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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 18 20:31:55 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 18 20:22:20 2006. Yeah, I have video of the "fight." That's why the "nutcrackers" are so large and heavy when the air won't let it loose. |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train To Return This Summer - consist rumor |
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Posted by Dave on Thu May 18 21:28:23 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train To Return This Summer - consist rumor, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu May 18 18:39:54 2006. The BMT ran Q cars on the Flusing line to the World's Fair in 1939-1940. The BMT had trackage rights over the Astoria and Flushing lines. Because the clearances on those lines were for IRT equipment which BMT subways would not clear, the BMT needed to run their wooden elevated equipment over those lines. The Q cars started as open platform gated coaches in 1903 and 1907. |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 18 22:26:34 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Rail Blue on Thu May 18 18:33:12 2006. They've been wrong before, and they'll be wrong again. |
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Re: (Sympathy for the Crews) Re: TM Nostalgia Train To Return THis Summer |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 22:29:43 2006, in response to Re: (Sympathy for the Crews) Re: TM Nostalgia Train To Return THis Summer, posted by BIE on Thu May 18 14:21:34 2006. MUCH RESPECT & Thanks for that acknowledgement. |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced |
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Posted by SilverFox on Thu May 18 22:36:03 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu May 18 10:14:30 2006. Is that a representative picture? Shit. I didn't think they were THAT far gone. |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 22:42:26 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 18 14:32:07 2006. Heh. The seat on the LOWER RIGHT doesnt even have "molding". It's lil more than a cookie sheet. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 22:46:36 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 18 20:18:38 2006. An after-effect of Malbone, no?? |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 22:50:20 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 18 20:17:48 2006. I *THOUGHT* he meant this pikter but THAT'S NOT THE BUand to my eyes the cars look "inches apart" (and I dont think there was a "coupling" involved herein.... and tis a different photog brah altogether... (LO-v's ran one consist and redbirds followed as the "protection train" remembers??) |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu May 18 22:52:36 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 22:50:20 2006. They WERE coupling that train together. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 18 22:56:21 2006, in response to Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by Howard Fein on Thu May 18 20:04:19 2006. What I'm wondering is, where would such a transfer occur?They stop at a station. They BUs may be uncoupled or they may keep them coupled. But everyone who wants to ride the BUs transfers along the platform. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 23:09:22 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu May 18 22:52:36 2006. Ehhh.. if memory serves me right... the V left GC on it's own power and the Redbirds flew separately... When they came up the IRT, the V was independent, and ran to 137 on it's own... with the REDBIRDS following a signal block behind. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 23:11:47 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 23:09:22 2006. IIRC, when Bloomie piloted the train, the Lo-V consist was solo...unless there was a coupling/de-coupling that occured out of public view, from what I recall, both consists were SEPARATE. Now then.... you were saying the BU was coupled to a Redboid?? SEARCH ON!! :) |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 18 23:25:02 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SilverFox on Thu May 18 22:36:03 2006. They don't have to provide accoutrements for |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 18 23:26:34 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 22:42:26 2006. After standing up by tracks for many hours, I'm sure it's a welcome surface nonetheless. But like I just said, employees don't get a cookie. :( |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 18 23:27:07 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 22:46:36 2006. Attitudes against wooden cars in subway tunnels pre-date Malbone. Most of the composite cars for the IRT were moved to elevated lines before this wreck. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 18 23:35:51 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 22:50:20 2006. Yeah, here's the "jig" in place ...
