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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sun Aug 24 21:57:09 2008, in response to Re: MBTA Boston: Blue Line's new cars, posted by metropod on Sun Aug 24 21:18:09 2008. That is idiotic, especially since the new cars are stainless... Do they know any anti-corrosion measures, or are they manipulators who just like wasting tax money?You see a pattern with the salt water, I see a pattern with the corruption...Like I said, look at how the TTC(toronto) wastes money as well... |
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Posted by metropod on Sun Aug 24 23:36:55 2008, in response to Re: MBTA Boston: Blue Line's new cars, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sun Aug 24 21:57:09 2008. look. it's only corrpution becuase you think it's corruption. I see it as capitalism. they can use and abuse thier equipment as they see fit. they don't have to keep their old cars if they don't want to. or they could keep them all if they wanted to. but it comes down to what they want to do with them. this new car order can provide jobs in varous feilds, putting money into the economy. at a time like this, a large order of muilt million dollor train cars is a good thing. the manufactures have to hire workers to build them and pay contractors for parts and pay someone to move the parts to the final asemblye plant and then the finished car from the plant to it's new home. The R160Bs for example are being built in Yonkers by local labor. the workers live in the metro area and they are getting money to spend. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sun Aug 24 23:44:56 2008, in response to Re: MBTA Boston: Blue Line's new cars, posted by metropod on Sun Aug 24 23:36:55 2008. False, that is not real investment, and it is our tax money they are wasting...most of it goes to Japan...or wherever they actually build the cars...the few workers here are just part of a political charade...And the R160Bs aren't really being built in Yonkers... They looked pretty complete in the photos from japan that I saw..and when I saw videos of the PATH cars arriving, they were complete too...even with stickers...I don't consider removing the plastic wrapper worthy of being called "building"... A real investment would be in INFRASTRUCTURE...build new lines...people work to build them...people work on them, and people maintain them...this outsourcing is BS, and I am surprised you support it... |
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Posted by metropod on Mon Aug 25 00:54:43 2008, in response to Re: MBTA Boston: Blue Line's new cars, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sun Aug 24 23:44:56 2008. Ok, frist, the tax payer argument gets absoulitly no where.They are assembled in Yonkers. the Prototypes were built in Japan. the problem with infrasturce investments is it takes a long time to get into effect. goods like cars and equipment are a much quicker investment. it may only take a couple of months to get a subway car from bits and parts to ready to roll under it's own power, but it takes alot longer to build infrasturcter (no matter how or what your are building) This is America, the capital of free enterprise. why not support the very thing our country has fought hard and long to protect. I beliave that everyone has the right to conduct thier business as they see fit, that includes Walmart and Mc Donalds, not just your mom and pop shop. If walmart wants to buy from shops in China, it's not my business to tell them they can't. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 09:24:55 2008, in response to Re: MBTA Boston: Blue Line's new cars, posted by metropod on Mon Aug 25 00:54:43 2008. I agree...But mut MBTA is not a private company....And like I said before, peeling off plastic is not what i consider to be assembly... This type of "investment" won't help *OUR* country... |
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Posted by metropod on Mon Aug 25 09:33:44 2008, in response to Re: MBTA Boston: Blue Line's new cars, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Aug 25 09:24:55 2008. they are legely "private" in that all ownership of the corpoarton rests in the hands of the state government. the same with the MTA. a corporation is only public if thier stock is for sale n the gernreal market. |
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Posted by stevie on Mon Aug 25 22:11:29 2008, in response to MBTA Boston: Blue Line's new cars, posted by r17-6599 on Thu Aug 21 21:32:51 2008. It eats away at the metal combined w/the salt water. The Pullman cars #1 & 2 at Seashore are failing quickly from being at the Heights structrely. |
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Posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Fri Sep 5 16:17:13 2008, in response to MBTA Boston: Blue Line's new cars, posted by r17-6599 on Thu Aug 21 21:32:51 2008. Sorry to dig this up, just want to mention while I got stuck in traffic today, I saw two cars being delivered, one numbered 0749. It looked pretty good, I hope to ride it. Didn't want to start a new thread. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 17:53:45 2008, in response to Re: MBTA Boston: Blue Line's new cars, posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Fri Sep 5 16:17:13 2008. excellent post. thanks. |
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Posted by Gerry6309 on Fri Sep 5 19:29:21 2008, in response to Re: MBTA Boston: Blue Line's new cars, posted by Dand124 on Sun Aug 24 19:42:54 2008. The decision to use overhead power was made based on how exposed the line is and how likely it was to experience third rail icing. The pantograph was chosen over trolley poles for ease of changeover, and that in torn dictated continued 3rd rail operation west of Maverick, due to the shape of the harbor tunnel arch.The decision was ratified when the South Shore extension was not only equipped with 3rd rail, but with extra wide 3rd rail, forming the biggest ice shelf north of Antartica. Thousands of kilowatts of 3rd rail heaters later the line sti;; produces winter fireworks, and don't touch the carbody in the station if the lights are out! (Boston uses "Elevated Style" 3rd rail as some work cars still use "Lindall" shoes. The 01400 cars were wired for pantographs as delivered in anticipation of that power source on the South Shore. The 01500s and 01600s were ordered after the decision was made and were not. Wire on the East Boston Libe begins at Maverick where the changeover was traditionally made. In the 1990s 3rd rail was extended to Airport to simplefy shuttle operations, and the changeover is now made there. |
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Posted by Gerry6309 on Fri Sep 5 19:42:06 2008, in response to Re: MBTA Boston: Blue Line's new cars, posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Aug 21 23:32:27 2008. Its closer than that, more like a half block or less in places, but general exposure is more applicable reason for the wire. |
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