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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 18:31:01 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:17:21 2008. SO basically you don't care how bad local service is so long as the E is express? |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:31:34 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 15 18:25:50 2008. improving R service is a great idea, but its never gonna happenthe R is long and local, so it takes a long time for it to come i say we can terminate select trains at whitehall or city hall to shorten it, for example we can have every other train end early so then it would be shorter and come quicker |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 15 18:32:12 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:29:17 2008. then i think they should reuse those tracks thenWhat equipment you propose they use for revenue service if i might ask? |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:32:50 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 15 18:32:12 2008. His foamy R32's...? |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:32:52 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 18:31:01 2008. i do care, but i'm used to waiting ridiculous times anyway for the R to come, and the last thing i want is my E to be local.if your gonna make it local make the F local, not the E local. |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:33:45 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 15 18:32:12 2008. well since the long trains can't fit on the J/M/Z track then we're stuck with using the Excellent R32, the R38 R40 and R42's |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 18:33:51 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:32:50 2008. Lol, taking them from his excellent express for a local? :) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:33:58 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:32:52 2008. Don't ever make my god damn (F) local! I need it to go express! Make your damn (E) local! |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:35:01 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 18:33:51 2008. Why not? Most crews on the (F) hate the 32's. They prefer the 46's. |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:35:02 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:33:58 2008. well then you can change for the Ein queens the E is way more crowded than the F |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:36:24 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:35:02 2008. Um, no, because I take the (F) STRAIGHT from 71st avenue, to 15th street/prospect home, and it tales me an average of 50-55 mins. Taking the (E) would make me get home later. Why aren't you thinking? |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:38:06 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:36:24 2008. then the F and the E will run express, and we'll just have to increase the R service or have the G or V on weekends |
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Re: Reroute the E and R lines in Lower Manhattan [Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall] |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:38:43 2008, in response to Re: Reroute the E and R lines in Lower Manhattan [Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall], posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 18:30:15 2008. that's a shame, smith/9th is one of my favorite photo spots...oh well |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:39:02 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:38:06 2008. THERE WE GO! Now you thinking! Make the (G) 6 cars again, and make them finish this G.O. and make (G) go to queens on weekends. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Tue Apr 15 18:40:39 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:32:52 2008. It would make more sense to run the E local, as the F doesn't stop at Queens Plaza. |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:43:40 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:39:02 2008. 6 cars? how are they gonna pull that off with the R46's?i thought the R46's were linked into 4 car sets with a few exceptions |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:44:43 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by The Port of Authority on Tue Apr 15 18:40:39 2008. if you want Queens Plaza then you can either wait for an R, or take the local to Roosevelt where you can transfer to the E Express stopping at queens plaza |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:44:49 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:43:40 2008. Um, you never seen the 2-car sets? I see them often on the (G), with the rest being either on the (F), (R), or (V). |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:46:34 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:44:49 2008. i seen a train with 2 car sets on the R beforemost of the time in my experience the G is just one 4 car set train |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:47:52 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:46:34 2008. Well, those 2 car sets used to be on the (G) back when it was 6 cars, which they SHOULD be back to 6 cars because the trains are crowded as hell during rush hour. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 15 18:48:03 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:33:45 2008. Excellent R32, the R38 R40 and R42'sGive it a few years you wont be seeing a lot of those trains... BTW R160A 8512-13-14-8515 on property at 207 Yard... |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:48:41 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 15 18:48:03 2008. Thanks for the 411, 718... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 15 18:49:50 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:48:41 2008. Anytime ... |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:49:56 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 15 18:48:03 2008. sadly... |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:51:01 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:49:56 2008. The R160's are the best! Especially the R160A's with there cool motor sounds! :) |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 19:01:53 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:32:52 2008. Again, how many times must it be explained to you: the F is a very long line that is mostly local outside of Queens. It can't have any more stops or else current headways would be affected for the worse.The E is a much shorter line that ends in Manhattan and can afford to make additional stops without having a detrimental effect on headways. You really have to stop this obsession over the E because it runs the R32's you love to stick your head at the rfw so often. If you don't like the E local then that's what the F [as a Queens Blvd express] is for. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 19:02:58 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 19:01:53 2008. You explained it excellently. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 19:04:15 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:43:40 2008. You really must be new to Queens blvd lines: the G always ran 6-car R46's before the V train was created. There are enough AA [cabs on both ends] cars to allow for a 6-car train to run. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 19:05:54 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:38:06 2008. This is speculation if:1 the G no longer runs on QB 2 the MTA doesn't run the V on weekends 3 the R isn't given extra trains to run to cover local service on Queens Blvd [4 a far fetched idea to run the Q to Queens Blvd] That is where having one of the express as local comes in |