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 18 23:42:00 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 23:11:47 2006. There's cobbage hanging in the car barn for pretty much every possible variation. :) |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 18 23:50:50 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 22:50:20 2006. I remember that trip. I was able to ride the special Low-V train that Bloomberg operated, thanks to connections I have... 8-)And they didn't couple the two trains together afterward. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 23:58:58 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu May 18 23:50:50 2006. And they didn't couple the two trains together afterward. THANX 4 THAT WORD. (I knew I wasn't smoking steel dust). |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 23:59:39 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 18 23:42:00 2006. yesh...... but with a BU? (we's yet to see PROFF of that 1 ) |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri May 19 00:05:33 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Rail Blue on Thu May 18 18:33:12 2006. As do I, but some of the recent condescension taints it a bit. I'm hearing some bogeyman arguments with questionable evidence to back it up. We part company on them being chronically correct, as well. These so called 'foamers' that they piss on are the same people who plink down 40 bucks for a MOD trip, and who knows how much for various memberships to transit museums. I understand cameraderie between veterans and I sure do appreciate the need to vent, but I think some of the comments made were a bridge too far.Some railfans run trains at museums. Others maintain and rebuild the rolling stock. Others build models and track layouts in their homes. Some enjoy creating fantasy maps of their ideal systems. Others enjoy the pleasure of simply riding on a train. Others enjoy photographing railroads. It's all good, and there's no need to make this like a pissing contest at a fetish convention. your pal, Fred |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 00:32:24 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Ferry on Thu May 18 23:59:39 2006. Don't need to ... BU's used "Van Dorn" couplers, and that cobbage you saw there with the air hose coming right off the adaptor off to the side is "VD cobbage" ... the toy you're looking for IS in the picture there. And in addition to SMEE/VD, there's also AMUE/VD, AMUE/SMEE ... why there's even MCB cobbage ... |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 19 00:58:38 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by BMTLines on Wed May 17 12:50:55 2006. I never got to ride any of the MOD trips, so I guess I'm out of luck now. I willingly passed up on the last one last August, since I didn't want to run away on my mom's birthday. (It's a bit rude to skip the party, right?)I don't really care how long a given fantrip is, but I want a chance to ride old equipment on nonrevenue track. Will any of the upcoming three fantrips do this? Keep in mind, the Sea Beach express track, the West End express track, and the Culver express track(s) count; I don't need to ride on yard trackage, although it would be nice. (Actually, I'd even like a ride on the Concourse express; it runs every rush hour, but w/o a RFW.) Other question: Are there any R11 cars in operable condition for fantrips? I really want to ride one of those. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by monorail on Fri May 19 02:17:09 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 18 23:35:51 2006. ' here's the "jig" in place'I see 2 feet and they don't both look left so could this 'jig' be irish? |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by South Ferry on Fri May 19 02:34:08 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 18 23:35:51 2006. is the southern car a BU? The fella was saying a BU got coupled to a R33 and we's looking for PROFF... The 1 at the Centennial (redbirds and Lo-V) ran separate consists.... |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train To Return This Summer - consist rumor |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 19 02:46:49 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train To Return This Summer - consist rumor, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu May 18 18:39:54 2006. Mike, you've gotta read up on your pre-SMEE subway history!Before 1949, both the Astoria and the Corona/Flushing branches were IRT-sized. The 10' wide BMT subway trains terminated at Queensboro Plaza in the now-demolished north side of the station. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 02:54:40 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by monorail on Fri May 19 02:17:09 2006. Aye, laddie! A twist of the wrist and she's off. :) |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 02:59:27 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Ferry on Fri May 19 02:34:08 2006. I'm going to guess that it is since most of the LoV's had the typical IRT style couplers on them. Since I wasn't the one who took the picture though, can't be certain. However, there IS similar cobbage for each and every type of car and that means that "iron to iron" the Van Dorns can be cobbled to arnines as well as the SMEE's. So can they be coupled up with cobbage? You betcha ... so as far as proff goes, it ain't the coupling in question. It's what was the witness smoking? :) |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 19 03:02:20 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu May 18 20:06:17 2006. Mike,You invoked air brake acronyms so now you are going to receive a correction and probably more info than you wanted! The BU cars are not AMUE. The first giveaway should be the "E". Where do you put the electric brake key on a BU car?! The BUs are