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3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008

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Got a interesting piece of info across my desk, 3 known railfans were spotted being led to the police district at 145th St. This kid Anthony, and his two buds Steven and Crappy McCrappers. A good friend of mine was coming through 145th St yesterday in search of some R40s on the (A) and recognized them from the museum trips.

From what he briefly heard, they were caught vandalizing trains. Another good example of why transit people look down on railfans.

What is up with this younger generation coming into the hobby. I mean I know in some of our younger days we did some "stuff" but damn this new generation is taking it to a whole new level.


Regards,
Trevor Logan

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by R PansePCC on Mon Nov 17 06:30:06 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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In my opinion you can't be a railfan and a vandal at the same time.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Nov 17 07:10:57 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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They like trains, yet they vandalize, that's like some psycho shit.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 07:19:46 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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transit people don't look down on railfans.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 07:20:49 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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Crappy McCrappers and possibly one or both of the others you speak of were on the Rockettes' Legs Special last week.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 07:30:49 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Nov 17 07:10:57 2008.

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"Vandalism" is defined by a number of things, such as busting in cab doors, playing with Rollsigns, etc.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 07:31:27 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 07:19:46 2008.

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Yeah...Ok! Apparently you don't hear some of the conversations I do.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 07:34:21 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 07:31:27 2008.

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So you're saying that what you said is untrue - it's actually only a select group of transit people who don't like railfans. Well I don't give two sh*ts about them. The fact that they needlessly and 'retardedly' hate doesn't affect most of the rest of us.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Mr RT on Mon Nov 17 07:45:07 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 07:19:46 2008.

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You can't say that as a general statement.
- Many suits don't have any tollerance for railfans, whether they be employees or customers.
- Ops employees are about the same, i.e. if a fan has gotten you in trouble, you won't do any favors in the future.
- Then again, some of my best friends are employees & railfans.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 07:46:55 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 07:34:21 2008.

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Don't start your shit, I didn't say anything about what I said was untrue.

I was merely stating what I've heard and I've heard spoken more than a few times wherein Transit fans are referred to as "Wack Jobs" or "Transit Freaks" by Transportation Personnel and not just MTA personnel. Just because YOU don't hear it or see does not mean that it does not occur. Furthermore, I didn't say you had to give a shit either, nor did I say it affected most of us in this hobby. But the true fact is that it does affect some fan, and that its sad that it does.

Regards,
Trevor Logan.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Nov 17 08:11:30 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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Hmmm... does anyone else have a strange sense of déjà vu?

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Nov 17 08:30:51 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Nov 17 08:11:30 2008.

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Ah geez not this shit again.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 08:35:30 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Mr RT on Mon Nov 17 07:45:07 2008.

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i was making a statement that was just as ridiculous as the one i was replying to. if rion1 can say what he did, then I can say what i did. you should either disagree with both or have nothing to say; you can't like one statement and not the other.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 08:43:13 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 07:46:55 2008.

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oh i've heard it. but your statement that transit people look down on railfans was unnecessarily vague and thus untrue. you should have said that either that:
1. Some dumb transit people unfairly look down on railfans, or
2. Some smart transit people look down upon vandals and criminals.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 08:46:20 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Nov 17 08:11:30 2008.

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not really. we don't know what they supposedly did, nor if it was anywhere near as serious as the previous incident.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 08:49:18 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Nov 17 08:30:51 2008.

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why? it happens all the time. it just doesn't get reported here all the time. it's not right, but it's also nothing out of the ordinary. as long as people will make fun of others like crappy mccrappers, people will also be vandalizing and causing trouble. it's what kids and immature adults do. you should know about that.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Nov 17 09:01:37 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by R PansePCC on Mon Nov 17 06:30:06 2008.

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I agree. If you love the system, you'll treat it with respect and not harm it.

While I don't know what these individuals were alleged to have done, if they "tagged" in some way, maybe they thought they were "marking their territory" or "signing" their cars or whatever. Real dumb, and, unfortunately, some less than enlightened transit personnel and management may take it out on the rest of us...

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Nov 17 09:11:07 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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WHAT. THE. FUCK.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Nov 17 09:12:45 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Nov 17 08:11:30 2008.

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At least no trains were moved here. Right? Someone please say "right".

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 09:13:45 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by MainR3664 on Mon Nov 17 09:01:37 2008.

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nah, i doubt they will take it out on the rest of us. most of the people who are a help to us are railfans themselves, and they know the difference between the idiot moron minority and the good railfan majority.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by joe c on Mon Nov 17 09:14:30 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 07:20:49 2008.

