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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by J trainloco on Wed Jul 26 00:25:03 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 26 00:23:35 2006.

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I liked the blue brick.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 26 00:28:23 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 26 00:09:04 2006.

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Yes, R32's and R42's were regular sights on the M when it ran on the Brighton line. After it got shifted over to the West End, nothing but R27/30's and the alarmingly increasing numbers of R16's. A similar thing happened when the M took over for the QJ in 1973. The R1/9's were a rarity on the QJ, then seemed to dominate. I guess Brighton line riders were just a better class of people than we Eastern division scum were.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 26 00:29:51 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Jul 26 00:19:38 2006.

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Not bad at all. OK, try this job on for size ... 6:40AM put-in from Stillwell yard, 2 round trips to 205th, layup to Stillwell. Book off around 1040'ish unless there was an extra to pick up (O/T) then report back at 1645 for one more RT to 205th, layup on the return to Stillwell, then either sent home or drill car duty (arnines) over to CIY or up to 168th for B to AA splits. Sometimes I'd get hijacked at 205th for CCYD layups or sent down to 168th to add B's from AA's ... but the 2 AM and 1 PM run were part of it, the rest was what they call "WAA" today ...

Fun job with one little problem. I *lived* at 205th. :(

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 26 00:37:12 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by J trainloco on Wed Jul 26 00:09:15 2006.

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We didn't have no fancified in-tur-net back in those days. In those days, you played Burgertime on your 8-bit Colecovision, wondering how you could have spent $500 on a piece of crap "computer upgrade" called ADAM. That's the way it was and we liked it!


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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by J trainloco on Wed Jul 26 00:37:20 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 26 00:28:23 2006.

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I guess Brighton line riders were just a better class of people than we Eastern division scum were.

OR, there were more of them.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 26 00:39:44 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by J trainloco on Wed Jul 26 00:24:33 2006.

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You'd have to ask others. Outside the J train, I had very little exposure to the system. I knew the A used slants up to about 1985, then they disappeared.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 26 00:40:55 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by J trainloco on Wed Jul 26 00:25:03 2006.

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So did I, until I saw what was under it.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by J trainloco on Wed Jul 26 00:44:11 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 26 00:37:12 2006.

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I can recall when people with 28.8K modems were on top of the game. It took a while before my fam was online.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by J trainloco on Wed Jul 26 00:48:50 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 26 00:40:55 2006.

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Hmm, I've passed there 3 times and haven't paid much attention. I'll check it out.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by 5119 on Wed Jul 26 01:32:16 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jul 25 21:09:25 2006.

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The "good old days" to me were the late 50's and early 60's, when Lo-V's, AB/D types, and R1/9's ran. Remember my first trip on an R-17 on the #6 in 6/56, when the family took a trip to Pelham Bay Park. This route still had some Hi-V's running, as we saw one at Parkchester.

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Re: I meant 1986, not 1989 in above post. Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by 5119 on Wed Jul 26 01:34:28 2006, in response to Re: I meant 1986, not 1989 in above post. Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 25 23:21:02 2006.

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What was wrong with the R-16's?

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Re: I meant 1986, not 1989 in above post. Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by JBar387 on Wed Jul 26 01:38:10 2006, in response to Re: I meant 1986, not 1989 in above post. Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by 5119 on Wed Jul 26 01:34:28 2006.

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Too Many Things, the doors for one! Always bad because of the motors.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by 5119 on Wed Jul 26 01:47:57 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 25 21:47:14 2006.

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"It was seedy west of Boradway. At least 94th street was. This is where I lived while attending Graduate School from 3/73-6/74. At lot of transient and "feral" individuals lived on the block between West End Avenue and Riverside Drive.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by JBar387 on Wed Jul 26 01:48:33 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by J trainloco on Tue Jul 25 21:28:47 2006.

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I remember riding the 7 (this is when I was maybe 5 or so) and we (My mom and sis) were in the rear car and the rear door was open,It was a hot day and this was way before A/C was put in to the R-36wf's.I belive we were heading toward 111th street.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by 5119 on Wed Jul 26 01:52:42 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by David of Broadway on Tue Jul 25 21:43:03 2006.

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Or the #'s 4/5 from 1972 on.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 26 02:29:17 2006, in response to Pic: blast from the past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 25 17:47:44 2006.

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DAY-UM!!

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 26 02:40:17 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 26 02:29:17 2006.

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Does sorta explain why us old timers had such bad attitudes. :)

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 26 05:46:12 2006, in response to Pic: blast from the past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 25 17:47:44 2006.

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Looks like a "dark car" too. Those were my favorites.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 26 05:49:51 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 26 05:46:12 2006.

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Back then, there were so many of them they were actually a welcome sign. meant I could get on at Brighton Beach and SLEEP all the way home to 205th! I *loved* dark cars. :)

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 26 05:59:01 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by Channel 7 Eyewitness News on Tue Jul 25 21:36:14 2006.

