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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 4 21:07:22 2008, in response to Re: 12 ca WMATA train, posted by R30A on Wed Jun 4 20:56:34 2008. Maybe they ran some short trains with mixed consists, but i really doubt a really long train of 20 cars was moved in service, would have been noticed, i think.Maybe an 11 car train would pass easily, unless a station tendant sees it, or the train hits the terminal. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jun 4 21:09:52 2008, in response to Re: 12 ca WMATA train, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 4 21:07:22 2008. 11 car trains were run in service on NYCT. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Jun 4 21:13:04 2008, in response to Re: 12 ca WMATA train, posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jun 4 21:09:52 2008. They still are. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jun 4 21:29:10 2008, in response to Re: 12 ca WMATA train, posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Jun 4 21:13:04 2008. Indeed.They were also run on lines where they don't currently run 11 cars. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jun 4 21:56:45 2008, in response to Re: 12 ca WMATA train, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jun 4 20:42:32 2008. best answered by 'Sandbox' |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jun 4 23:01:53 2008, in response to Re: 12 car WMATA train, posted by DCmetrogreen on Wed Jun 4 11:01:17 2008. The doors on the 7th and further back cars wouldn't open, now, would they?In theory none of the doors on any of the cars should have opened when the train berth at the Largo platform. The track circuit between the last axle on the 6th car and the WEE-Z bond at the end platform prevented the train from getting a train berth at platform OK to open doors signal from wayside because the axles on the 7th cars were shunting the track circuit. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jun 4 23:13:22 2008, in response to Re: 12 ca WMATA train, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Jun 4 12:37:22 2008. But she saw the lights later at another station though.True. Fact is control had to confirm the actual train length by asking the operator. The train was telling the train control system that the train was 6 cars long. The train control system displays in central control were showing the train as 6 cars. A more detailed display of the occupied track circuits would have revealed that the train was in fact longer then 6 cars. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jun 4 23:28:57 2008, in response to Re: 12 ca WMATA train, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Wed Jun 4 21:56:45 2008. > Do they have the Operators on the Platform like they do down here in RTO??> > Or is the Operator sitting home?? best answered by 'Sandbox' No. The terminal supervisor is in the dispatcher office at the endbound end of the platform. The dispatchers office at Largo has window that gives a clear view of most of the platform. Depending of where the personal in the office were sitting they may not have had a clear view of the full length of the platform. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jun 5 00:03:46 2008, in response to Re: 12 ca WMATA train, posted by Sand Box John on Wed Jun 4 23:28:57 2008. IINM he's asking whether or not the T/O is still at work or if she was sent home. I gather from the article that she's sitting at home. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Thu Jun 5 00:19:10 2008, in response to Re: 12 car WMATA train, posted by Charles G on Wed Jun 4 13:38:29 2008. That is only true if the marker for 6-car trains are set so that the train is perfectly centered on the platform. In NYC, the markers for short trains are sometimes at the front of the platform or rear of the platform (depending on inclines in the station or where the entrance/exit is located, I've assumed).If the marker were at the front of the platform at one station, 8 cars might have platformed there and taken on passengers. At a later station, with a centered marker the 8th car could have opened it's doors into the tunnel. My post is hypothetical -- I don't know whether all the markers are centered on WMATA. The stop marks are at the same location in all of the station 2, 4, 6 and 8. They are virtual marks (Most station have 4, 6 and 8 car stop mark signs). All trains shorter the 8 cars are programmed to stop at the center of the platform. Only one station is configured to long or short stop trains that are less then 8 cars long. That station is Gallery Place on the Red line. Trains less then 8 cars to Shady Grove short stop, trains less then 8 cars to Glenmont long stop. The program station stop part of the train control system tell the train where to stop at the platform. The program station stop function is executed when the rear end of the first car in the train passes over the marker coil pair located 2700' from the center of the platform. Train shorter then 8 cars that short or long stop at a platform are programmed to do so using the long short station stop control setting. Incline is not an issue on metrorail as all but 4 stations are inclined at 0.035% over the full length of the platform. The other 4 are level. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Thu Jun 5 00:27:18 2008, in response to Re: 12 ca WMATA train, posted by Easy on Thu Jun 5 00:03:46 2008. My bad. Likely sitting at home as inferred in the article.As another poster point out elsewhere this thread, WMATA tends to discipline operators for infraction that can be traced to equipment malfunctions. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 5 00:47:21 2008, in response to 12 ca WMATA train, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jun 3 19:38:51 2008. Hmm, nobody noticed that you posted in a Bahston accent. Not even MBTA runs "12-cah trains" that I've seen . . . |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jun 5 00:49:16 2008, in response to Re: 12 ca WMATA train, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 5 00:47:21 2008. Somebody noticed. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 5 00:51:05 2008, in response to Re: 12 ca WMATA train, posted by Easy on Thu Jun 5 00:49:16 2008. In a direct reply? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jun 5 05:08:16 2008, in response to Re: 12 ca WMATA train, posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jun 4 21:09:52 2008. still are |
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