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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 30 22:05:36 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 30 21:43:46 2006. I think that they were talking about the tubes portion. I think that it had to do with track switching, but I'm not positive. Next time I'm there I'll ride it to see for myself. |
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Posted by shadyelstation on Sun Apr 30 22:43:39 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by kawasakir142 on Sun Apr 30 20:47:14 2006. 4th Ave Express is faster N/B than S/B.While there are 30 MPH G/T's in both directions, N/B timers begin after passing Union St (and that's after a long decline beginning north of Prospect Ave), so you'll get some speed there (especially if you're riding an R40 Slant). S/B timers begin before passing 25 St, so the S/B run is comparatively slower. |
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Posted by #3 West End Jeff on Mon May 1 01:01:09 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 30 01:17:10 2006. Is the Queeens IND express still one of the fastest runs? I rode it once in 1993 on a train of R-46s (F line) and it went pretty damn fast.#3 West End Jeff |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon May 1 01:14:42 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 30 22:05:36 2006. Well, I like PATH - not only does it bounce around a lot, the underground tubes have a mine-train feel when one looks out of the railfan window. Must be all them twists n' turns! :-) |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon May 1 01:16:18 2006, in response to Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Subway Camper on Sun Apr 30 01:07:10 2006. Why not try the Cyclone on Coney Island? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon May 1 01:59:49 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by JPC on Sun Apr 30 20:22:12 2006. I don't think so. Probably because it slows down as it pulls up at Roosevelt Island. That tunnel seems more level then the 60th St one. The N one is a longer run. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon May 1 07:34:54 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Apr 30 19:22:34 2006. I especially like that little snap sway at the bottom of the Cranberry tube that makes it seem as if the track alignement could have been done better. I thought when welded rail was installed it would have been eliminated, but it is still there.avid |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 1 08:14:21 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Apr 30 19:22:34 2006. I wonder if the Hillside express stretch is still fast if an E from 179th is running express. |
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Posted by #3 West End Jeff on Mon May 1 08:29:09 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 1 08:14:21 2006. I once rode an "F" train consisting of R-46s on the Queens IND express in 1993 and the train went pretty fast at the time.#3 West End Jeff |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Mon May 1 12:49:14 2006, in response to Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Subway Camper on Sun Apr 30 01:07:10 2006. With all the long-running weekend GOs, a lot of fast express runs aren't available. There's no West Side express downtown between 96th and 42nd, or in either direction below 14th. Likewise, the East Side is all local below 42nd, and the Joralemon tube- one of the fastest- is closed. As others have mentioned, there's no C next weekend which eliminates many fast A express runs.So what's left? The 2 and 3 express uptown 42-96. The 5 express in either direction 42-125. That the 4 is running local in that stretch should make for a clearer express track. The E and F express in Queens. The R32s often exceed 40 inbound west of 65th and eastbound coming into Continental. Unfortunately, there are many weekends in which one service or the other runs local in one direction or the other for all or part of the segment between Queens Plaza and Forest Hills. This usually goes unmentioned on the cumulative weekend GO advisories. If you're looking for short, fast runs between local stations, there's the 1 between 145-Dyckman; 6 between 51-125 (may be hampered by having to share trackage with the 4); F below 34 in Manhattan and most underground portions in Brooklyn; G through most of Crosstown route; L between Jefferson-Wilson. And if you get to Jersey, the much-maligned HBLR does have a couple of good stretches: On the Tonnelle branch between 9th and Port Imperial, and the Bayonne branch between Danforth and 45th. Good luck! |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 1 12:53:11 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Sun Apr 30 12:59:16 2006. $40 to get into Six Flags? Maybe in 1994... |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 1 13:00:16 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon May 1 01:14:42 2006. Yes. The Harrison ↔ JSQ stretch is pretty fast and enjoyable, though the lower speed limit approaching Journal Square eastbound dulls it slightly. On my last trip westbound, the train encountered a lowered smashboard before a drawbridge, so we had to wait before getting the all clear. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 1 13:09:43 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by JPC on Sun Apr 30 20:22:12 2006. Not really. Speeds in that tunnel are generally slow, but the stop at Roosevelt Island doesn't help, either.If you want speed through the 60th Street tunnel, use the N. The R has to slow down for the switch before the portal, but the N goes straight through. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 1 13:27:04 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by #3 West End Jeff on Mon May 1 08:29:09 2006. Of course, back then they still had full field shunting. |
