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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Sep 29 22:36:15 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 28 12:26:43 2007. How are the conductors using a switch that was previously wired B+ off the reversor? Are they using a key switch to power it or is it fed off the zone relays? |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 30 01:17:22 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Grand concourse on Fri Sep 28 17:51:23 2007. that's not sarcasm |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 30 01:18:18 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 11:17:39 2007. you da man |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 30 01:19:09 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 12:31:26 2007. Good thing I always carry my camera with me.I've been saying it for years. Glad you agree. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 30 01:21:01 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by PATHman on Fri Sep 28 16:45:56 2007. I don't think it looks tacky. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 30 01:21:30 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R30A on Fri Sep 28 21:09:06 2007. YES! |
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Re: [Check Your email,dude!] A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 30 01:23:21 2007, in response to Re: [Check Your email,dude!] A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 20:49:09 2007. lol |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 30 01:23:40 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by PATHman on Sat Sep 29 17:41:29 2007. no, your posts continue... |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Sep 30 01:54:38 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Michael549 on Fri Sep 28 12:06:53 2007. You know..all of this can be solved with one very simple wave of the "wand"..so to speak.Change the "7 EXPRESS" TO THE "11". Then the riders will KNOW for SURE what train it is...if the 7 is the local at ALL TIMES, the 11 is the deak directional EXPRESS. |
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9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 30 02:10:27 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 19:45:46 2007. My pics:  
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 30 02:22:07 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Edwards! on Sun Sep 30 01:54:38 2007. no, that won't solve any problems. the problem is correct signage, not what it on the signage. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Sep 30 09:33:15 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 28 11:14:23 2007. That problem can be solved with station signage and platform signage indicating what the arriving train will do.There already are such signs at Grand Central (or at least there were a few years ago). Electronic signs wouldn't even be necessary at Times Square, since expresses almost always leave from the outbound track. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Sep 30 09:34:09 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 28 12:38:28 2007. A lot of the cars don't even have the switches anymore.How do they plan on retrofitting those cars? |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Sep 30 09:35:32 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Lord Vader on Fri Sep 28 17:47:16 2007. If folks riding the 7 cannot distinguish between the local/exp services with the circle and diamond, that's sad and the station signage is clear as day. No more excuses if no speaka inglish.Circles and diamonds aren't in de inglish. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Sep 30 10:03:23 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Sep 29 22:36:15 2007. Gotta assume the existing ENRCON switch was wired through another pin. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Sep 30 12:09:20 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Sep 30 09:34:09 2007. Just stick a new switch in? |
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Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line) |
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Posted by Lord Vader on Sun Sep 30 15:32:37 2007, in response to 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 30 02:10:27 2007. Can't get no better signage than that.Lord Vader |
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Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line) |
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Posted by WillD on Sun Sep 30 15:47:29 2007, in response to Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line), posted by Lord Vader on Sun Sep 30 15:32:37 2007. Why? That's exactly what the R62 set with the LED Exp/Lcl sign has. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Green over Green on Sun Sep 30 15:55:03 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 19:38:06 2007. I never understood why they didn't have motors in those roll signs which could be controlled remotely. The technology to do this (sychronizing, indexing and step motors) has been around for many decades. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Sep 30 15:56:36 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Green over Green on Sun Sep 30 15:55:03 2007. True. The LRVs on the L. A. Metro Blue Line have synchronized roll signs, which are controlled by the T/O. Of course, they have 3 cars max, not 11. |
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Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line) |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Sep 30 17:46:21 2007, in response to 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 30 02:10:27 2007. Oh that's cute, experimental LCD signs when they know the cars lives were soon to end.Bill "Newkirk" |
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Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line) |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Sep 30 17:59:57 2007, in response to Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line), posted by WillD on Sun Sep 30 15:47:29 2007. That R62 set has destination signage on the front??? |
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Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line) |
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Posted by WillD on Sun Sep 30 18:21:35 2007, in response to Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line), posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Sep 30 17:59:57 2007. Alright fine, they don't have that, but in my limited experience with the R33s and R36s on the Flushing line they were rarely turned to reflect the destination anyway. A Flushing bound 7 train was just as likely to have "Times Square" displayed on the rear end. As such I can't quite see why the front end destination sign was neccesary. Clearly the MTA agreed, since they eliminated those signs completely. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sun Sep 30 19:07:46 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Sep 30 09:33:15 2007. Funny at Times Square, I thought that both of the tracks on the single platform station are "out-bound" tracks. Those same tracks could also be called "in-bound" tracks but since Times Square is the last stop, that's a minor nit-pick.Just because #7 express trains tend to operate from a particular track - when all of the tracks have the same function/capability - does not make that track anymore special. Mike |