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Re: Reroute the E and R lines in Lower Manhattan [Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall] |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Tue Apr 15 19:05:57 2008, in response to Re: Reroute the E and R lines in Lower Manhattan [Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall], posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:38:43 2008. Its not closing forever its just temperary closing to get some repair work...... |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 19:12:39 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:31:34 2008. Of course, ideally the R needs at least 4-6 extra trains to cover all local service on QB. Then you can run those extra R trains to Whitehall [There's no point to end them at City hall lower level]. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 19:12:56 2008, in response to Re: Reroute the E and R lines in Lower Manhattan [Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall], posted by R33/R36 mainline on Tue Apr 15 19:05:57 2008. exactly. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 19:13:20 2008, in response to Re: Reroute the E and R lines in Lower Manhattan [Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall], posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:38:43 2008. so go out and take all the pics you want now while you still can... |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 19:14:52 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:35:01 2008. I know, I meant for error. R32's from the E/F to the V to go over the Willy B = "would he approve of that"?**of course not like it's up to him anyway. |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Tue Apr 15 19:17:43 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:35:01 2008. Why do F line crews hate the R32s? |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 19:19:18 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Tue Apr 15 19:17:43 2008. Cabs are uncomfortable. The 46's have much more comfortable cabs, and T/O's love the way they operate. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Tue Apr 15 19:36:43 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:35:01 2008. Crews notwithstanding, passenger comfort is much higher on the R46s than on the R32s. I like having a minuscule bit of my own space whilst sitting in one of the window-facing seats. |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 20:14:37 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:51:01 2008. only the siemens has cool motor sounds, the regular ones sound weird |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 20:14:55 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 20:14:37 2008. lol |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 20:20:18 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 19:01:53 2008. OK then i'd like to see you suffer the E running localon the weekends, i have to take the E all the way to the terminal World Trade Center. just it running local in manhattan is bad, so the last thing i want is it running local in queens. and i am sure lots of other people will agree with me the E is Essential to people travelling to manhattan and it running local would be a very big inconvience. most people who ride the E on weekends get off at Lex/53rd to get the #6 and an F Express would be useless since they can't get the 6 at Lex/63rd |
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Re: Reroute the E and R lines in Lower Manhattan [Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall] |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 20:21:03 2008, in response to Re: Reroute the E and R lines in Lower Manhattan [Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall], posted by R33/R36 mainline on Tue Apr 15 19:05:57 2008. oh thank goodness then |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 20:22:49 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 9 03:00:32 2008. "More R trains on the weekend, with some turning at Whitehall to provide shorter headways between Manhattan and Queens is the only solution I see. "i think they should turn instead at city hall since that curve at Rector Street and Cortlant Street is very slow and takes a long time |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Apr 15 20:36:50 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 20:20:18 2008. Local in Manhattan adds TWO stops over the Express.ROAR |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 20:37:04 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 20:20:18 2008. How is it suffering? If riders don't want to ride the local they can take the F and if they are going to WTC, they can transfer at W4th [which is more direct a route than what the E line goes when it goes to 8th Av and curves back to 6th Av].Well not everyone has to take the 6 at 53rd-Lex, they can take the R to 59th where they can also choose to take the 4/5 as well. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 20:45:21 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Apr 15 20:37:04 2008. Also I ride the 2 local from Chambers to Flatbush. I pretty much can tolerate a local run. Rush hours you would be better off in a local anyway.Non-rush hours there are less traffic so a local isn't as slow as it is during the rush hours. So it isn't 'hell' to have to make [for your case] an additional "wow 5 more stops" from 74th-roosevelt to Queens Plaza! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 15 23:06:37 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 18:31:34 2008. Improving service on weekends is more realistic than adding an new line on weekends. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Tue Apr 15 23:16:38 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by error46146 on Tue Apr 15 20:20:18 2008. Can anyone tell just when did the E-train run make all local stops on the Queens Blvd line during the day-time/early evening portions of the weekends ever in the history of the IND subway system?The early initial building period of the IND subway system would be the exception, but ever since the F-train came into existence, the E-train was express. Of course G.O.'s and emergency conditions are exceptions - we are talking about regular service. I see no rush on the MTA's part to change that, no matter the situation with the local service. Midnight hour service - yes - that has changed over the years/decades - but not the day-time early evening service. Just why do folks say that Brooklyn R-train riders should get screwed when proposing additional R-train service? Having many of the trains terminate at Whitehall Street is no benefit to Brooklyn riders. Just a reminder. Mike |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 15 23:47:23 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Apr 15 18:33:58 2008. You really shouldn't swear like that...It doesn't do anything for your image except make you seem like you can't grasp ENGLISH ARTICULATION... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 15 23:59:40 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by Michael549 on Tue Apr 15 23:16:38 2008. Simple...Most cases..folks only care about what affect THEM..not others...[see Error for a prime example of this..] It doesn't matter if the line has riders in BROOKLYN that need it just as bad as the Queens Blvd riders do... Start short turning trains at Whitehall...what gonna happen to the folks the want 4th avenue local stations?It bad enough that the headways suck as bad as the do as it is...but short turning train IN MANHATTAN sends the WRONG MESSAGE TO RIDERS. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 16 00:04:46 2008, in response to Re: G Train Hearing at City Hall, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 15 23:59:40 2008. Well, if you look at numbers, the ridership levels at Queens stations justify the need for short turning R's trains at Whitehall, since more trains are needed between Manhattan and Queens compared to Manhattan and Brooklyn. |
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