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Posted by tydev417 on Mon May 1 14:09:24 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Sun Apr 30 17:16:23 2006. ACtually I was kind of serious but I forgot that he was going on the weekend. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon May 1 18:10:53 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 30 01:17:10 2006. You missed a few:5 trains only between 138/GC and 149th/Lower level L between Graham Ave and Grand Street 6 train on non-revenue service move at Brooklyn Bridge, from southbound to northbound platforms. These are better. :-) |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Mon May 1 19:36:35 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Apr 30 19:22:34 2006. Speaking of East River tubes:The Joralemon Street tunnels (4,5) get pretty darn fast. I forgot: Are there still R62s running on the 4, to allow Camper to get a non-polarized glimpse out of the front, as well as a glimpse of the speedometer? --Julian |
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Posted by Subway Camper on Mon May 1 21:24:15 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Howard Fein on Mon May 1 12:49:14 2006. Thank you! |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Mon May 1 23:53:09 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Subway Camper on Mon May 1 21:24:15 2006. And for more short, fast local runs, try the 3 train along the Livonia El, more specifically from Crown Heights-Utica Avenue to New Lots Avenue, preferably heading northbound, but southbound is good too. |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Mon May 1 23:55:53 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Subterranean Railway on Mon May 1 19:36:35 2006. Yes, and whenever I go out of the way traveling along the 4, I seem to always see the R62 sets it still has, which I've ridden a few times recently, but don't think you'll see it 100% either. |
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Posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Tue May 2 00:29:11 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon May 1 12:53:11 2006. Online at http://www.sixflagsticketing.com/Tickets.aspx$39.99 for "One-day admission ticket to Six Flags Great Adventure valid during the 2006 season. Savings of $20 off the front gate price!" I had no idea of the current price, so I checked it before I posted originally. I suppose I should have said that the MTA could charge $60 to ride the subway (a one-day unlimited "Fun Pass") with a discount to $40 if you buy your MetroCard online. ;) |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Tue May 2 08:18:59 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by David of Broadway on Sun Apr 30 01:17:10 2006. Add this:F between Jay and Bergen, s/b. |
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Posted by Green over Green on Tue May 2 21:55:57 2006, in response to Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Subway Camper on Sun Apr 30 01:07:10 2006. The fastest run in the subway is that of the idiot who bounds down the stairway, knocking everyone out of his way, in a frantic effort to catch the train that has just left the station. |
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Posted by thedarkliberator on Tue May 2 22:36:07 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway(Try the LIRR), posted by Bernie Goetz on Sun Apr 30 16:00:41 2006. Take the Red Line (New Haven) to stamford... speeds of up to 90 mph, along with great photo opportunities of Amtrak... furthermore if you go to South Norwalk you can connect to the Danbury shutle, which sometimes runs FL9s and take it to Danbury there you can visit the Danbury Rail Museum and see an FL9 up close and many other very cool things. |
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Posted by thedarkliberator on Tue May 2 22:36:33 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway(Try the LIRR), posted by thedarkliberator on Tue May 2 22:36:07 2006. Thats Metro North out of Grand Central btw. |
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Posted by thedarkliberator on Tue May 2 22:37:43 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by toro-papa on Sun Apr 30 20:40:29 2006. IAWTP, The Dash (W4 to 34) is the best express on the B Division with the 7th ave express being the best on the A Division. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue May 2 22:42:41 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by thedarkliberator on Tue May 2 22:37:43 2006. 7th Ave express was good with Redbirds. I'd say the Flushing is now best on A Division hands down.The Queens Boulevard and Brighton Expresses, especailly the latter, are also among the best if not better than the 6th Avenue Dash in B Division. |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue May 2 22:55:12 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by thedarkliberator on Tue May 2 22:37:43 2006. What are you crazy? The Broadway (J) express Manhattan-bound, the Brighton express northbound, and the Queens Blvd express all pwn the 6th Avenue dash. You might be right about 7th Avenue, though. |
