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Posted by Grand concourse on Wed May 7 01:01:20 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by J trainloco on Wed May 7 00:39:09 2008. Agreed. And going by the R142's which costs over $1 mil per car, the R179's are gonna be much more costly and to cover just the R46's would require a LOT of $. I doubt the MTA would have enough to start mothballing the R68/a's b4 they turned 40. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Wed May 7 01:02:22 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by Eric B on Tue May 6 12:43:33 2008. Exactly! |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Wed May 7 01:04:18 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by Gold_12th on Tue May 6 23:44:14 2008. Well if it's other than the L, then I can see the R143's on the J/Z since they'd probably have the same amt of car needs and the J/Z route doesn't change much so a strip map that can light up stops for either the J or Z shouldn't be a problem. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Wed May 7 01:05:16 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue May 6 21:42:23 2008. I still think the C should be 10-car trains so that it would be easy to just switch trainsets for the A and C lines. Having an 8-car only set for the C limits trains the A can use. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Wed May 7 02:44:29 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by Eric B on Tue May 6 12:41:27 2008. Here's some other suggested improvements for R62/68:-Passenger intercom to train crew -Automated route annoucement -Improved HVAC (automatic climate control) -Digital LED exterior and interior signs with FIND -Microprocessor controls -On R62A/68/68A, replacement of WH CAM/E-CAM propulsion controller units with GE SCM -Replacement of bucket seating (R62/62A) with bench |
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Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays(MTA To Do More Dickoslap/Slapdick In The Future). |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed May 7 02:48:16 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays(MTA To Do More Dickoslap/Slapdick In The Future)., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 6 23:09:34 2008. Whoa whoa WHOA!!!Guy, I'm sensing some bad karma in your pants, there. Take it easy. |
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Posted by R30A on Wed May 7 03:06:14 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R42 4787 on Wed May 7 00:41:43 2008. That is really only because the way things are ordered has changed.The IRT R17-36s were prettymuch the same and numbered above 2500. Likewise, the R1-9s were all pretty similar and consisted of 1703 cars. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed May 7 07:19:59 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by Grand concourse on Wed May 7 01:05:16 2008. Isn't the (A) out of 207th Street yard while the (C) is out of Pitkin Yard, or am I missing something? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed May 7 07:20:35 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by Eric B on Tue May 6 21:44:00 2008. I see, it would be awesome to see a R143 on the (C). |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Wed May 7 14:34:56 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R42 4787 on Wed May 7 02:44:29 2008. This is almost a complete transformation of these cars into NTTs. With the cost of what these suggestions would entail, it probably wouldn't be worth such a heavy overhaul when new trains would be ordered within the next 15 to 20 years anyway. Or the next 5 or 10 as some are now suggesting. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed May 7 15:09:57 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by Jeff H. on Tue May 6 19:38:48 2008. The Bluebirds would be classified as a demo/test car and the original poster specifically excluded them. That's why the Zephyr and Green Hornet weren't mentioned. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed May 7 15:13:05 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by G1Ravage on Tue May 6 15:12:35 2008. That's true but sometimes in a severe emergency, such as an armed passenger in the car, physical harm can come to passengers waiting for the crew to even find out that there is a problem. Due to the crime and other emergency condition problem, passengers need IMMEDIATE access betwwen cars. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed May 7 15:20:22 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R30A on Wed May 7 03:06:14 2008. True. Also, these cars were fully compatible with each other unlike current car orders in which a letter suffix on the contract number render each equipment group incapable of operating together in the same train. If the MTA had any guts, it would mandate that all NTT car classes MUST be fully able to operate in trains with all other classes like the PATH did when they GOHed the PA-1s through PA-3s to be compatible with the PA-4s. |
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Posted by r30a on Wed May 7 18:12:03 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by randyo on Wed May 7 15:20:22 2008. I suspect that an R142a has fewer parts that would work on an R142 then an R10 has that would work on an R68 |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 20:16:01 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by r30a on Wed May 7 18:12:03 2008. 100% true. Some SMEEs are running on 50+ year old trucks from the R16 contracts and earlier. Traindude said this. Heck, you can run a slant with a brightliner if you wanted to. They regularly run 32s with 38s. There is a married pair of a 40 and 42. They even ran Redbirds with 62s, though not in passenger service, i believe. I also think there is a photo somewhere of an R10 hooked up to a slant. Anyways, R11s were definately compatible with all SMEEs. Shame the TA bought different, INCOMPATIBLE cars.Look at the arnine contracts R1-R9, all with interchangeable parts, and compatible. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 20:19:12 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R42 4787 on Wed May 7 00:41:43 2008. Which also overloaded pullman, and led to their downfall. Kawasaki even won't go that far to build 752 75 foot cars. They make a few cars at a time it seems. Their workers MATTER to them. One thing the japaneese have right there. Oh, and if you mandate more cars from them to reward a contract, they will tell you to go fluck yourselves. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 20:21:12 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays(MTA To Do More Dickoslap/Slapdick In The Future)., posted by G1Ravage on Wed May 7 02:48:16 2008. sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone, just a little frustrated by the mta's stupidity. Not to mention the recent spike in general stupidity of humans it seems. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed May 7 21:08:02 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 20:16:01 2008. And yet, despite their ability to operate together, they don't. Why do you think that is? |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 21:15:23 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by J trainloco on Wed May 7 21:08:02 2008. umm, 38s operate with 32s. A 40 operates with a 42. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed May 7 21:16:12 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 21:15:23 2008. You mean R40M's USED to operate with R42 CI rebuilds... |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed May 7 21:16:24 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 21:15:23 2008. Do R38s operate with R40s? |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed May 7 21:17:06 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by J trainloco on Wed May 7 21:16:24 2008. lol |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 21:19:19 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by J trainloco on Wed May 7 21:16:24 2008. If need be, yes, but generally speaking, no, not for passenger service. At one point all types ran together.Even now, the Redbirds run with the 62s on the 7 sometimes for yard transfers over the BMT, due to their having tripcocks on both sides of the trucks. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed May 7 21:30:06 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 21:19:19 2008. Why do the cars not operate together as a matter of standard practice? |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 21:38:33 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by J trainloco on Wed May 7 21:30:06 2008. I see 32 operate with 38s quite frequently on the A and the C lines. MTA doesn't usually operate other cars, probably to keep a clean, uniform look, and also because they might run better with their closer sisters, in general, but not always the case. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Wed May 7 22:03:39 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 21:38:33 2008. MTA doesn't usually operate other cars, probably to keep a clean, uniform look, and also because they might run better with their closer sisters, in general, but not always the case.rofl. you don't know the answer. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 23:09:09 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by J trainloco on Wed May 7 22:03:39 2008. ok, so tell me then. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu May 8 00:23:56 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by J trainloco on Wed May 7 22:03:39 2008. Theyre assigned to different yards! |
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Posted by J trainloco on Thu May 8 00:28:03 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R30A on Thu May 8 00:23:56 2008. lol! |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 8 00:31:24 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by J trainloco on Wed May 7 21:30:06 2008. FRA regulations. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Thu May 8 00:32:16 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 8 00:31:24 2008. ? |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 8 00:33:15 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 20:19:12 2008. Kawasaki refused taken the 825 car R62A order, claiming that it would overload its plant in Kobe in addition to the 325 R62s. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu May 8 00:43:31 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 8 00:31:24 2008. Subway isnt under FRA regulations.No subway cars are FRA compliant, although some R44s are under some kind of waiver to run on SI |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 8 00:43:53 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 8 00:31:24 2008. lol |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 8 00:44:46 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed May 7 20:16:01 2008. Anyways, R11s were definately {sic} compatible with all SMEEs.Not originally, I believe. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Thu May 8 00:47:48 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 8 00:44:46 2008. I remember reading that one R-11 was modified to be able to run with the R16s in the East. So, methinks you are correct. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu May 8 00:50:06 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R30A on Thu May 8 00:43:31 2008. You could have a subway train under FRAU supervision, so long as a married woman is the T/O.*If not married, the train woul be under Fraulein supervision. 8-) |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Thu May 8 02:17:52 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by randyo on Wed May 7 15:13:05 2008. I've thought of that too, and honestly, I don't think it's much of a difference. If you have the ability to "escape" from an armed nut between stations, the nut also has the ability to follow you through those same, unlocked doors. In other cases, the train usually arrives in a station fairly quickly.The extreme exception to this would be if an "emergency" occurred on an R-44 (A) train over the flats. |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Thu May 8 09:08:50 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by J trainloco on Thu May 8 00:47:48 2008. That was done when they were rebuilt under contract R34, after which they could run with any SMEE & they did. There are photos around with them running with all the 60 footers. |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Thu May 8 13:08:47 2008, in response to A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue May 6 00:54:37 2008. This is a bit premature but will the R179 have a layout like the R160 or will it have the transverse seating like the R44/46/68? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu May 8 13:40:48 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by J trainloco on Thu May 8 00:47:48 2008. IIRC the electric portions on the R-11s were different in that the pins were not tied to the same corresponding trainline circuits, relatively speaking, as their SMEE brethren. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 8 16:14:41 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by Forest Glen on Thu May 8 13:08:47 2008. Better have transverse seating. THAT is the one thing i like about the limos. Not that Arnines had longitudinal, excellent seating too, with comfy cushions. I want the 60 footers to have such seats too though. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu May 8 17:55:53 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 8 00:31:24 2008. I'm choking! |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu May 8 18:27:42 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by Forest Glen on Thu May 8 13:08:47 2008. It's so premature that NYCT hasn't made a decision yet! |
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Posted by randyo on Thu May 8 18:33:35 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by G1Ravage on Thu May 8 02:17:52 2008. That may be true but sometimes a split second is all that is necessary to ecape immediate danger especially if you are heading towards either the T/O or C/R. |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Thu May 8 18:43:39 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by randyo on Thu May 8 18:33:35 2008. If a person were coming after you, you would definitely be better off running from car to car to attempt an escape than having no alternative trapped behind a locked door. The only problem is that customers would likely abuse an unlocking switch or button and pass through a dangerous gap between the cars unaware of any worse danger than a 60' car. Maybe they could add an "In case of emergency, open door, alarm will sound" sticker to deter abuse. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 8 18:52:44 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R30A on Thu May 8 00:43:31 2008. PATH cars are FRA regulation, but are waivered on some issues, such as the high-mounted third headlamp. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Thu May 8 20:25:41 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed May 7 07:19:59 2008. I dunno, but since they share the same 'route' [168th to Euclid] I say they may as well share the same car lengths in case one needs to borrow from the other. |
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Posted by R30A on Fri May 9 02:30:50 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 8 18:52:44 2008. PATH cars are also heavily waviered. (IIRC the ditch light requirement would not apply to PATH as they have no grade crossings...) |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri May 9 06:35:34 2008, in response to Re: A few thing I heard on Mondays., posted by Broadway Buffer on Thu May 8 18:43:39 2008. Maybe they could add an "In case of emergency, open door, alarm will sound" sticker to deter abuse.No. Look what happened with the new "emergency" gates at stations. The alarms don't shut up, with all the goddamn morons punching the gate open to leave fare control. |
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