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Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line) |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Sep 30 19:58:02 2007, in response to Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line), posted by WillD on Sun Sep 30 18:21:35 2007. As such I can't quite see why the front end destination sign was neccesary. Clearly the MTA agreed, since they eliminated those signs completely.I guess it could go back to the days when people knew their trains by route or destination rather than number or letter. However, most other systems in the country still have front end destination signs, so some still feel that it serves a purpose. I think the EXP/LCL lights were even more important and were definitely a mistake to eliminate as it has already come back to haunt them. |
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Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line) |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 1 00:01:12 2007, in response to 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Sep 30 02:10:27 2007. I miss the redbirds. |
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Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 1 00:12:32 2007, in response to Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line), posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 1 00:01:12 2007. me too |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 1 02:45:04 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat Sep 29 16:09:18 2007. The D types had bridge/tunnel indicators. The word "BRIDGE" lit up in green and the word "TUNNEL" lit up in white. To correspond to the side signs' color coding, the end signs lit up green if the train were operating via the bridge and white if it were operating via the tunnel. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Mr RT on Mon Oct 1 07:56:11 2007, in response to A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 07:32:16 2007. Terrorist alert ... there is R36 9346 taking pictures :-) |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 08:05:18 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Green over Green on Sun Sep 30 15:55:03 2007. The R46's had this technology when they had rollsigns. |
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Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line) |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 08:08:16 2007, in response to Re: 9574 LCD EXP/LCL (Was: Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line), posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Sep 30 17:46:21 2007. Keep in mind that my photo of 9574 was taken in 1999. The others were posted in the Last Days of the Redbirds. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 08:10:42 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Sat Sep 29 15:14:10 2007. I saw 2147 and 2149 on the 7 last night. No sign of any LED signs. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 08:38:10 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 1 02:45:04 2007. Thanks for the clarification. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 1 11:25:38 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 19:38:06 2007. 33 signs? I count 22 side signs and 2 signs on the end for a total of 24... |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Oct 1 11:52:16 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 1 11:25:38 2007. ALL the end signs have them too. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 1 11:53:41 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Mon Oct 1 11:52:16 2007. The intermediate end signs don't mean anything. They wouldn't need to be changed. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 12:30:55 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 08:10:42 2007. I saw and rode the consist this morning, and it's as originally posted. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Mon Oct 1 17:50:07 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 08:05:18 2007. Were they reliable? I know they didn't allow for much flexibility with limited destination/route combinations. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 17:55:26 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Broadway Buffer on Mon Oct 1 17:50:07 2007. When the rolls got dirty, the sign would just scroll back and forth until the motor burned out. I'm sure others who remember them better can better answer your question. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Mon Oct 1 17:58:09 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 17:55:26 2007. Thanks. I had a feeling something like that would happen. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 17:59:50 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 1 11:53:41 2007. That's right. I miscounted. All that needs to be changed in worst case scenario are the two side signs in each car and the end sign at the front of the train, which totals 23 signs. |
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MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 18:23:34 2007, in response to DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 16:33:58 2007. For those who like macro shots 102 segments (if you count the decimal points)  TTFN 
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Re: MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Oct 1 18:25:23 2007, in response to MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 18:23:34 2007. They should have made them bigger on the outside curtain sign. |
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Re: MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 1 18:38:09 2007, in response to Re: MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Oct 1 18:25:23 2007. No they shouldn't have. If they had, the LCDs would have covered over important parts of the route bullet. In order to make the LCDs bigger, they would have needed to either install new smaller route bullets, or figured out a way to install them in the blacked out area of the window. |
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Re: MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 1 18:38:30 2007, in response to MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 18:23:34 2007. great pics, thanks!!! |
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Re: MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Oct 1 18:39:42 2007, in response to Re: MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 1 18:38:09 2007. Not THAT much bigger, only a couple on C.M. bigger, just enough to NOT to block the bullet. |
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Re: MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 1 18:47:06 2007, in response to Re: MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Oct 1 18:39:42 2007. What would a couple of centimeters do? |
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Re: MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Oct 1 18:50:48 2007, in response to MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 18:23:34 2007. HEY!Wernt the LCL lights supposed to be GREEN and the EXP lights supposed to be red. THEM DUDES BETTER GET WITH IT if they want to emulate the GREAT cars such as the ARNINES! ROAR |
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Re: MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 1 18:52:29 2007, in response to Re: MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 1 18:47:06 2007. I take that back. Two centimeters might make a significant readability difference. But it might also cover too much of the route bullets.If you want the LCD to be bigger, I think it is an issue of maybe using some other designation besides LCL/EXP. Maybe L and E. Those letters could be made bigger. |
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Re: MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Oct 1 18:53:16 2007, in response to MOAR DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 1 18:23:34 2007. Nice!That R62A has a new paintjob. |
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