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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Sep 30 18:52:38 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 30 17:14:03 2007.

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Right..I mean..thats what it was put there for,wasn't it?

Why CAN'T they use the "11" sign...?

Really..what stoppin' them...?

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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 30 19:43:42 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Edwards! on Sun Sep 30 18:52:38 2007.

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Lawsuit from 7-11? Haven't we cheesed off Pakistan enough already? =)

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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Sep 30 20:15:24 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Sep 30 16:58:47 2007.

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That's a shame...

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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Sep 30 20:17:19 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 30 19:43:42 2007.

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Lol that'd be something the MTA getting sued for trademark infringment, while the MTA sued a bagel shop for using the orange F on its sign.

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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Sep 30 21:59:44 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 18:00:24 2007.

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Tried that sometime ago before the R62 purchase..

The plan was to see if an 65ft car could work in the A Division.

Two R12s were used,I believe..and there Were problems but not like you think.
It was discovered that a 60-65 ft car COULD operate in the A Division..with a few modification to the 14th st Union Square platforms ,South ferry..and a few key locations around the system...

But the COST to retrofit the A division was a problem the MTA did Not want to deal with[sort of what they went thur to pave the way for the R44's and future 75ft B Division cars]..

So,with that in mind..the scrapped the whole program..and purchased the R62/62A as "regular" 51fters...

The problem with the 7 line is the Steinway Tunnels.[built for street cars,taken over by the Interboro Subway..used as a subway tunnel]
The Subway portion is built to DUAL CONTRACT size[After Grand Central,BEFORE THE STEINWAY TUBES,and the ENTIRE ELEVATED LINE to the Main st subway station.]

It would cost too much to refit the line for BMTIND lines..reroute the Manhattan line to somewhere else.

It better to just leave things the way they are,or extend the platforms slightly to add another car to the sets.


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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Sep 30 22:05:07 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Edwards! on Sun Sep 30 21:59:44 2007.

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Sadly it always comes down to the Steinway Tunnels...
Well I guess plan B it is, just extend all platforms on the 7 to hold 12-car trains. Either that or order 12-car 50'trains so the 7 will be 600'.

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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Sep 30 22:06:04 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sun Sep 30 22:05:07 2007.

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I mean 50' cars each in a 12-car train = 600'

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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 30 22:22:49 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sun Sep 30 20:17:19 2007.

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I'm humming the words now to an old Jackson Browne tune called "Lawyers in Love." I'll be suing you! :)

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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by BIE on Sun Sep 30 22:25:48 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 30 22:22:49 2007.

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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Sep 30 22:33:40 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 30 19:43:42 2007.

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Lawsuit from 7-11? Haven't we cheesed off Pakistan enough already? =)

Incorrecto, changing a 7 EXP to an 11 would further confuse the geese since they would have to learn a new number and for them that takes time.

Bill "Newkirk"



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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 30 22:41:42 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Sep 30 22:33:40 2007.

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Another reason! And just to throw in yet one more, either way you're shooting craps. Don't think MTA would go for *that* either. =)

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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sun Sep 30 23:50:18 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 30 18:18:32 2007.

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Then why would they have decided on 11 as the extra Flushing service in the first place? Why didn't they use 8 or 9 as the extra Flushing service?

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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Sep 30 23:55:11 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sun Sep 30 23:50:18 2007.

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Leftover numbers for maybe future expansions? Either way the 11 will not help anymore than a diamond 7 as the train could be changed from a local to express at a moment and then the sign would be wrong. Not all numbers have to be used.

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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 30 23:59:35 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sun Sep 30 23:50:18 2007.

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8 was originally intended for the Dyre, but ended up being Bronx Third Avenue El (not likely to return) and the 9 was set aside for Broadway service. Dunno what the 10 was intended for but they did go with purple for 11, next number up. I suppose the only practical answer is "now we know why there are random drug tests for the wrong people." :)

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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Oct 1 00:04:37 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 30 23:59:35 2007.

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Hold on..wasn't Dyre Avenue 9 service markers on the R12 thur 15..and 8 was Astoria?

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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 1 00:19:21 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Edwards! on Mon Oct 1 00:04:37 2007.

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Yep ... you're right ... was going to go in for the night but suppose I'd better wait around for our moderator to tell me I got pwned first. =)

Sorry, I'm not a big follower of car numbers, fantasy routes and maps. But if ya wanna talk about voltage dropout contactors and group switch cams, I can hold my own.

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