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Fascinating it wasn't.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 26 06:10:45 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 26 05:49:51 2006.

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Especially the 42s with AC.

I remember walking into one from another car and realizing the doors were not opening at the stops. I didn't worry just figured I'd walk into the next car at the stop before mine. Weeell I tried to but the end doors were locked. Had to pull the emergency cord to get out. Conductor ask me how I got in there, seems the car was locked out, I told him I walked from the other car. To this day I cannot figure out what happened. This was on an R42 around 1980.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 26 06:45:08 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 26 06:10:45 2006.

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42's were the standard church key on the ends, so my bet is some doors didn't latch properly. It happened. :)

I never worried about any of that though (since I was with the show, I had a church key anyway) and usually those dark cars just HAPPENED to be the lead pair. 205th, 'nuff said. Had to pick up a switchman, and I *knew* I'd get rousted before riding the relay until I flashed my pass. Heh.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jul 26 07:03:29 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by J trainloco on Wed Jul 26 00:44:11 2006.

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lol 14.4

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 26 07:07:34 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jul 26 07:03:29 2006.

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I first got on with a 2400.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jul 26 07:09:13 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 26 00:07:11 2006.

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My parents were overprotective, and wouldn't let me go out on my own. My dad took me places on the train. We didn't call it "railfanning", we just called it "going for train rides". It came to an abrupt halt after the Williamsburg Bridge wreck since my mom got paranoid, but we still took the long way to get to/from places afterwards. But even those ended when my dad left at age 9. I didn't get to ride on my own until I was about 12-13, and I didn't finish the system until I was 15 (my last segment was 95th-59th on the R, which I rode during the Ultimate Ride).

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jul 26 07:10:31 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 25 23:51:29 2006.

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If it was higher up in the 90's, that could also explain things.

I lived on 92nd between Broadway and West End for about a year (recently). It would be funny if we were in the same building!

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 26 07:15:49 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 26 07:07:34 2006.

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Amateurs! Heh.

110 baud was "high speed" with suction cups that you put the phone in (55 baud was "regular") and we were overjoyed that a suction cup jobbie could be had at Rat Shack for $200 when 300 baud came along ... that one was featured in the film "War Games" ...

Ran a multiline BBS back in the early 80's featuring TTY, 20ma loop, 55, 110 and 300. By the mid 80's, we had to add 1200, 2400 *and* 9600 ... hoopy-scoopy! :)

And each of the latter high-speeds had incompatible formats - there was your "HAYES," your "HST," your "COMMODORE" (completely incompatible plus it caused the disk drive to bang its heads to death) and other whackadoodle formats, each requiring an additional phone line and a modem on it to "service the customer."

"Can't get there from here" was a way of life in the early days of the BBS realm, and every time you wanted to connect, it was usually a LONG DISTANCE phone call. And you *PAID* ... :(

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jul 26 07:16:34 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 26 00:00:25 2006.

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Living in Manhattan, we used the bus whenever we could. (I went to school on the East Side, so the bus was the only reasonable option there in any case.)

I didn't do much subway riding until the summer of 1989(?), when my parents signed me up for an SAT prep class in the 50's and I discovered that the subway was much faster than the bus. I became very familiar with the layout of the Columbus Circle station at that time. My first railfan trip was on an A train deep into Brooklyn (I don't remember if I stayed on out to the Rockaways or I got off at Broadway-East New York and came back in on the J). When I got home, there were two cops in my apartment; my parents had apparently gotten a bit nervous about how long it was taking me to get home.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jul 26 07:19:43 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by J trainloco on Wed Jul 26 00:44:11 2006.

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You're young. I had a 2400 bps modem when 1200 was the norm. Then I skipped over 9600 and paid $750 to go straight to 14.4k.

No web. First heard about that sophomore year in college, at which point I spent an hour or two and read the web.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jul 26 07:23:26 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 26 07:15:49 2006.

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For a while, my BBS had an elaborate ANSI closing screen. Took a second or two to draw at a reasonable speed, but I once sat in front of the screen watching someone connect to the BBS long distance at 300 baud. He didn't seem to realize that he could hit the space bar to cut off the graphics. And since it was drilled into everybody's head that disconnecting was rude, he let the entire closing graphic play until I had sympathy on him and hit the space bar.

My 14.4k modem was so expensive because I insisted on the USRobotics HST Dual Standard. A single standard just wouldn't cut it!

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jul 26 07:27:49 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by 5119 on Wed Jul 26 01:47:57 2006.

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Between Riverside and West End on 94th, could well be. I had a friend between West End and Broadway and I don't think that block was bad. (Or maybe he was on 93rd? No, I'm pretty sure it was 94th.)

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jul 26 07:28:52 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 26 06:10:45 2006.

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Was anybody else in the car with you?