brake schedule AML. They use an L2G Triple Valve, not a UE5 Universal Valve. I believe the plan is to couple R1-9 cars to the BUs. This is done using a Van Dorn-to-H2 coupler adapter. The adapter is placed over the H2 head by manually unlocking the dog using the cutting wrench on the H2 head while another person or persons holds the adapter in place, then releasing the wrench locking the adapter in place. The other end of the adapter is a cast Van Dorn link pin. With the adapter in place on the H2 side, the consist is brought together and the link pin slides into the socket in the Van Dorn head. A locking pin drops down to secure it. The adapter has two ports which align with the two tappets on the H2 head. The upper tappet is Main Reservoir and the lower is Brake Pipe. The adapter has a pair of hoses connected to the tappets. These hoses have "gladhands" on the end which mate with the hoses on the BU cars. Once the connections have been made up, the angle cocks are opened on both sides to allow air to flow. Both AMUE and AML have the same "protocol". Main Reservoir air at about 90-100 psi, and Brake Pipe air which is at 70 psi for full release, and 50 psi for full service. This protocol is also compatible with locomotives. SMEE is a different protocol. The top tappet is Straight Air Pipe (0 psi for release, about 85 psi for full service) and the bottom is Brake Pipe (110 psi normally, 0 for BIE). You can not mix SMEE with "automatic" air such as AMUE or AML. Any such moves must be done with the angle cocks closed and the two air systems isolated from each other, which means there is no trainline control of the brakes. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by South Ferry on Fri May 19 03:02:30 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 02:59:27 2006. Heh... I still don't recall a R33 and BU getting hooked up.... unlessit was 1575 mistaken for a IRT stock... ?? |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 19 03:04:38 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 18 20:22:20 2006. Chris,Do you mean that trip in the summer of 2004, when the train was being cut in the little yard at Rock Park? |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 19 03:10:18 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 02:59:27 2006. Lo-Vs never had Van Dorn couplers. Most of the Hi-Vs weredelivered that way. Starting in 1912, type "J" automatic tightlock couplers were installed. The difference between a "J" and an "H" head is very subtle. On an H head the tappets are on a 45 degree angle (more or less) but on the J they are at a right angle. This meant that if one accidentally coupled a J to an H, great difficulty would be encountered in getting the two things to ever come apart again! When the Lo-Vs were converted to work service, most of them (including the museum train) were modified. The tappet valve assembly was replaced with one from an H head, allowing these cars to couple to IND and BMT stock. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 03:10:41 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Ferry on Fri May 19 03:02:30 2006. As Jeff just pointed out, they'd have to be pulled as "dead weight" with the brakes isolated. Dunno if the Teeyay would do it "Branford style" like the frequent "LoArnine" config using radio between two operators to "make it work" ... but if nobody were on them, I could see the BU's being hauled with careful braking "up front."All I'm saying though is that as far as coupling 'em up is concerned, THAT can be done and there is cobbage for it. Back in the "bad old days" you actually did your cobbage with work cars that had different couplers on each end and they were marked so ... "MCB," "H2," "VD" ... if you rummage amongst the old "work train" pictures at Unca Dave's place, those stencilled letters on the work motors will suddenly make sense. Nowadays, they've got them neat "cobs" to eliminate an entire car length. :) |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by South Ferry on Fri May 19 03:16:30 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 03:10:41 2006. OK. CLEAR. It CAN be done. Some of us are still looking for PROFF that it --WAS-- done (as in "in recent years") NO DEBATING it can be done.... just WHEN was it done cuz I sure dont recall the BU even being --NEAR-- GC... |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 03:33:22 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 19 03:10:18 2006. I was trying to remember, back when I worked there the LoV's in the yards all had what looked like "H2A" types, but that's all a fuzzy memory to me now. I remember VD's on the Q cars that were still around after the Myrt closed, MCB's for some of the "freight stuff" like flats and tankers, H2A, H2B and H2C and there was something else too that I remember stenciled on the LoV's. By the time I came on the property, the LoV's had long been out of revenue so I was never really sure of which couplers were the originals. :)So looks like them was BU's then in that picture I linked to. But them cast cobbages are quite interesting compared to how it was done in the old days. Needed to pull a Q car, you had to put a pair of LoV's between you and them. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 03:35:15 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by South Ferry on Fri May 19 03:16:30 2006. Heh. I can only argue what I know or saw for myself ... :) |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 19 05:05:06 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu May 18 11:13:26 2006. yup |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 19 05:08:30 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 18 10:55:20 2006. Your behavior here and observation of you on fan trips is enough to convince me that I have no desire to ever associate with you.But hey! Don't worry, that applies to many here. |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 19 05:09:07 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by mambomta on Thu May 18 10:52:30 2006. Spoken like a true parrot. |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 06:45:34 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Fred G on Fri May 19 00:05:33 2006. Apologies if I come off a bit "gruff" but you're right about the attitudes of folks who have pounded rails for a living (and we also run trains at museums, try to help out when and where we can, have model trains and are avid "foamers" ourselves - that's WHY I worked for transit) and some of our attitudes as expressed, but there ARE reasons for it and in my own situation, felt that it could be helpful trying to explain *WHY* that is even if it might have come off all wrong ...YOU are a rather reasonable person, thus I'll try to explain this as well. Most important situation is that a LOT of comments were made as the strike was about to come down while I was trying to imbue my own personal "expertise" to TWU folks as to what would come down (and every prediction proved accurate as TWU's leadership didn't listen) and "foamers" made themselves a LOT of enemies among the folks who run their "precious trains" as a result of the nonsense posted here prior to the "illegal transit strike." A question was asked about the MOD trips and I (hopefully) merely provided an explanation as to WHY they ain't gonna happen again. I had no part in what happened, what ramifactions occurred as a result of what happened - my purpose was merely to explain *WHAT* happened and frankly, I have no obligation to provide evidence - all I have in my own personal possession is a couple of scenes of videotape of some folks walking around on the trackbed at "lower Chambers" which was referred to by other people I know as an absolute "the WIGS saw this and they freaked" provided by a friend of mine as a favor since I was unable to attend. As I indicated in my post, had a friend who works for MTA who dropped by with a tape and showed me a few OTHER things that can only be chalked up to "what were these people THINKING?" which further convinced management that the MOD trips were a downside with no upside. I merely pointed out what had been indicated to me since I'd said to this person, "I *hope* I can get down there next year and ride them. And I got told WHY that wasn't going to happen in all its gory detail. I suppose what I should take away from this is that I just shouldn't have said anything and let it remain a mystery. As to "foamers and railroads" the reality is that people trespass, they use flash cameras in front of motorpeople trying to spot the ten car marker and do a lot of annoying things ... witness the behavior of some folks here and in O/T towards each other as well as some comments directed at me over a few things I discussed only to get sassed. Now transfer that behavior to the mindset of folks who just want to do their four trips and go home in peace. There's LOTS of us out here and there who LOVE our trains ... and there's life support for sphincters among the crowd as well. I genuinely don't mean to come off as "condescending" however, I *do* have BOTH sides of the coin as experience and thus thought that pointing out WHY things are as they are, they might offer some perspective that folks may or may not have as to WHY the "friction" between rail folks and hobbyists exist in the hopes that by understanding what the "other side's malfunction" is, perhaps some wisdom might ensue. But my intent was never to denigrate, and I'm kinda too old to care what people think about me anymore. But 9/11, the "illegal transit strike" and the extremely bad behavior of a few have REALLY rotted the fruit in the past year or so for people who RUN the trains and those who "observe" them ... and it JUST doesn't NEED to be like that. :( I wasn't there on the MOD trips. But I *saw* some videotape that I do NOT have copies of, along with one incident I *do* have a copy of (and photos WERE posted here on this very board of the "unlawful trackwalk at Chambers") ... I asked others with knowledge to witness their own testimony and that didn't happen, so I'll gladly put my tail between my legs and whine away from what I said since there's no "corroboration." But that was what I was told by several whose names I won't repeat who were DIRECTLY involved in it all. And THAT is another problem which has caused the attitude of many crews - the posting of NAMES of people with the MTA, specific car numbers associated with "misconduct" and interval times so that MTA (which possesses *NO* sense of humor) could pinpoint the "guilty parties" and give them the high hard one. Folks gotta realize that MTA is a VENGEFUL bunch of phucks and any TIME you mention specifics, someone gets the paddle there. It's a VERY sensitive thing to those of us who have worked there, even MORE so to those who still do. I'm not out to pick on ANYONE, but it DOES seem as though a large number of people do not realize that real people get hurt when chit flies here, and the MTA is REALLY an evil bunch of bastards just WAITING to rip the wings off flies ... it really IS like that there. And I thought it was bad when *I* was there - imagine having your paycheck yanked because it ain't straight for two weeks and the reason WHY it wasn't straight is that you rescued a baby carriage caught in a door on a redbird. Yep, that's happened too ... My whole purpose though in all I said was to explain WHY the MTA punished those who did good things and what their excuse for doing it was ... hope we're still friends, buddy ... I know YOU are not an arsole ... but there's plenty of OTHERS willing to step up to the plate ever doodah day ... hell, look at the childishness of just the messages from several of the perps back and forth right here. