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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 21:19:35 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 20:58:13 2008. Of course they know where it is!Somwhere off the coast of Delaware. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 21:22:05 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 20:59:15 2008. ROCKPARKMAN: So it may be on a R68 as well as other contracts.Sounds like he was suggesting that. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 28 21:22:13 2008, in response to Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder), posted by David on Tue Oct 28 21:14:53 2008. That's actually a rather impressive "rate of return." I know the same experiments were done on buses out west with pretty impressive results as well.Do you or anybody know how those "spinning refriegerators" worked out a couple of years ago that they were testing on the Roackway line? |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Oct 28 21:55:59 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 21:22:05 2008. You missed the first part of that statement: I would think there is more than one device being tested.Thanks for playing, but you lose again. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Oct 28 21:58:55 2008, in response to Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder), posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 28 21:22:13 2008. what spinning refrigerators? Can you be more specific?And by the way, in europe, some small delivery trucks use that flywheel regeneration system. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Oct 28 22:03:20 2008, in response to Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder), posted by David on Tue Oct 28 21:14:53 2008. WOW. Cool to know, thanks. Never knew the NYCTA did an experiment like that.Did those cars have it until retirement? I doubt it, but just asking. I read before that some systems have flywheels located in station areas, but that requires "NTT style" regeneration which puts power into the third rail. Do you know the specs of the flywheel? Such as the weight of it, in partiular. Diameter as well. I'll try to calculate how fast this thing would need to spin to get a good amount of energy stored in there. Also, how much heavier were the cars? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 22:04:49 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by WillD on Tue Oct 28 21:55:59 2008. The first part of the statement says: "The car was not scheduled for reefing but was reefed sometime last month, by mistake, with a sophisticated biological / radiological sensing system still hidden within the car structure."The statement suggests a single sensing system. Where do you read more than one device? |
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Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder) |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Oct 28 22:13:26 2008, in response to Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder), posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Oct 28 21:58:55 2008. But these days, most agencies are looking into supercapacitors. I read about buses that have supercapacitors for acceleration. Which might be better in a sense, though. But at the current stage, flywheels are still probably better.There is also an experimental system of inducing a powerful current into a superconductive solenoid(sealed in a a "refrigerator" of sorts), and a device which can tap into the current somehow, and create an AC current so that it can be coupled to the drive system without touching the refrigerator, and messing up the insulation from heat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_magnetic_energy_storage |
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Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 28 22:14:05 2008, in response to Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder), posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Oct 28 21:58:55 2008. Inside joke amongst the teeyay. They were huge cabinets that looked like refrigerators which contained flywheels inside along the right of way ... |
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Posted by metropod on Tue Oct 28 22:15:04 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Oct 28 19:07:38 2008. Left fieldand cut it with the perverted shit already. |
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Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder) |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Oct 28 22:16:16 2008, in response to Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder), posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 28 22:14:05 2008. I see, thanks. I am guessing those would require NTT type regeneration which would send power to the third rail. Unless, of course those flywheels were there as a sort of "substation", which would be the case for anything before an NTT. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Oct 28 22:20:54 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by error46146 on Tue Oct 28 21:05:52 2008. TRUE!!!!YOU GOT IT!!! SPEAK TRUTH!!! ECELLENT OBSERVATION!!! All the R32s are in excellent condition. The slants had the really bad physical issues, but it seems that all the current cars are pretty good. The R38s, R40/40Ms and R42s could use a coat of paint on the roofs, but the TA is letting them rust. What a shame. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Oct 28 22:21:44 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by R42 4787 on Tue Oct 28 21:06:24 2008. I wonder how they are holding up. Have there been any update pics? |
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Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 28 22:24:07 2008, in response to Re: Flywheel (was Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder), posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Oct 28 22:16:16 2008. I think the intent there was to try out the concept, and certainly given the Rockaway line's sad sage of underpower, might have been a solution. I know they did it as an experiment, but don't recall hearing how it worked out ... |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Oct 28 22:32:07 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Oct 28 22:20:54 2008. exactly, the trains are fine their just old that's allthey should only use R160's to replace broken inoperable trains (like those broken in an accident or something) and also for service increases there's no need to replace thousands of trains that are working just fine in my opinion |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Tue Oct 28 22:32:32 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue Oct 28 22:21:44 2008. NJScuba.net |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Oct 28 22:33:00 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 22:04:49 2008. No, that's the statement made in the original posting and said," The memo that I saw didn’t give the car number but according to note, the car was not scheduled for reefing but was reefed sometime last month, by mistake, with a sophisticated biological / radiological sensing system still hidden within the car structure. The prototype sensor was installed in 2005 as part of a federally funded anti-terrorism project."The post you were floundering in the general direction of responding to said "I would think there is more than one device being tested. So it may be on a R68 as well as other contracts."So we know the prototype of the system was installed in an R32, 38, 40, or 42 which was reefed, that much is extremely obvious. However, we do not know if the MTA is testing other sensor suites in other newer car classes. That is what Rockparkman would appear to have been trying to get across before you utterly failed to comprehend what he wrote. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 22:36:35 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by WillD on Tue Oct 28 22:33:00 2008. That is what Rockparkman would appear to have been trying to get across before you utterly failed to comprehend what he wrote.And then proceeded to utterly fail to comprehend several posts explaining to him why he was wrong. |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Oct 28 22:37:10 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by R42 4787 on Tue Oct 28 22:32:32 2008. More specifically this portion of Mr. Galiano's fairly extensive website. Too bad Dutch Springs couldn't get a redbird or two, but I suppose there'd be a lot more transport cost, and they'd probably dump them below 70 feet around the PCC. Oh well, AOW here I come someday. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:03:25 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by WillD on Tue Oct 28 22:33:00 2008. ROCKPARKMAN said: "the car was not scheduled for reefing but was reefed sometime last month, by mistake, with a sophisticated biological / radiological sensing system still hidden within the car structure."Straightforward that there was one prototype on one train car. ROCKPARKMAN also said: "I would think there is more than one device being tested. So it may be on a R68 as well as other contracts." He doesn't know if there were more than one phototype used. The memo likely would have mentioned it. Maybe MTA is testing other sensors on other cars and on other classes. But I don't think a R68 has been reefed. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:04:26 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 22:36:35 2008. Stop hiding behind Will's back. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 28 23:17:56 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:04:26 2008. It's as good as any other back for him to hide behind. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:19:15 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:03:25 2008. pathetic
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:19:46 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:04:26 2008. YOU ARE A MORON |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:21:35 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 21:22:05 2008. He wasn't. We told you he wasn't.You are a moron. Which of course is perfectly fine. Except that you refuse to listen to people who are smarter than you. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:22:26 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 21:19:35 2008. As usual, you can't admit when you are wrong. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:29:23 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:19:46 2008. Cheap shot from behind Will's back?Un-warrented attack. I haven't called you names. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:30:23 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 28 23:17:56 2008. It's comfortanle for him there. |
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Posted by metropod on Tue Oct 28 23:31:15 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by error46146 on Tue Oct 28 21:05:52 2008. the unfortue part is they have yet to reef a good train. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:33:04 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:29:23 2008. YOU ARE A MORONOk, I guess the more correct way to say it is: You are not very smart. You most likely have a very low IQ. You most likely do not poses much common sense. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:33:53 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by metropod on Tue Oct 28 23:31:15 2008. ?????? huh? no, wrong. move on. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:34:28 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:19:15 2008. To quote Bart Simpson: "I didn't do it, no one saw me do it, there's no way you can prove anything!" |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:38:48 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:33:04 2008. Maybe not. But I'm holding my own against everyone's arguements in here. Also not raising my voice as you have. :-) |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:40:11 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:21:35 2008. YAWN! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:41:41 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:22:26 2008. As usual you're saying the same things over and over.I must be getting under your skin alot to make you do that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:42:16 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:34:28 2008. Nope. The proff is all here on the board. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:42:28 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:33:53 2008. After you! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:42:42 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:38:48 2008. No you're not. You been shown to be wrong many many times. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:43:05 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:40:11 2008. You are a moron. Which of course is perfectly fine. Except that you refuse to listen to people who are smarter than you. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:44:56 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:41:41 2008. Again, you can't admit when you are wrong. So you change the subject. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Tue Oct 28 23:45:32 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:03:25 2008. So it may be on a R68 as well as other contracts.That's the key line my man. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:46:43 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by J trainloco on Tue Oct 28 23:45:32 2008. He hasn't gotten it yet. What makes you think he'll get it now? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:46:43 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:42:16 2008. I'm definately getting under your skin.That's all the proff you can come up with. ;-) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:47:34 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:46:43 2008. Nope. You just can't admit you are wrong. The only thing getting me is how stupid you are. I didn't think it was possible to be that stupid. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:48:16 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:42:42 2008. I haven't been wrong this time. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:48:51 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:48:16 2008. You've been wrong several times this time. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:49:16 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:43:05 2008. There you go repeating yourself again. :-) |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:51:19 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:44:56 2008. Either I 'change the subject' or we go into an endless loop of arguements. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 28 23:51:54 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:49:16 2008. I'm ok with it. It doesn't at all effect what I'm saying and what you are denying, because you are so stupid. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Oct 28 23:52:16 2008, in response to Re: TAs Newest $16 Million Blunder, posted by J trainloco on Tue Oct 28 23:45:32 2008. Has there been any R68 cars that were reefed lately? |
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