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Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Oct 11 20:38:32 2008

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From the back of the shop i saw two NJT passengers cars, they weren't on display they were in the back of the yard. Does anyone know the story behind this?

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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Oct 11 20:42:46 2008, in response to Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Oct 11 20:38:32 2008.

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NJT 5009 and NJT 5010 will become MNCR's new Inspection train, replacing the Phoebe snow cars.

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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Oct 11 20:44:31 2008, in response to Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Oct 11 20:42:46 2008.

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Hmmm interesting... thanks for the info.

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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by R42 4787 on Sat Oct 11 20:50:57 2008, in response to Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Oct 11 20:42:46 2008.

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Comet IIIs 5009-5010 began their lives as Metro North 5179-80, so they have gone full circle.

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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 11 21:03:33 2008, in response to Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Oct 11 20:38:32 2008.

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This shot was posted by PATHman a few minutes before your post:


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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Oct 11 21:25:02 2008, in response to Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 11 21:03:33 2008.

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Must have missed that pic in forest glen's post. I guess he took that pic from the foilage train i guess...

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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 11 21:26:53 2008, in response to Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 11 21:03:33 2008.

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Looks like Track 88 0r 92 on the north end of the yard. Thinking I am gonna have to snoop around Harmon sometime!!

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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Oct 12 14:01:28 2008, in response to Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Oct 11 20:42:46 2008.

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What will become of the Phoebe Snow cars?

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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 12 14:17:28 2008, in response to Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by NIMBYkiller on Sun Oct 12 14:01:28 2008.

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One goes to a historical group in New Jersey and middle car and other tavern lounge I believe are going to steam town , but don't hold me to it.
They are spoken for by two organizations.

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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 12 14:20:05 2008, in response to Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Oct 11 20:42:46 2008.

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Looks like NJT is ready to say goodbye to the CIII's.

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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Oct 12 14:31:34 2008, in response to Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Oct 11 20:38:32 2008.

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Question is how did they get to the east side of the Hudson River ? Up north to Selkirk and cross the river or NYCH from Jersey by car float ?

Bill "Newkirk"

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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Oct 12 14:33:02 2008, in response to Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 12 14:20:05 2008.

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Looks like NJT is ready to say goodbye to the CIII's.

Say what ?....... they don't look all that old for an early retirement.

Bill "Newkirk"



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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 12 14:42:15 2008, in response to Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Oct 12 14:33:02 2008.

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They have decided that replacing them with new Multilevels is more fiscally prudent than giving them a mid-life overhaul that they will soon surely need.

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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Oct 12 14:51:50 2008, in response to Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Oct 12 14:31:34 2008.

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They came to Croton Harmon by way of NYP and hellgate branch.
The cars were part of move when inspection cars came back last week from NJT (hudson Yard) after inspection of Post Jervis line.

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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sun Oct 12 14:56:34 2008, in response to Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Oct 12 14:33:02 2008.

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Say what ?....... they don't look all that old for an early retirement.

Supposedly, their construction dates to 1990-91 or so, but it seems that NJT is just uninterested in performing overhaul work on them. Some railfans have alleged that the difficulties with the Comet II overhauls have basically scared off NJT from doing anymore overhauls on cabcars. Plus, I personally suspect that NJT isn't interested in doing an overhaul for only 52 cars (11 cab cars and 41 trailers) which is small compared to the Comet II (161 cars), Comet IV (99 cars), Comet V (200 cars), and MLVs (IIRC, 329 cars if one includes the 50-car CIII replacement).

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Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house

Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Oct 12 16:17:35 2008, in response to Re: Did anyone notice the NJT cars at the CH open house, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Oct 12 14:33:02 2008.

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I should add that those cars were also originally owned by Metro-North to begin with.

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