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 07:01:59 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 06:45:34 2006. Correction ... I said:imagine having your paycheck yanked because it ain't straight for two weeks and the reason WHY it wasn't straight is that you rescued a baby carriage caught in a door on a redbird. Yep, that's happened too ... I SHOULD have said ... ... imagine having your paycheck yanked because your TIE ain't straight for two weeks and the reason WHY it wasn't straight is that you rescued a baby carriage caught in a door on a redbird. Yep, that's happened too ... Two weeks on the street because your TIE is off-kilter after saving a baby? Yep, such is the pettiness of the MTA ... *YOUR* "guests" walking the roadbed? Relieving yourself in front of others in car 484? That's a WHOLE lot worse than not having your TIE straight. And so goes the Empty-yay. :( |
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Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 19 07:11:55 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 06:45:34 2006. Everyone knows about City Hall LL. That's not news.As to "foamers and railroads" the reality is that people trespass, they use flash cameras in front of motorpeople trying to spot the ten car marker and do a lot of annoying things No, trespassing is NOT the norm, and very few railfans use flash photography. I remember only the NON-RAILFANS on the MOD trips using the flash because they didn't know any better. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 19 07:20:54 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 19 05:08:30 2006. You've never observed me on fan trips. Unless you post the specific details of my behavior, it's clear that you are lying, just like RonIsBS. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 19 07:21:42 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 19 07:11:55 2006. City Hall it was then ... that ONE episode was a major killer as far as the wigs went ... the "big one." :(And let's agree to disagree that crews, management, or the police can tell the difference between "hobbyists with respect," "tourists" or "terrorists" as far as that "flashy thing" goes ... doesn't matter if you're temporarily blinded by WHOEVER ... it's something crews do not like no matter WHO does it - thus the "proposed photo ban." I'm not judging "hobbyists," merely trying to explain WHY the attitudes. Same for "trespassing" ... ANYONE does it, they ALL did it as far as the wigs are concerned. But the "coup de grace" was "the cursing photographer" on a FEW of those events ... and their DOING it in front of a child whose DAD was an MTA board member ... well, that was just the icing on the cake. :( Just so's we understand each other ... personally, I don't care. I couldn't afford to get to the city to do any of those - I really would have LOVED to. Issue of MOD trips came up and there were questions about the next one, all I did was explain WHY there won't be anymore. Paturkey appointed the morons who make policy. In NOVEMBER there are elections coming - choose wisely. MAYBE we'll get some replacement wiglets appointed to the Empty-yay with a little less "rectal-cranial intercession." :) MTA *watches* the various "boards" and the behavior of people ON them. Not just here, strappies and others. Until the "collective behavior of foamers" shows a new direction, their minds are made up and they REVEL in printing out more "PROFF" of WHY you don't want "these people" on the trains. Someone else here offered a perspective too - that once upon a time, "special trips" solicited people who showed up in "suit and tie," "respectful of the equipment AND their sponsors," and behaved like civilized people. It is precisely THAT difference that made the impression to the republicans who run the MTA ... "WHY are we lactating for the great unwashed?" :( |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 19 07:29:02 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 18 22:26:34 2006. Yes, and of course, you're NEVER wrong. |
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Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 19 08:00:39 2006, in response to Re: Question re: BUs and R1-9s on same consist, posted by Jeff H. on Fri May 19 03:10:18 2006. I presume 5466 also received that modification. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri May 19 08:00:43 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 19 07:20:54 2006. Oh yes I have and no I won't.I don't have to prove anything to the likes of you. Don't be so quick to call people liars |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 19 08:11:28 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train To Return This Summer - consist rumor, posted by Dave on Thu May 18 21:28:23 2006. The BMT felt it would be unwise to newly design a car that could only be used on certain lines, so the next best thing was done. Voila - the Q cars! Too bad their Peckham trucks weren't retained. I understand they were speed demons on the Flushing line. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 19 08:13:39 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train To Return This Summer - consist rumor, posted by TeaBiscuit18thAveDude on Thu May 18 16:36:52 2006. The Mets still use orange and blue, but now they've added black. To me, they're still orange and blue. All of my Mets caps are that way - royal blue with an orange NY. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 19 08:24:10 2006, in response to Re: TM Nostalgia Train - Destinations announced, posted by Nilet on Fri May 19 00:58:38 2006. There is only one surviving R-11 - the one at the museum. Don't know if it runs.I've ridden on all the express tracks you mentioned - on revenue trains. |
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