd probably have to use two of the vintage cars for this. I suggest using two of the ones that were sitting idle up at Onionport.-w- |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Nov 30 13:07:30 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 12:22:38 2008. I wonder - are they going to open up "in the rough" - i.e. partially finished, or perhaps even "unfinished"?-w- |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Nov 30 13:14:11 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 30 13:01:26 2008. Not if they use the still-currently in use platform at SF. There would be no need to re-open the old inner platform at SF if the 1 is no longer using that station. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Nov 30 13:28:10 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Nov 30 13:06:03 2008. Anything that is vintage would not be able to do so. It would involve removing of door linkages similar to mods they did to the 5700s that ran on the BG shuttles. R62s would be able to open any door any time as long as other single panels are cut out. |
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Posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 13:31:40 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Nov 30 13:07:30 2008. Judging by the photos on nycsubway.org which were put up recently, the station looks relatively complete, but that is merely one man's opinion. At this point it should be MOSTLY finished.-Stef |
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Posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 13:40:55 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Nov 30 13:14:11 2008. It's doubtful that will even happen, MTA NYC Transit needs to justify why such a service should be operated. In times like this, they will be tightening their belts and keep the operating costs at a minimum.If there's any indicator of the old station closing for good, the Station Service Booth located in the ferry terminal will shut down and be re-located to an area within the confines of the new station (exactly where is beyond me). The old booth and it's associated Turnstiles will be removed and the entrance to the old platform sealed (probably with the exception of emergency access ONLY). The Whitehall Street Station Service Booth is closing for good as well effective with the opening of the new terminal station. Unless I'm mistaken, there will be one unified complex. -Stef |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Nov 30 14:02:55 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by MJF on Sun Nov 30 12:09:49 2008. We got 3 and a half hours OT for the 57-6 to 21ST stint. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Nov 30 14:30:29 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by MJF on Sun Nov 30 12:09:49 2008. That was done as well when the reopened the 6th Ave side of the Manhattan Bridge. You picked up the train at DeKalb and mad a train to W4th and back. I was the only one on my train and operated in both direction. 4 R68's were used. |
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Posted by Eric B on Sun Nov 30 15:18:19 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Nov 30 14:30:29 2008. Towards the end, when I was working the Grand St shuttle on VR, they extended it to Pacific for the qualifying personnel only, and they got on at W4, and it went through the bypass. It used the shuttle's equipment of 4 car 46's. |
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Posted by Eric B on Sun Nov 30 15:21:59 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Nov 30 12:45:51 2008. I sent in the suggestion for that, but they rejected it because of the train length. Even though they're doing it now, they really want to abolish that practice. Yet, it ignores the problem of the (5) holding up the (4) at BG. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Nov 30 16:03:24 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Eric B on Sun Nov 30 15:21:59 2008. Yet, it ignores the problem of the (5) holding up the (4) at BG.That could be solved simply by treating the South Ferry loop in the same way as the City Hall loop. |
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Posted by metropod on Sun Nov 30 16:38:56 2008, in response to Re: 1 Running Light, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Nov 30 12:42:24 2008. chambers is set up to be a terminal from an operational standpoint, rector is not. Untill recently, the southern terminus operationaly for the 1 was not the ferry but chambers street on the uptown track. |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Nov 30 16:42:58 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Nov 30 14:02:55 2008. I remember having to qualify after work. The TSS's were only taking a few people at a time, maybe 5 or 6 so we could see out the storm door window. I think I ended up waiting over 2 hours before my group was called. |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Nov 30 16:45:20 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Nov 30 14:30:29 2008. I was working the IRT during that bridge reopening. I got requalified on the Bway side of the bridge during road break-in when I requalified for the B division in 2002. |
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Posted by checkthedoorlight on Sun Nov 30 18:11:05 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Nov 30 12:45:51 2008. Not gonna happen. The whole reason for this new SF project is to CLOSE the old station.Don't worry, you'll still get to ride through the outer loop during those crazy 2/5 GO's that go through there. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sun Nov 30 18:40:30 2008, in response to Re: 1 Running Light, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Nov 30 12:42:24 2008. Rector Street is kind of far to walk to for those headed to/from Whitehall Terminal. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 30 18:42:37 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Nov 30 13:07:30 2008. Go get some more tile! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 30 18:43:26 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 13:40:55 2008. Will there be a direct connection to the ferry terminal? If not, then this is a huge step backward even with the free transfer. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 30 18:44:10 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Nov 30 13:06:03 2008. With the onionheads?:) |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sun Nov 30 18:44:20 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Nov 30 12:45:51 2008. As checkthedoorlight said, the whole point of the project was to close the old station for good.Now what they should do is link Bowling Green station with Whitehall and South Ferry to allow for more free transfers. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Nov 30 22:30:59 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 30 18:43:26 2008. No. But no SIers on SubChat have complained about it so far and that reporter from that SI paper seems to be too busy these days getting friendly with MTA officials to report the inconvenience to the Islanders. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Sun Nov 30 22:47:17 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Nov 30 22:30:59 2008. Well, what do they expect for their two bucks..... |
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Posted by straphanger9 on Sun Nov 30 23:00:16 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by 33rd Street on Sun Nov 30 22:47:17 2008. "...'ta live foreva???" - Frank Correll.:) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 30 23:01:42 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sun Nov 30 05:21:47 2008. As opposed to warm thanks? Just kidding. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 30 23:02:33 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 07:28:01 2008. You don't have to ride there if you don't want to. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Nov 30 23:04:21 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 30 18:43:26 2008. Oh my god. Staten Islanders have to walk a few feet? The world is going to end.MAN THE LIFEBOATS! MAYDAY! MAYDAY! |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 30 23:16:40 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by MJF on Sun Nov 30 12:09:49 2008. Where dd the E training shuttle turn? At Van Wyck Blvd? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 30 23:18:50 2008, in response to Re: Starting Monday....., posted by Stef on Sun Nov 30 13:31:40 2008. Landscaping in the plaza is still unfinished. That should be done by Spring. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sun Nov 30 23:20:55 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 30 18:43:26 2008. The new entrance is within feet of the doors to Whitehall Terminal.Take a second to stop and THINK about what most Staten Islanders have to do or went through before you start mentioning huge steps backwards. -Bowling Green: Have to walk three blocks up to go there yet it's heavily used by Staten Islanders and there's no complaints. -Whitehall St BMT: The old entrance used to be further than where the new SF/Whitehall entrance is going to be. It used to be right at the corner of Whitehall & State and not near the doors of the terminal. And currently riders have to cross the street to get to Whitehall St Station. No Complaints. -Bus Ramps & SIR on SI side: Both quite a walk from the ferry docks and further than where the new SF entrance would be. No complaints. -South Ferry: The entrance has been tossed around so much since the fire in the 1990s and it never used to be right inside the terminal like it is now. Still No Complaints. Did you forget about the temporary station houses at SF? No complaints then either!  |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Nov 30 23:20:57 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Nov 30 23:04:21 2008. I love Morris' whining. Next he'll complain that kosher food isn't served on board the train. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 30 23:23:33 2008, in response to Re: They Need to... (was): Starting Monday....., posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Nov 30 23:04:21 2008. False. The location of the new SF subway terminal is just one of many reasons why the new terminal is not automatically superior to the old terminal. |
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