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Was Crappy McCrappers the one with a big video camera hanging around
his neck?i saw someone like that at the R1/9 Thursday run.



til next time

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 09:21:21 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Nov 17 09:11:07 2008.

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why are you surprised?

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 09:22:46 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Nov 17 09:12:45 2008.

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someone can't. it's not known yet, AFAIK.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 09:23:27 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by joe c on Mon Nov 17 09:14:30 2008.

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yes, i believe so.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by joe c on Mon Nov 17 09:29:24 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 09:23:27 2008.

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Ok,i saw him and a another teen going around WTC that day.



til next time

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by joe c on Mon Nov 17 09:31:45 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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Kids these days,they don't know how to keep their to hands to themselves.




til next time

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Nov 17 09:35:54 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 09:21:21 2008.

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I'm not surprised at all. But I am a little peeved.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 17 09:40:18 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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Fucking incredible. Dumb M-Fckers, doing dumb assed crap.


Even when I was your age, my mantara was looking out the RF window and nothing else.


Well, maybe making a few bucks here and there. But nothing like what these punks did!

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Nov 17 09:52:17 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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["A good friend of mine was coming through 145th St yesterday in search of some R40s on the (A) and recognized them from the museum trips.

From what he briefly heard, they were caught vandalizing trains. Another good example of why transit people look down on railfans."]

A friend briefly heard? Sounds like heresay to me.


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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 17 10:09:10 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 17 09:40:18 2008.

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These kids need girlfriends.

Ladies?

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 17 10:11:04 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 17 10:09:10 2008.

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First a job, school, and getting a life. Then they can think about girlfriends.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 17 10:13:27 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 17 10:11:04 2008.

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But a GF can motivate you to get those other things which most of us would define as a life.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 17 10:31:14 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 17 10:13:27 2008.

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True, very true.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by QM18Express on Mon Nov 17 10:53:53 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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IAWTP! Many of the teenagers that are on this hobby has been doing so much stunts that I am starting to question about how some of these people are being brought up.

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Re:: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 17 11:02:08 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 17 09:40:18 2008.

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Does anyone know what these 3 actually did?

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Re:: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Nov 17 11:08:08 2008, in response to Re:: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 17 11:02:08 2008.

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No, it's currently all heresay.

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Re:: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 17 11:10:39 2008, in response to Re:: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Nov 17 11:08:08 2008.

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That's what I thought.
I was expecting someone to say something along the lines of
'reread the postings.'

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Re:: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 17 11:12:53 2008, in response to Re:: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Nov 17 11:08:08 2008.

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Heresay? Do they still burn you at the stake for that?

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Re:: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Nov 17 11:49:10 2008, in response to Re:: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 17 11:12:53 2008.

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Yes, but in this case they burn you on an R40 pantogragh.

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Re:: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 12:55:54 2008, in response to Re:: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 17 11:10:39 2008.

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That's because you should have. But you won't. And we all know why.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 17 12:57:40 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by QM18Express on Mon Nov 17 10:53:53 2008.

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Many? How many?

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Re:: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 17 13:32:18 2008, in response to Re:: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Nov 17 11:49:10 2008.

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There are 6 billion humans on Earth, but only 300 or so R40 pantographs. They should find something else to burn them on.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Nov 17 13:39:54 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 17 10:31:14 2008.

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Unfortunatley, it's hard to get the girl without the life. Cart, horse, horse, cart ...

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by WayneJay on Mon Nov 17 13:52:01 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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I was expecting that they were being arrested for something like trespassing into a yard, OOS train or something like that. Vandalism - Now that sucks bigtime.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Mon Nov 17 13:57:33 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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Railfans that vandalize trains????? Wow, nice railfans!!! >:-(

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Mon Nov 17 13:58:08 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by WayneJay on Mon Nov 17 13:52:01 2008.

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Doesn't make them railfans, makes them sorry pieces of shit!!

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 17 14:02:22 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Mon Nov 17 13:58:08 2008.

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IAWTP!

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Nov 17 14:03:07 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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Tsk Tsk Tsk. They only have themselves to blame.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Nov 17 14:03:30 2008, in response to 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by rionOne on Mon Nov 17 04:56:02 2008.

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The three, using tools and equipment, literally tried to make off with a rollsign from a (C) train. R-38, I assume.

They got the cover open, pulled it out, and cut it, and tried to make off with it. On an in service train, no less.

When the court orders are made public, we can finally learn Crappy McCrapper's real name, so we can stop calling him Crappy McCrappers.

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Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place.....

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Nov 17 14:22:12 2008, in response to Re: 3 more make the hobby a worse off place....., posted by G1Ravage on Mon Nov 17 14:03:30 2008.

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They deservethe worst punishment for this!
Those 3 guys are up "sh**s" creek, for sure.

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