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Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Allan on Fri May 2 09:38:50 2008

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Since the annioversary went by with barely a whimper I figured that it might be worthwhile to look at the NY Times articles from May 1 - 4, 1908.

Viewing the artciles is free. When you get to each page click on "View full article" and that portion of the newpaper page should come up.


May 1, 1908

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E0DE5DA1639E333A25752C0A9639C946997D6CF&scp=4&sq=brooklyn+subway&st=p

May 2, 1908
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9D02E0DD1631E233A25751C0A9639C946997D6CF&scp=2&sq=brooklyn+subway&st=p

May 3, 1908

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9801E6DC1631E233A25750C0A9639C946997D6CF&scp=1&sq=brooklyn+subway&st=p

In the May 3rd article they mentioned talk of an extention to connect to the BRT Brighton line and actually running down to Coney Island. We know, of course, that never came to pass.

May 4, 1908 Did you know that a train derailed in the tube at 8 PM on May 3, 1908? I certainly didn't

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E01E7DB143EE233A25757C0A9639C946997D6CF&scp=1&sq=brooklyn+subway&st=p


The articles can be saved as Adobe .pdf files

If you can't get to the articles, send me an email and I can send you the .pdf files

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 2 10:18:07 2008, in response to Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Allan on Fri May 2 09:38:50 2008.

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I wouldn't say it went by with "barely a whimper"...

PHOTOS: Train of Many Colors ran today

Anyhow, thanks for the article URLs. Very cool.

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri May 2 10:29:16 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 2 10:18:07 2008.

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"I wouldn't say it went by with "barely a whimper"
Other than you catching it, and some posts about it here, there was no press or buzz.

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Fred G on Fri May 2 10:34:56 2008, in response to Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Allan on Fri May 2 09:38:50 2008.

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The articles can be saved as Adobe .pdf files

If you can't get to the articles, send me an email and I can send you the .pdf files


Now see? This is a good guy. Thanks, Allan.

your pal,
Fred


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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 2 10:38:27 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri May 2 10:29:16 2008.

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So far I only found this after the fact press:

Happy Birthday Atlantic Ave

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Allan on Fri May 2 10:42:18 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 2 10:18:07 2008.

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I saw the photos and they looked great but one would have thought that the TOMC would have done a ceremonial run from Bowling Green to Atlantic Avenue and not run up the 7th Avenue line.

Someone at the MTA was playing games and I assure you it I don't appreciate that. Obviously that person(s) have no sense of history.


BTW - there was not a single mention in any newspaper. That was why I posted the links to the NY Times 1908 articles.



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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri May 2 10:47:22 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Allan on Fri May 2 10:42:18 2008.

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"Someone at the MTA was playing games and I assure you it I don't appreciate that. Obviously that person(s) have no sense of history."

They knew what they were doing. Trust me. : )

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I stand corrected (Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles)

Posted by Allan on Fri May 2 10:47:31 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Allan on Fri May 2 10:42:18 2008.

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So the only article was in AMNY. It is nice to know someone cared.

I also stand corrected in that there was a ceremonial train from Grand Central to Atlantic Av which then run up the 7th Av line to 96th St.

But the question remains - how come the MTA didn't play this up like they did with the 100th Anniversary of the IND? IRT service to Brooklyn was a pivotal point in subway history (subway - not elevated history).



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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Allan on Fri May 2 10:49:31 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Fred G on Fri May 2 10:34:56 2008.

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Fred, you're welcome.

What surprised me is that the NYT had the articles for free. Usually they want a fee for items that old.

A big thank you to the NY Times for that.

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Allan on Fri May 2 10:59:54 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri May 2 10:47:22 2008.

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I am sure but after what was admitted in those AMNY articles (in another posting) about how much money is generated by NYC Subway memorabilia collectors (for items which would most likely otherwise wind up as scrap) you would think we would be treated with a bit more respect.



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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Fred G on Fri May 2 11:19:43 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Allan on Fri May 2 10:49:31 2008.

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They stopped charging for some of their services, like the columnists' pieces that used to be a premium. I'm glad to see their archives are now free as well.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 2 12:16:06 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Allan on Fri May 2 10:42:18 2008.

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but one would have thought that the TOMC would have done a ceremonial run from Bowling Green to Atlantic Avenue and not run up the 7th Avenue line.

It did do that. It ran from Grand Central to Atlantic Av and then from Atlantic Av to 96 St on the West Side.

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 2 12:26:32 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Fred G on Fri May 2 11:19:43 2008.

