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PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley

Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Oct 6 03:27:19 2008

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First, the old one.


Ex-SF Muni PCC #531, shown here at the San Diego Trolley shops.

Judging by my unofficial observations, it needs a *lot* of work done on it before it can welcome APTA, or anyone else, to San Diego. I can't wait until it goes into service -- it could be a miniature version of San Francisco's F-Market line.


And now, the new one. MTS #3008, a Siemens S70, sits at Old Town station after completing a run on the Green Line of the San Diego Trolley.

Enjoy!

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Re: PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley

Posted by R PansePCC on Mon Oct 6 07:24:59 2008, in response to PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley, posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Oct 6 03:27:19 2008.

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Great photos. I love both of the trolleys. I love the PCC's of course, and that Siemens trolley is excellent. The perfect ADA trolley. The T/O never has to do anything to help the passenger on board.

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Re: PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 6 08:04:02 2008, in response to PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley, posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Oct 6 03:27:19 2008.

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yep i been there too




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Re: PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley

Posted by jan k. lorenzen on Mon Oct 6 11:24:32 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 6 08:04:02 2008.

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That ex-SLPS/Muni car is now being stripped for painting by San Diego transit forces. I got pics over the weekend and they even took it down past the original SLPS red and cream to the metal. Alot of bondo was removed!

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Re: PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Oct 6 19:55:58 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley, posted by jan k. lorenzen on Mon Oct 6 11:24:32 2008.

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That trolley sounds like it is in for some MAJOR TLC. PCC's are not terribly complicated machines, so fix-up should not be a big deal-unless of course they have to make parts.

wayne


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Re: PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley

Posted by Jan K. Lorenzen on Mon Oct 6 21:04:52 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Oct 6 19:55:58 2008.

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Well, among other things they had to collect parts that disappeared from the car post-Muni ops, then the big thing was needing to get new wheel discs so it can operate on the Class 1 type track work, those things are mighty expensive. I help out when I can, manuals, tech help, parts ferreting. I haven't even been out there yet to see the cars.

Now I need to get parts and helping hands for Philly air brake PCC 2647 I have stored down in Baltimore.

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Re: PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley

Posted by Transit Jeff on Mon Oct 6 23:42:25 2008, in response to PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley, posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Oct 6 03:27:19 2008.

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Nice pics....glad to see San Diego restoring the ex-St. Louis, ex-Muni 1100's. Will they hopefully retain trolley pole operation or do they plan to install pantographs?

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Re: PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley

Posted by Robert King on Tue Oct 7 09:59:48 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Oct 6 19:55:58 2008.

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Yes, but don't say that too loudly or you'll get a lot of angry, grey haired geezers tap dancing on top of your head.

If I had a dollar for every time I've gotten in $h!t for saying exactly that, I wouldn't be worrying about paying off my student debt.

-Robert King

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Re: PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley

Posted by Jeff H. on Tue Oct 7 22:34:10 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS: An old trolley -- and a new trolley, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Mon Oct 6 19:55:58 2008.

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As (historic) trolleys go, PCCs are about the most complicated.
Of course it is nothing compared to a modern LRV.

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