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Posted by #3 West End Jeff on Wed May 3 01:25:26 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon May 1 13:27:04 2006. That is until after the Williamsburg Bridge accident on June 5, 1995. Then they slowed down ALL of the subway cars.#3 West End Jeff |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed May 3 17:44:19 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway(Try the LIRR), posted by thedarkliberator on Tue May 2 22:36:07 2006. "Red Line"? |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 3 18:33:00 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway(Try the LIRR), posted by The Port of Authority on Wed May 3 17:44:19 2006. Yeah, you didn't know? First stop after New Haven is Braintree.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 3 18:46:47 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway(Try the LIRR), posted by thedarkliberator on Tue May 2 22:36:07 2006. Bah, it only goes 90 for a very short time. |
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Posted by MNRR PA OPERATOR on Wed May 3 21:00:13 2006, in response to Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Subway Camper on Sun Apr 30 01:07:10 2006. the only way to get a good stretch of speed between 59th and lexington avenue and queens plaza or queensboro plaza is to have a good consist, and a MOTORMAN, and not a TRAIN OPERATOR. if u want any good stretches in the railroad, there is Jamaica to NYpenn or NY penn to Jamaica. get a good Railfan window on a M1/M3, and ur MAS(MAXIMUM AUTHORIZED SPEED) is 80mph. on the atlantic branch, u can hit 70 under the tubes before east NY. Metro North has 60mph on track one or 2 in the park avenue tubes. track 4 and 3 have 45mph restrictions. in the bronx on the harlem and New Haven, u may hit 80 between the curve north of the melrose station until before Fordham. Also on the hudson line, after spuyten duyvil until south of tarrytown, u may do 75, except the yonkers curve reducing to 50.THIS IS WHY I AM GLAD I WORK FOR THE RAILROAD. A PLACE WHERE OPERATING BELOW TIMETABLE SPEEDS ARE DECERTIFIABLE OFFENSES. WHICH MEANS IF MAS IS 90, U BETTER BE DOIN 89-90! LOL, none of that hittin the brakin early that sometimes happens in NYCT! dont get me wrong i have had some extreme Motormen and Motorwomen on my F train commutes from the misses place on them overnight jobs in grand central! |
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Posted by tracksionmotor on Fri May 5 20:20:54 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by MNRR PA OPERATOR on Wed May 3 21:00:13 2006. Nice post! M7 ATC 20/30/50/80 mph. RRCI Peter |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri May 5 23:45:18 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by MNRR PA OPERATOR on Wed May 3 21:00:13 2006. Going from Grand Central to 59 N/B is the Best Bet for good speed, S/B Its 35 Mph going into 59 Street and they have had radar guns out there in the past. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat May 6 03:23:43 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon May 1 13:09:43 2006. I went through that tunnel on my last trip and kept an eye on the spedometer. We reached 55, on an R32 on the R train. Does a slant N go faster? Or just fast for longer? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat May 6 10:01:55 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by SMAZ on Mon May 1 01:59:49 2006. The 63rd St. tunnel is more level than the 60th St. tunnel. If I had to speculate, it's probably because the 63rd St. line itself is much deeper to begin with; hence it doesn't need to dive down to get beneath the riverbed. |
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Posted by L Train on Sat May 6 15:56:08 2006, in response to Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Subway Camper on Sun Apr 30 01:07:10 2006. 172nd-42nd 2/3236st-Pacific Street D/N 3Roosevelt Avenue-Queens Plaza/21st-Queensbridge E/F 4Myrtle Avenue-Marcy Avenue J/Z 561st-Junction Blvd <7> |
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Posted by murray1575 on Sat May 6 19:21:10 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by L Train on Sat May 6 15:56:08 2006. This has certainly been an interesting thread. I would agree that the 2/3 from 72nd to Times Square is an interesting and fast run (watch for the reverse curve at 59th St)-this is still running on old style ballasted track unlike the local tracks. The 7 from 61St to Junction Blvd is a fast one but running outdoors doesn't seem as fast as in a tunnel. I've taken the E/F from Roosevelt - Queens Plaza too but with the newer trains it doesn't seem as much fun as it was with the R1-9 cars. However if you are really into fast trains the subway has its limits. You will want to try out the commuter lines (LIRR and MNCR). If you really want a fast train take Amtrak NYP - 30th St. in Philadelphia. Even the regular trains exceed 100 MPH most of the way across New Jersey. I wish I could have had the chance to ride behind a GG1. Amtrak can't go as fast in Connecticut (west of New Haven) because it shares tracks owned by MNCR. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 7 00:22:25 2006, in response to Re: Fastest Runs in the Subway, posted by Nilet on Sat May 6 03:23:43 2006. They say it reaches a higher top speed. |
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