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oy, both of you are so confused.

from their FAQs:

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What is available in the Article Archive: 1851-1980?

The New York Times Article Archive: 1851-1980 includes New York Times articles with accompanying photos, charts and graphs from September 18, 1851 through December 31, 1980. These articles are in PDF Format which requires the Adobe Acrobat Reader.
Articles in the Public Domain (1851-1922) can be accessed for free.

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What is the Article Archive: 1981-Present?

The New York Times Article Archive: 1981-Present contains New York Times articles dating back to 1981.
All articles from 1987-Present are free.

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by BMTLines on Fri May 2 13:03:02 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri May 2 10:47:22 2008.

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Perhaps I should cancel my TM membership since obviously we are not wanted!!!

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 2 13:08:07 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by BMTLines on Fri May 2 13:03:02 2008.

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I don't think anything about the reasons behind what went on yesterday are obvious.

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242-VCP Extension Article Here (was: Brooklyn IRT 100 - NY Times articles)

Posted by South Ferry on Fri May 2 15:26:43 2008, in response to Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Allan on Fri May 2 09:38:50 2008.

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Thanks Allan for the lead....

August 2, 1908-- Completion of el to 242nd Street - Van Cortlandt Park

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E06E1DB113EE033A25751C0A96E9C946997D6CF&scp=12&sq=SUBWAY+VAN+CORTLANDT&st=p

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by joe c on Fri May 2 15:36:37 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by BMTLines on Fri May 2 13:03:02 2008.

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Were you told you wen't wanted?did someone from the TM tell you that
the TM didn't want you?




til next time

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by South Ferry on Fri May 2 16:48:44 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 2 12:16:06 2008.

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Figures. The south motor said 4 ATLANTIC AVENUE and the north 2 96st Bway.

So then it musta left GC around, what, 12 noon??

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Re: 242-VCP Extension Article Here (was: Brooklyn IRT 100 - NY Times articles)

Posted by Allan on Fri May 2 18:06:07 2008, in response to 242-VCP Extension Article Here (was: Brooklyn IRT 100 - NY Times articles), posted by South Ferry on Fri May 2 15:26:43 2008.

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Isn't the INternet great? Years ago if we wanted this article we would have to go to the NY Public library, look in the "Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature" and then go to a library branch that had that dates paper on microfilm and even then that branch might not have a microfilm reader with a working printer.

One thing - remember to repost this on August 1, 2008 (ro August 2) when the 100th Anniversary of this event comes along.

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by BMTLines on Fri May 2 18:10:38 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by joe c on Fri May 2 15:36:37 2008.

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In this case I was responding to the comments thet the TM did not publicize this trip so that railfans would not know about it. If true then yes - we are unwanted :-(

Seriously I have other issues with them that go far deeper and a lot more personal than this though...

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Re: 242-VCP Extension Article Here (was: Brooklyn IRT 100 - NY Times articles)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 2 19:26:52 2008, in response to 242-VCP Extension Article Here (was: Brooklyn IRT 100 - NY Times articles), posted by South Ferry on Fri May 2 15:26:43 2008.

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cool

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 2 19:27:34 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by BMTLines on Fri May 2 18:10:38 2008.

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The TM never publicizes these trips...

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Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 2 19:29:37 2008, in response to Re: Brooklyn IRT anniversry - NY Times articles, posted by South Ferry on Fri May 2 16:48:44 2008.

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yeah, probably

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Re: 242-VCP Extension Article Here (was: Brooklyn IRT 100 - NY Times articles)

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri May 2 20:36:05 2008, in response to 242-VCP Extension Article Here (was: Brooklyn IRT 100 - NY Times articles), posted by South Ferry on Fri May 2 15:26:43 2008.

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And 100 years later, it's got no further.

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Re: 242-VCP Extension Article Here (was: Brooklyn IRT 100 - NY Times articles)

Posted by SMAZ on Sat May 3 03:01:15 2008, in response to Re: 242-VCP Extension Article Here (was: Brooklyn IRT 100 - NY Times articles), posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri May 2 20:36:05 2008.

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And 100 years later, it's got no further.


People in Fieldston/Riverdale don't want an ugly el extending further north.

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Re: 242-VCP Extension Article Here (was: Brooklyn IRT 100 - NY Times articles)

Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun May 4 11:33:47 2008, in response to Re: 242-VCP Extension Article Here (was: Brooklyn IRT 100 - NY Times articles), posted by Allan on Fri May 2 18:06:07 2008.

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Now you are bringing back lost memories. I had totally forgotten about the Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature, although I used it frequently.

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