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This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)

Posted by South Ferry on Fri Sep 15 00:28:47 2006

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Danbury Railway Museum is running a special "RDC Budd Car Day" on (this)Saturday Sept. 16, 2006...

Supposedly the Roger Williams Car will be run in service at the DRM..

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Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)

Posted by chuchubob on Fri Sep 15 06:55:26 2006, in response to This BUDD's for you... (Danbury), posted by South Ferry on Fri Sep 15 00:28:47 2006.

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NH conventional Budd Car and Roger Williams cars, photographed at Danbury Oct 23, 2005



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Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)

Posted by avid reader on Fri Sep 15 07:20:07 2006, in response to Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury), posted by chuchubob on Fri Sep 15 06:55:26 2006.

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Great!
Which came first? Was the nose added to a "standard Budd" or was it a proto-type.

avid

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Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)RW

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Sep 15 07:40:29 2006, in response to Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury), posted by avid reader on Fri Sep 15 07:20:07 2006.

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The Roger williams was a special build set build for New Haven Railroad, it had higher HP engines, 6 cars total with propulsion in both Diesel and third rail mode.
They had a traction motor on idler axles and there fore different trucks. they had outside swing hanger trucks to make room for the traction motors.
The car Belong to James Gagliardi he managed to save two outside cars and one blind trailer(no controls but with engine)

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Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)RW

Posted by Atomsk on Fri Sep 15 09:42:17 2006, in response to Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)RW, posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Sep 15 07:40:29 2006.

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Do the RW cars use traction motors?

Standard RDCs use a drive shaft and gearbox, to transfer power from the diesels to the inboard axle on each truck. The shaft connects to the engine crank through a torque converter, like the automatic transmission on a car.

In addition to the differences Dutch pointed out, the Roger Williams cars had a lower roofline, which is evident when you see one of these cars coupled to a conventional RDC. They also used a single piece car side, as opposed to the more conventional siding on the RDC, which is evident in the two pictures above.

With all these changes, it wouldn't surprise me if they did go to an electric transmission, as opposed to the RDC's hydraulic, but I've never seen that mentioned anywhere.

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Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)RW

Posted by South Ferry on Fri Sep 15 13:54:36 2006, in response to Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)RW, posted by Atomsk on Fri Sep 15 09:42:17 2006.

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The flyer says "Ride the Roger Williams" for 9/16 at Danbury... !!

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Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)RW

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Sep 16 07:39:55 2006, in response to Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)RW, posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Sep 15 07:40:29 2006.

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Dutch,

You know where the Roger Williams set was last used or stored before Danbury got them ?

Bill "Newkirk"

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Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)RW

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Sep 16 08:37:41 2006, in response to Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)RW, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Sep 16 07:39:55 2006.

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The cars were stored in Cedar Hill where a few MNCR employees on their own time rebuild these cars for Mr Gagliardi. they were on the old NH airline for a few months to.
The last use was for Amtrak on springfield line.

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Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)RW

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Sep 16 08:39:46 2006, in response to Re: This BUDD's for you... (Danbury)RW, posted by Atomsk on Fri Sep 15 09:42:17 2006.

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The traction motors were on the Idler axles, the RW did have standard engine/torq converter drive with spicer drives despite a higer gearing .

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