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 26 07:40:29 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jul 26 07:23:26 2006.

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[C]hat with SYSOP ... heh. Obviously a Commie board. :)

Yeah, we had some pretty elaborate stuff as well, but we detected ANSI enabled and if they turned that off, straight text "graphics" at them. Ran mine on a TI-99/4A originally (on a dare, nobody wanted to believe it could be done) ... eventually had to get some 8088's to feed the modem pool with QDOS and somethingDESK to "multitask" ... ah the things we take for granted these days ... *AND* speak ill of Al Gore who eliminated the long distance charges and allowed the "great unwashed" to spread "send this to everyone on your mailing list" and calling each other asshats.

Had I only KNOWN what I was getting myself into years ago, I'd go back to calling 900 numbers. Heh.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Wed Jul 26 07:41:02 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jul 26 07:19:43 2006.

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Have you managed to keep up with the whole thing since then?

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 26 07:44:01 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 26 06:10:45 2006.

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no

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 26 07:44:23 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jul 26 07:28:52 2006.

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no

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 26 07:45:35 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jul 26 07:28:52 2006.

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no, not by the time i got to my station, but earlier there were a few that had gone to the next car before thier stops.

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Re: I meant 1986, not 1989 in above post. Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jul 26 08:21:19 2006, in response to Re: I meant 1986, not 1989 in above post. Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 25 22:53:01 2006.

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I still remember clean olive drab R-16s with vertical door pockets and 15 signs. Not to mention clean olive R-27/30s.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jul 26 08:22:03 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jul 25 23:28:00 2006.

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Deferred maintenance being one of them. The system was gutted just to save the 15-cent fare.

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Re: I meant 1986, not 1989 in above post. Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jul 26 08:23:12 2006, in response to Re: I meant 1986, not 1989 in above post. Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by JBar387 on Wed Jul 26 01:38:10 2006.

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Their controllers would short out, their doors wouldn't open (especially when it snowed), etc.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jul 26 08:24:16 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 25 22:48:41 2006.

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That was after you two were married, right?

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jul 26 08:40:39 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 25 21:35:56 2006.

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Some of us are still trying to figure out how the TA managed to acquire that awful pistachio green paint. Probably some paint dealer had a huge surplus and made an offer the TA just couldn't refuse.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jul 26 08:45:06 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by J trainloco on Wed Jul 26 00:24:33 2006.

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During the R-46 truck cracking fiasco, R-10s ran on the E and F lines, strutting their stuff on the Queens express.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Brighton Private on Wed Jul 26 08:49:55 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by mambomta on Tue Jul 25 23:13:22 2006.

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I was being somewhat facetious, and doctors disagree over what the indications are. But it's certainly true that among railfans the incidence is a lot higher than the general population.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Brighton Private on Wed Jul 26 08:52:23 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by J trainloco on Tue Jul 25 23:24:39 2006.

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Asperger's Disorder is a milder variant of Autistic Disorder. Both Asperger's Disorder and Autistic Disorder are in fact subgroups of a larger diagnostic category. This larger category is called either Autistic Spectrum Disorders, mostly in European countries, or Pervasive Developmental Disorders ("PDD"), in the United States. In Asperger's Disorder, affected individuals are characterized by social isolation and eccentric behavior in childhood. There are impairments in two-sided social interaction and non-verbal communication. Though grammatical, their speech is peculiar due to abnormalities of inflection and a repetitive pattern. Clumsiness is prominent both in their articulation and gross motor behavior. They usually have a circumscribed area of interest which usually leaves no space for more age appropriate, common interests. Some examples are cars, trains, French Literature, door knobs, hinges, cappucino, meteorology, astronomy or history. The name "Asperger" comes from Hans Asperger, an Austrian physician who first described the syndrome in 1944. An excellent translation of Dr. Asperger's original paper is provided by Dr. Uta Frith in her Autism and Asperger Syndrome.

From www.aspergers.com.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jul 26 08:55:29 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by mambomta on Tue Jul 25 23:13:22 2006.

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You'd be wrong.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 26 10:09:35 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jul 26 08:55:29 2006.

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You broke subchat.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jul 26 10:27:39 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 26 07:40:29 2006.

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DESQview. We all used it. Alt Alt to switch to the other task.

Most of the boards I called used PCBoard, but I decided to be different and run Searchlight. But I still wanted to run PCBoard-type stuff, so I somehow figured out how to get ProDoor to run with Searchlight, even though it's very much PCBoard-specific. It was awkward, though; eventually I caved and switched to PCBoard.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Jul 26 10:29:23 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by Brighton Private on Wed Jul 26 08:49:55 2006.

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The same could be said of pretty much any hobby.

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Re: Pic: blast from the past

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 26 10:30:27 2006, in response to Re: Pic: blast from the past, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 25 23:39:45 2006.

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Woh's lesdysic? Nto em!

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